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Honky tonk women is great on this one. Listen to that intro. Fantastic.

One of my all time favourites!
Have it on vinyl since 1981 or so and later the double CD (Swingin' Pig). Great sound, Perfect show.
Only the encore Streetfighting Man (a rarity in 1978) is incomplete (from memory).

YEAH ... Great cover.... GREAT show ...Great boot... played it ta death



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I have 'GARDEN STATE 78' - 2 LP version since 1980 - Indeed a fantastic boot. A great cover and one of the best raw Stones recordings ever. Agree Redhotcarpet the intro to HTW is perhaps the second best drum sound ever scratched into black vinyl. The first being the official studio release LOL!. One of the best Stones live boots ever.

Absolutely. I recall vividly when that boot came out in NYC. The first of the 78 discs. they came fast and furious after that one.
RedHot calls it on HTW. Fantastic intro. It's a groove distilled down to the rawest. What is also so great is the spin Ronnie puts on it, when the lick finally comes in to start the song proper.

I have trouble listening to the SP cd, but I hear Garden State is much better sound-wise?

Interesting - I pulled out my copy of 'GARDEN STATE 78' the cover is exactly the same as presented courtesy ofdbboots.com [www.dbboots.com]

On inspecting the labels mine is not the Yellow Smilin Dork- but a black label , with a dancing Skeleton and labelled Slipped Disc Records' with the same matrix 3857a/b/c/d - very crudely scratched into the vinyl. I do remember getting it at what seemed very soon after the show and before 1980.So perhaps one of the labels is a rerun but which is the original ? any help appreciated in establishing which came first.

As for the sound, not played the vinyl in years [no deck] but I remember it as being awesome. I also have the TSP cd - I need to reinvest in a new deck and rediscover my Vinyl Boots gathering dust in the attic.

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Absolutely. I recall vividly when that boot came out in NYC. The first of the 78 discs. they came fast and furious after that one.
RedHot calls it on HTW. Fantastic intro. It's a groove distilled down to the rawest. What is also so great is the spin Ronnie puts on it, when the lick finally comes in to start the song proper.

Exactly, has to be one of the best.

Older songs like HTW, ADTL, JJF, BS and Star Star sounded fantastic on the 1978 tour.



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Agree Dandy they were played with an edge to them,and perhaps they where.I think tryin to show Punk Movement we are the original garage band. loved the stripped down tours of 78' and No Security 99'



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Garden State, along with Handsome Girls, Cirkus Stockholm 2003 and Brusselles Affair the best ever boot! Shattered is FUN!!! And the 4 intro songs as usual in '78, GROOVY!!

You're a rag trade girl, You're the queen of porn, You're the easiest lay on the white house lawn!!

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Garden State, along with Handsome Girls, Cirkus Stockholm 2003 and Brusselles Affair the best ever boot! Shattered is FUN!!! And the 4 intro songs as usual in '78, GROOVY!!

Is Garden State on par sound-wise with Handsome Girls? If so, it's lightyears better than the Swinging Pig Out On Bail-release..

I better get that Garden State-vinyl anyway.

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Is Garden State on par sound-wise with Handsome Girls? If so, it's lightyears better than the Swinging Pig Out On Bail-release..

I better get that Garden State-vinyl anyway.

I think that Garden State 78 on Smilin Dork vinyl is the vinyl equivalent of the HG Box. If you prefer vinyl's sound, then Garden State is the best, period. If you prefer the convenience of digital, the HG Box is quite nice.

The pure, raw, unadulterated sound from the Passaic Capital Theater show was matched only rarely in 78. One other vinyl boot I love from that tour is Hot Flashes Kool Licks from Memphis & Lexington shows. Hound Dog is a charm, Sweet Little Sixteen is smokin' hot, and the Tumbling Dice (as I recall) simply shoots the lights out.

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Kick me like you did before
I can't even feel the pain no more
Rocks Off, 1972

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Is Garden State on par sound-wise with Handsome Girls? If so, it's lightyears better than the Swinging Pig Out On Bail-release..

I better get that Garden State-vinyl anyway.

I think that Garden State 78 on Smilin Dork vinyl is the vinyl equivalent of the HG Box. If you prefer vinyl's sound, then Garden State is the best, period. If you prefer the convenience of digital, the HG Box is quite nice.

The pure, raw, unadulterated sound from the Passaic Capital Theater show was matched only rarely in 78. One other vinyl boot I love from that tour is Hot Flashes Kool Licks from Memphis & Lexington shows. Hound Dog is a charm, Sweet Little Sixteen is smokin' hot, and the Tumbling Dice (as I recall) simply shoots the lights out.

I have Handsome Girls Set (Swinging Pig) on CD, and it sounds amazing, simply because it's a true stereo soundboard, mixed for radio play.

Out On Bail is trebly, very light on bass and unbalanced. It doesn't sound like even a dry soundboard. It's painful to listen to.

What I wondered was whether Garden State (vinyl or/and cd) is a soundboard recording of the Passaic show, which is mixed and sounds as good as Handsome Girls. Many say so, but I haven't come across something from this show of that superb quality.

I will keep looking, mind you

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Is Garden State on par sound-wise with Handsome Girls? If so, it's lightyears better than the Swinging Pig Out On Bail-release..

I better get that Garden State-vinyl anyway.

I think that Garden State 78 on Smilin Dork vinyl is the vinyl equivalent of the HG Box. If you prefer vinyl's sound, then Garden State is the best, period. If you prefer the convenience of digital, the HG Box is quite nice.

The pure, raw, unadulterated sound from the Passaic Capital Theater show was matched only rarely in 78. One other vinyl boot I love from that tour is Hot Flashes Kool Licks from Detroit, Houston & Memphis shows. Hound Dog is a charm, Sweet Little Sixteen is smokin' hot, and the Tumbling Dice (as I recall from Masonic Temple) simply shoots the lights out.

I have Handsome Girls Set (Swinging Pig) on CD, and it sounds amazing, simply because it's a true stereo soundboard, mixed for radio play.

Out On Bail is trebly, very light on bass and unbalanced. It doesn't sound like even a dry soundboard. It's painful to listen to.

What I wondered was whether Garden State (vinyl or/and cd) is a soundboard recording of the Passaic show, which is mixed and sounds as good as Handsome Girls. Many say so, but I haven't come across something from this show of that superb quality.

I will keep looking, mind you

Right! Gotcha!

As I was told long ago, Garden State 78 came from a Stones-crew member's hot-fingering the band's own soundboard recording of the Passaic gig. Thus, it is entirely raw and perhaps only rudimentarily mixed, whereas the HG Box is from the King Biscuit Reels which, when not "no-noised" to death, are state of the art.

Dande, I urge you to find Hot Flashes Kool Licks, which is a lot of the stuff from the Biscuit reels, but on vinyl as opposed to digital. Same great performances and mixes, but analog as opposed to digital.



stonesstein

Kick me like you did before
I can't even feel the pain no more
Rocks Off, 1972



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Garden State vinyl-rip can be found here:
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Is Garden State on par sound-wise with Handsome Girls? If so, it's lightyears better than the Swinging Pig Out On Bail-release..

I better get that Garden State-vinyl anyway.

I think that Garden State 78 on Smilin Dork vinyl is the vinyl equivalent of the HG Box. If you prefer vinyl's sound, then Garden State is the best, period. If you prefer the convenience of digital, the HG Box is quite nice.

The pure, raw, unadulterated sound from the Passaic Capital Theater show was matched only rarely in 78. One other vinyl boot I love from that tour is Hot Flashes Kool Licks from Detroit, Houston & Memphis shows. Hound Dog is a charm, Sweet Little Sixteen is smokin' hot, and the Tumbling Dice (as I recall from Masonic Temple) simply shoots the lights out.

I have Handsome Girls Set (Swinging Pig) on CD, and it sounds amazing, simply because it's a true stereo soundboard, mixed for radio play.

Out On Bail is trebly, very light on bass and unbalanced. It doesn't sound like even a dry soundboard. It's painful to listen to.

What I wondered was whether Garden State (vinyl or/and cd) is a soundboard recording of the Passaic show, which is mixed and sounds as good as Handsome Girls. Many say so, but I haven't come across something from this show of that superb quality.

I will keep looking, mind you

Right! Gotcha!

As I was told long ago, Garden State 78 came from a Stones-crew member's hot-fingering the band's own soundboard recording of the Passaic gig. Thus, it is entirely raw and perhaps only rudimentarily mixed, whereas the HG Box is from the King Biscuit Reels which, when not "no-noised" to death, are state of the art.

Dande, I urge you to find Hot Flashes Kool Licks, which is a lot of the stuff from the Biscuit reels, but on vinyl as opposed to digital. Same great performances and mixes, but analog as opposed to digital.

Thanks

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Is Garden State on par sound-wise with Handsome Girls? If so, it's lightyears better than the Swinging Pig Out On Bail-release..

I better get that Garden State-vinyl anyway.

I think that Garden State 78 on Smilin Dork vinyl is the vinyl equivalent of the HG Box. If you prefer vinyl's sound, then Garden State is the best, period. If you prefer the convenience of digital, the HG Box is quite nice.

The pure, raw, unadulterated sound from the Passaic Capital Theater show was matched only rarely in 78. One other vinyl boot I love from that tour is Hot Flashes Kool Licks from Detroit, Houston & Memphis shows. Hound Dog is a charm, Sweet Little Sixteen is smokin' hot, and the Tumbling Dice (as I recall from Masonic Temple) simply shoots the lights out.

I have Handsome Girls Set (Swinging Pig) on CD, and it sounds amazing, simply because it's a true stereo soundboard, mixed for radio play.

Out On Bail is trebly, very light on bass and unbalanced. It doesn't sound like even a dry soundboard. It's painful to listen to.

What I wondered was whether Garden State (vinyl or/and cd) is a soundboard recording of the Passaic show, which is mixed and sounds as good as Handsome Girls. Many say so, but I haven't come across something from this show of that superb quality.

I will keep looking, mind you

Right! Gotcha!

As I was told long ago, Garden State 78 came from a Stones-crew member's hot-fingering the band's own soundboard recording of the Passaic gig. Thus, it is entirely raw and perhaps only rudimentarily mixed, whereas the HG Box is from the King Biscuit Reels which, when not "no-noised" to death, are state of the art.

Dande, I urge you to find Hot Flashes Kool Licks, which is a lot of the stuff from the Biscuit reels, but on vinyl as opposed to digital. Same great performances and mixes, but analog as opposed to digital.

Thanks

Hot Flashes was one of my first vinyl boots. As much as I love the cover art work I would recommend the old vinyl 2LP LACERATED as better choice. It was pricier at the time but has an excellent stereo sound. Hot Flashes is excellent mono and plays a little too slow (as far as I remember).

Tom

Dandy, I can't remember the differences in sound on the original boots too well. OOB was the first, but then Lacerated, Garden State, and Southern Quotations appeared; later Anaheim. But mainly while the tour was in swing, all we were focused on was where we could catch another gig. Today we have the tour all mapped out. But those dates were just dropping in; and nobody knew what the were going to do. I saw the Palladium show by the at last second.Coming back from Philly.

I really liked that they kept "Love in Vain" in their fast & furious setlist.

Street Fighting Man is hilarious. It starts out more like When The Whip Comes Down, morphs into Jumpin' Jack Flash (which is funny seeing that they're basically the same song) and then somehow becomes Street Fighting Man.

Love Faraway Eyes on this one....perfect!

When OOB first came out Hot Wacks described the quality as "Excellent stereo....it'll blow ya socks off".

The reality is that it's a sbd mix heavy on vocals and drums but light on guitars making it sound very unbalanced.
The yellow/orange vinyl 45 which came with it had SLS on it from the same show and a poor audience recording of Satisfaction from another date if I remember correctly.

I have the TSP Out On Bail double CD
Which CD version should I be searching for to have a better sound ?

A vinyl rip? Several circulate online, Doc.

Wow. Mick is just killing it!

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When OOB first came out Hot Wacks described the quality as "Excellent stereo....it'll blow ya socks off".

The reality is that it's a sbd mix heavy on vocals and drums but light on guitars making it sound very unbalanced.
The yellow/orange vinyl 45 which came with it had SLS on it from the same show and a poor audience recording of Satisfaction from another date if I remember correctly.

Yes, Satisfaction was from the Philly show.

Bought it, way back then, and played it to pieces.

great band,great show. Lovely memories.
Jeroen