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DandelionPowderman

Would be great to hear Ronnie at this level... live on stage...

Check out Ride 'Em On Down from Desert Trip.

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powerage78
And Start Me Up and Come Together ?

Would be great to hear Ronnie at this level... live on stage...

Check out Ride 'Em On Down from Desert Trip.

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DandelionPowderman

And Start Me Up and Come Together ?

Would be great to hear Ronnie at this level... live on stage...

Check out Ride 'Em On Down from Desert Trip.

His playing on Ride 'Em On Down live is just as good as on the album.

That was what you asked for, remember?

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LeonidP

I qouted myself for Leonid

that wasn't my point ... it was that you haven't given the new ones a try yet. I'm not saying it has to be for everyone but there's no way the covers of the first album blow these away in any regard, including (and especially) vocals.


And, since you're quoting yourself, I will do the same ...


have you even listened to the new one more than twice? I know you'll say you did, but you didn't

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Idorh
In my 36 years of marriage, this is the first record of the Stones she appreciates.
I do not need to put on headphones hahaha. But it's a great album, Charlie is also great, Charlie is the heart of the band. It would be nice if the stones regularly would record a blues number in the future.
Gr Bert.

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MisterDDDD
Ride 'em on Down (Vegas)

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powerage78
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DandelionPowderman

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DandelionPowderman

Ride 'em on Down (Vegas)

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jlowe

In my 36 years of marriage, this is the first record of the Stones she appreciates.
I do not need to put on headphones hahaha. But it's a great album, Charlie is also great, Charlie is the heart of the band. It would be nice if the stones regularly would record a blues number in the future.
Gr Bert.

Haha. I have also been married for 36 years but I doubt even this album will drag her away from Sir Cliff Richard and Sir Elton John.

No accounting for taste.

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LeonidP

I qouted myself for Leonid

that wasn't my point ... it was that you haven't given the new ones a try yet. I'm not saying it has to be for everyone but there's no way the covers of the first album blow these away in any regard, including (and especially) vocals.


And, since you're quoting yourself, I will do the same ...


have you even listened to the new one more than twice? I know you'll say you did, but you didn't

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Redhotcarpet

OK sorry i misunderstood Well i think their coves frön 1964/65 were better (the blues covers, king bee, rooster, satisfied, little etc). To me it is probably because of Brian and the way Mick sang on those. Then again he sang satisfied great in that rehearsal [g.co]

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LeonidP

you're not really saying anything specific about what you don't like on the new album, again, generic statements "to me the older stuff was better" ... so did you listen, at least 3 times? What song do they play poorly? What mix don't you like? What song is Jagger's singing off? Where is Ronnie screwing up the guitar licks?

I can tell you (and have many times) exactly why I don't like Dirty Work, for example...[/quote

..it could be said ALL or a vast majority of music is "played fine and without mistakes". Most, after all, is sanitised and "machined" to death, including vocals. Being note perfect doesn't make it good to all persons tastes. Taste is personal. If someone doesn't like, someone doesn't like it; being perfectly played and produced has nothing to do with it.

Rod



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MonkeyMan2000
Sorry if already posted, haven't seen them here before:

Interview with Keith:
[www.youtube.com]

Interview with Ronnie:
[www.youtube.com]

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Taste is personal. If someone doesn't like, someone doesn't like it;

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Hairball

Taste is personal. If someone doesn't like, someone doesn't like it;




Indeed, and I don't understand why someone who says they didn't like it should be interrogated by someone else. It seems the 'interrogator' has taken personal offense as if someone is criticizing a family member of theirs.
It's a rock and roll/blues covers album for crying out loud, not their mother! Rather than making it a personal assault, perhaps that person should list all the reasons why they love it, and if they can't understand or don't like an opinion that differs from their own (or the method one used to form an opinion),then too bad. Get over it and move on. Not everyone thinks the same, nor should anyone be held at the stake and forced to explain their reasoning. If someone doesn't like it, someone doesn't like it.

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Taste is personal. If someone doesn't like, someone doesn't like it;




Indeed, and I don't understand why someone who says they didn't like it should be interrogated by someone else. It seems the 'interrogator' has taken personal offense as if someone is criticizing a family member of theirs.
It's a rock and roll/blues covers album for crying out loud, not their mother! Rather than making it a personal assault, perhaps that person should list all the reasons why they love it, and if they can't understand or don't like an opinion that differs from their own (or the method one used to form an opinion),then too bad. Get over it and move on. Not everyone thinks the same, nor should anyone be held at the stake and forced to explain their reasoning. If someone doesn't like it, someone doesn't like it.

Yes I'm a little curious about that too. I love the band tremendously and one of my all time fave review is Bukowski at L.A. '75 hired by Creem Magazine I think...it's brilliant and totally offbeat and oddball. Half the story is about him getting drunk with a girl and they almost didn't even bother to get to the show...haha. when he does get there, it's this guy from another generation with another whole sensibility and field of experience with music and it's just hyterical when he describes what's going on his row and etc...and how mick to him looks like a guy in his pajamas with shoe laces tied around his ankles etc...which is true haha...and how Bill's the only professional haw haw i mean...wow, here if you're not part of the promotion team you're in some kind trouble with other perfectly wonderful passionate rock fans so...i dunno....i love HMS' posts...

it's thru criticism of different ideas and approaches that teaches me a lot, and helps to musics i would have missed. or just provides some laughs or perspective if someone really hates a track I love. I mean I like Between The Buttons so I can't get too sensitive around here haha...but i like friendly back and forth too, like if someone asked me a specific question i'd try to get out of my box and see if i could express feelings about some detail that some other fan doesn't even factor in or care about...it don't mean i'm a party pooper. It just means i listen a lot and care like everyone else here....i mean...let it loose.

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Well yeah Dandelion, it's a new Stones album albeit a new album of covers.
It just seems time might be better spent by those who love it so much to discuss the reasons why they love it, rather than trying to dissect someone's thoughts for thinking otherwise.
But maybe there's not much left to talk about with this new album (being that it's all covers), so attention is directed at someone with a differing/negative opinion of it?
Have they become the target of derision simply because they don't fall in line with those who seem to love it?

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DandelionPowderman

Well yeah Dandelion, it's a new Stones album albeit a new album of covers.
It just seems time might be better spent by those who love it so much to discuss the reasons why they love it, rather than trying to dissect someone's thoughts for thinking otherwise.
But maybe there's not much left to talk about with this new album (being that it's all covers), so attention is directed at someone with a differing/negative opinion of it?
Have they become the target of derision simply because they don't fall in line with those who seem to love it?

It is an album of new recordings from the Stones. Some like it, others don't - that's how it should be, and that's how its doomed to be. I get that

However, we were discussing why we liked it so much. I can't remember a more positive bunch of posters. Many who had given up on the band, now praises this album (including a few who haven't come out of the closet as yet - who have shown their enthusiasm to me personally).

When someone says it's crap, that's pkay, of course. Twice? That's okay, too. Three times? No problem. Four times? Perhaps one might wanna give a review, say what's wrong with some of the tracks etc.?

I don't know. Everybody's got a right to speak his/her mind. But it's no crime asking for that opinion, either

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HonkeyTonkFlash


Well yeah Dandelion, it's a new Stones album albeit a new album of covers.
It just seems time might be better spent by those who love it so much to discuss the reasons why they love it, rather than trying to dissect someone's thoughts for thinking otherwise.
But maybe there's not much left to talk about with this new album (being that it's all covers), so attention is directed at someone with a differing/negative opinion of it?
Have they become the target of derision simply because they don't fall in line with those who seem to love it?

It is an album of new recordings from the Stones. Some like it, others don't - that's how it should be, and that's how its doomed to be. I get that

However, we were discussing why we liked it so much. I can't remember a more positive bunch of posters. Many who had given up on the band, now praises this album (including a few who haven't come out of the closet as yet - who have shown their enthusiasm to me personally).

When someone says it's crap, that's pkay, of course. Twice? That's okay, too. Three times? No problem. Four times? Perhaps one might wanna give a review, say what's wrong with some of the tracks etc.?

I don't know. Everybody's got a right to speak his/her mind. But it's no crime asking for that opinion, either

Well said, DP. I gotta admit, I approached this new album with a somewhat jaded attitude. (And I have been a staunch Stones defender since about 1965!) What can I say after hearing it? Mind blown. This album proves the Stones can still play and record vital, compelling music. This brightens my hopes for any possible new album of originals that may yet come out. If they can translate this kind of passion into their own compositions, we may be in for a late-era miracle! I hope so...

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DandelionPowderman

Well yeah Dandelion, it's a new Stones album albeit a new album of covers.
It just seems time might be better spent by those who love it so much to discuss the reasons why they love it, rather than trying to dissect someone's thoughts for thinking otherwise.
But maybe there's not much left to talk about with this new album (being that it's all covers), so attention is directed at someone with a differing/negative opinion of it?
Have they become the target of derision simply because they don't fall in line with those who seem to love it?

It is an album of new recordings from the Stones. Some like it, others don't - that's how it should be, and that's how its doomed to be. I get that

However, we were discussing why we liked it so much. I can't remember a more positive bunch of posters. Many who had given up on the band, now praises this album (including a few who haven't come out of the closet as yet - who have shown their enthusiasm to me personally).

When someone says it's crap, that's okay, of course. Twice? That's okay, too. Three times? No problem. Four times? Perhaps one might wanna give a review, say what's wrong with some of the tracks etc.?

I don't know. Everybody's got a right to speak his/her mind. But it's no crime asking for that opinion, either

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matxil


Well yeah Dandelion, it's a new Stones album albeit a new album of covers.
It just seems time might be better spent by those who love it so much to discuss the reasons why they love it, rather than trying to dissect someone's thoughts for thinking otherwise.
But maybe there's not much left to talk about with this new album (being that it's all covers), so attention is directed at someone with a differing/negative opinion of it?
Have they become the target of derision simply because they don't fall in line with those who seem to love it?

It is an album of new recordings from the Stones. Some like it, others don't - that's how it should be, and that's how its doomed to be. I get that

However, we were discussing why we liked it so much. I can't remember a more positive bunch of posters. Many who had given up on the band, now praises this album (including a few who haven't come out of the closet as yet - who have shown their enthusiasm to me personally).

When someone says it's crap, that's okay, of course. Twice? That's okay, too. Three times? No problem. Four times? Perhaps one might wanna give a review, say what's wrong with some of the tracks etc.?

I don't know. Everybody's got a right to speak his/her mind. But it's no crime asking for that opinion, either

Well, I have only heard the 3 singles and only once the entire album on Spotify. I really like Hate To See You Go. The thing most people will agree about is that they play really well, they know how to play the blues, it's a job well done. And most will agree that Mick Jagger is an outstanding harmonica player and sings really well on this album (or at least on the songs I have heard so far). And I am sure there's no other rock n roll band nowadays who could this better than the Rolling Stones.
However... From what I have seen, the problem for most people who are not so enthusiastic about the album - like me - is not the quality of their playing. The problem is that it's an album of covers, and that - moreover - they don't add anything "from themselves" to those covers (as opposed to what they did with Love In Vain, Stop Breaking Down, or even Little Red Rooster, Gotta Move or Wanna Make Love To You), and in various cases the originals are at least as good.
That said (and I have tried keeping my posts about this to the minimum), I am sure I will buy the album and enjoy it. But this is the Stones! Once, I was still hoping for more than just "good". And once, long ago, they used to be able to make their own brand of blues+soul+rocknroll+country+magic. This album for me sort of confirms that that era is long gone. Keith's solo album of last year still had a lot of that magic, and, so, for me was much more of a thrill than this blues album.
Still, I'm glad that the album works so well. It's been thirty years since the band has sounded even remotely as good (apart from a few good songs here and there).