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Load Out..........................................
Clubgig in LA area tonight........................
Normale procedure after rehearsals and before a first show.
It's private, not a club gig. Not in L.A.
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...., but a gig tonight.......Have Fun!
Setlist information would be nice!
There wasn't? There was a group of musicians readying themselves to play gigs. Note it doesn't show the name of the band on the contract.
This may have been something that was booked, but fell through or the actual date of the gig was for later. Or it took place and everyone forgot about it till now.
Gotta love how a simple piece of paper can kick of such speculation.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2016-10-03 01:37 by His Majesty.
There was a group of musicians, yes. Have you ever tried booking a band without a name for an out-of-town gig? There's a reason the story goes Brian had to pick a name on the spot. If July 12, 1962 at The Marquee Club was their first gig as everyone who was alive then maintains, it begs the question what was this June 1962 gig that may or may not have happened and what was the name of the group of musicians? Were they The Rollin' Stones already and this was a false start on their way to The Marquee Club that didn't happen? For anyone who saw Exhibitionism, did you see anything like this on display?
What about Vegas?
Production rehearsals? Private gig?
The name "Rollin' Stones" was already clear on 2-Jul-1962, note also Brian's handwriting:
[www.iorr.org]
Large pic of the contract from 27-Jun-1962:
"My new BLUE picks arrived!" - Keith Richards, 30-Sep-2016 -- [Twitter.com] .
Doesn't look like anything happened on Sunday night ? Monday night maybe ?
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"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"
Indeed. It's a complete red herring and nothing to do with the Stones!
"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"
Rocky, my dad hadn't been Lenny's manager since the early fifties. He had long since embarked on his career as a writer and producer, though he and Lenny remained close friends. But I'm jazzed to see you mention him!
He'd left the management thing by the mid fifties (he'd also worked with Dexter Gordon and Charlie Parker in that area), and teamed up with Arne as a writer. When they split up in 1963, Arne got rich in TV and my dad began his career producing movies. He did produce both the play and film about Lenny and to this day Marvin Worth Productions controls all dramatic rights to Lenny's material on behalf of his estate (which is basically now Kitty, as her mom and Lenny's mom are both gone). Arne and my dad did reteam later on the movie See No Evil, Hear No Evil with my dad's pal Richard Pryor, and Gene Wilder, but Arne passed away before it was released. Maybe it was the manager character in the Lenny film that suggested to you that he and Lenny were still working together, but that was a composite.
I know they worked with Blatty on something in the sixties but I can't remember what it was. So many crazy projects people who later did such credible work were involved in then. Bill Friedkin doing the Sonny and Cher movie. The Judy Garland show. Of course, Rafelson and Schneider and Steve Blauner doing the Monkees. We sat with those guys when I was a kid at the famous late night Stones show at the Forum in '69.
My dad produced two movies about people who were his friends when he was young. One was Lenny and the other was Malcolm X. In both cases, he was assigned the rights by the families who trusted him.
And yes, Keith Richards really is a Lenny fanatic.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2016-10-04 12:02 by TeddyB1018.
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Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
RipThisBone
()
Date: October 2, 2016 21:45
Load Out..........................................
Clubgig in LA area tonight........................
Normale procedure after rehearsals and before a first show.
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
donnarq1
()
Date: October 2, 2016 21:54
Okay...hope I'll still get in late afternoon, early evening.
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
waterrats
()
Date: October 2, 2016 22:26
It's dark where that truck is. Must be a basement? For Charlotte posted it about 12 hrs. ago, so ... if it's outside, then it's not for tonight... ?
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
bye bye johnny
()
Date: October 2, 2016 22:34
"Load out" means they moved the gear from the rehearsal site.
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
roller99
()
Date: October 2, 2016 23:44
Rehearsals are done in Burbank. Private show tonight. You'll find out.
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
bye bye johnny
()
Date: October 2, 2016 23:50
Thanks for having an ear to the ground, roller99. ;-)
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
roller99
()
Date: October 3, 2016 00:16
Quote
RipThisBone
Load Out..........................................
Clubgig in LA area tonight........................
Normale procedure after rehearsals and before a first show.
It's private, not a club gig. Not in L.A.
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
gotdablouse
()
Date: October 3, 2016 00:18
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Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
RipThisBone
()
Date: October 3, 2016 00:39
Quote
roller99Quote
RipThisBone
Load Out..........................................
Clubgig in LA area tonight........................
Normale procedure after rehearsals and before a first show.
It's private, not a club gig. Not in L.A.
...., but a gig tonight.......Have Fun!
Setlist information would be nice!
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: October 3, 2016 01:33
Quote
Rocky DijonQuote
Monsoon Ragoon
Brian was the Stone Number One very early on and signed all contracts.
Yeah, but in June 1962 there was no Rollin' Stones yet. That's what I meant.
There wasn't? There was a group of musicians readying themselves to play gigs. Note it doesn't show the name of the band on the contract.
This may have been something that was booked, but fell through or the actual date of the gig was for later. Or it took place and everyone forgot about it till now.
Gotta love how a simple piece of paper can kick of such speculation.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2016-10-03 01:37 by His Majesty.
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
Socrates1
()
Date: October 3, 2016 02:35
Anybody hear anything yet? Is BV in L.A.?
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
Rocky Dijon
()
Date: October 3, 2016 03:49
Quote
His MajestyQuote
Rocky DijonQuote
Monsoon Ragoon
Brian was the Stone Number One very early on and signed all contracts.
Yeah, but in June 1962 there was no Rollin' Stones yet. That's what I meant.
There wasn't? There was a group of musicians readying themselves to play gigs. Note it doesn't show the name of the band on the contract.
This may have been something that was booked, but fell through or the actual date of the gig was for later. Or it took place and everyone forgot about it till now.
Gotta love how a simple piece of paper can kick of such speculation.
There was a group of musicians, yes. Have you ever tried booking a band without a name for an out-of-town gig? There's a reason the story goes Brian had to pick a name on the spot. If July 12, 1962 at The Marquee Club was their first gig as everyone who was alive then maintains, it begs the question what was this June 1962 gig that may or may not have happened and what was the name of the group of musicians? Were they The Rollin' Stones already and this was a false start on their way to The Marquee Club that didn't happen? For anyone who saw Exhibitionism, did you see anything like this on display?
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
weeicemon
()
Date: October 3, 2016 05:43
Vegas
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: October 3, 2016 08:37
Quote
weeicemon
Vegas
What about Vegas?
Production rehearsals? Private gig?
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: October 3, 2016 10:50
Quote
Rocky Dijon
Were they The Rollin' Stones already and this was a false start on their way to The Marquee Club that didn't happen?
The name "Rollin' Stones" was already clear on 2-Jul-1962, note also Brian's handwriting:
[www.iorr.org]
Large pic of the contract from 27-Jun-1962:
"My new BLUE picks arrived!" - Keith Richards, 30-Sep-2016 -- [Twitter.com] .
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
gotdablouse
()
Date: October 3, 2016 16:19
Quote
roller99
Rehearsals are done in Burbank. Private show tonight. You'll find out.
Doesn't look like anything happened on Sunday night ? Monday night maybe ?
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Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
StonedAsia
()
Date: October 3, 2016 17:32
Earl Phillips on drums?? The Jimmy Reed drummer???
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2016-10-03 17:33 by StonedAsia.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2016-10-03 17:33 by StonedAsia.
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: October 3, 2016 17:45
The last name in that contract looks something like a Batt... or Bath... or because it's in cursive it could be an S, which is most likely is. The rest of the letters being too screwed up to see.
Sure as hell isn't Brian Jones.
Sure as hell isn't Brian Jones.
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
mr_dja
()
Date: October 3, 2016 18:03
Notice that above the signature lines it says "PLEASE INTITIAL". If it's the case that the LB in front of the Artist are initials, what it the rest? I don't think it's "rian Jones". The letters at the end look to me to be either the word "attorney" or possibly an abbreviation of attorney.
Peace,
Mr DJA
Peace,
Mr DJA
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
bv
()
Date: October 3, 2016 18:23
I bet they have great fun reading all the comments about those papers!
Bjornulf
Bjornulf
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
DeanGoodman
()
Date: October 3, 2016 19:07
It's out there, but LB = Lenny Bruce? The signature is not a perfect match, though I see Lenny did have two loops in the L, as pictured. Contract also refers to "he" - though this might be boilerplate usage. The Crescendo had an upstairs comedy room. And the contract indicates the provision of just a microphone. Keith probably thinks he is Lenny Bruce. Still doesn't explain the rest of the signature (or why he might have an orchestra).
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
Deltics
()
Date: October 3, 2016 20:33
Wishful thinking on Brian's part once it became clear that Mick Avory wasn't going to play the gig.Quote
StonedAsia
Earl Phillips on drums?? The Jimmy Reed drummer???
"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
Deltics
()
Date: October 3, 2016 20:40
Quote
bv
I bet they have great fun reading all the comments about those papers!
Indeed. It's a complete red herring and nothing to do with the Stones!
"As we say in England, it can get a bit trainspottery"
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
J.J.Flash
()
Date: October 4, 2016 04:18
Mick was spotted at carbone restaurant in vegas yesterday.
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
Rocky Dijon
()
Date: October 4, 2016 05:33
So if it's not Brian's signature and it is The old Crescendo Club on the Sunst Strip, who is the artist? June 1962 Ella Fitzgerald and Red Foxx were playing there. It isn't Lenny Bruce's signature or else Marvin Worth would have co-signed as manager. It's not Mort Sahl. I'm at a loss. Looking forward to hearing about the surprise club show.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2016-10-04 05:34 by Rocky Dijon.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2016-10-04 05:34 by Rocky Dijon.
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
Socrates1
()
Date: October 4, 2016 06:08
The name looks like it ends with "..thy." So we have "LB...thy" so far.
Edit: Or the name could end in "they." But that wouldn't make sense. This is quite a mystery.
2nd Edit: A Shure Dynamic Microphone 556 S was used in the club. Does that ring any bells?
3rd Edit:
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2016-10-04 06:16 by Socrates1.
Edit: Or the name could end in "they." But that wouldn't make sense. This is quite a mystery.
2nd Edit: A Shure Dynamic Microphone 556 S was used in the club. Does that ring any bells?
3rd Edit:
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2016-10-04 06:16 by Socrates1.
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
TeddyB1018
()
Date: October 4, 2016 08:13
Quote
Rocky Dijon
So if it's not Brian's signature and it is The old Crescendo Club on the Sunst Strip, who is the artist? June 1962 Ella Fitzgerald and Red Foxx were playing there. It isn't Lenny Bruce's signature or else Marvin Worth would have co-signed as manager. It's not Mort Sahl. I'm at a loss. Looking forward to hearing about the surprise club show.
Rocky, my dad hadn't been Lenny's manager since the early fifties. He had long since embarked on his career as a writer and producer, though he and Lenny remained close friends. But I'm jazzed to see you mention him!
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
Rocky Dijon
()
Date: October 4, 2016 08:25
Now that's a shocker to me, Teddy. I thought your Dad was Lenny's manager to the end because he produced the play and movie of his life. I knew of him because of his association with Arne Sultan and (by extension only) William Peter Blatty. He wrote a lot of funny material and had good taste as a producer. However, since this kinda blows your cover, I'm fine with deleting this post if you want to remain anonymous.
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
TeddyB1018
()
Date: October 4, 2016 11:57
Quote
Rocky Dijon
Now that's a shocker to me, Teddy. I thought your Dad was Lenny's manager to the end because he produced the play and movie of his life. I knew of him because of his association with Arne Sultan and (by extension only) William Peter Blatty. He wrote a lot of funny material and had good taste as a producer. However, since this kinda blows your cover, I'm fine with deleting this post if you want to remain anonymous.
He'd left the management thing by the mid fifties (he'd also worked with Dexter Gordon and Charlie Parker in that area), and teamed up with Arne as a writer. When they split up in 1963, Arne got rich in TV and my dad began his career producing movies. He did produce both the play and film about Lenny and to this day Marvin Worth Productions controls all dramatic rights to Lenny's material on behalf of his estate (which is basically now Kitty, as her mom and Lenny's mom are both gone). Arne and my dad did reteam later on the movie See No Evil, Hear No Evil with my dad's pal Richard Pryor, and Gene Wilder, but Arne passed away before it was released. Maybe it was the manager character in the Lenny film that suggested to you that he and Lenny were still working together, but that was a composite.
I know they worked with Blatty on something in the sixties but I can't remember what it was. So many crazy projects people who later did such credible work were involved in then. Bill Friedkin doing the Sonny and Cher movie. The Judy Garland show. Of course, Rafelson and Schneider and Steve Blauner doing the Monkees. We sat with those guys when I was a kid at the famous late night Stones show at the Forum in '69.
My dad produced two movies about people who were his friends when he was young. One was Lenny and the other was Malcolm X. In both cases, he was assigned the rights by the families who trusted him.
And yes, Keith Richards really is a Lenny fanatic.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2016-10-04 12:02 by TeddyB1018.
Re: Rolling Stones LA Rehearsals - September 2016
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: October 4, 2016 13:54
Quote
DelticsQuote
bv
I bet they have great fun reading all the comments about those papers!
Indeed. It's a complete red herring and nothing to do with the Stones!
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