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With Exception of Stray Cat Blues 9/10, Midnight Rambler 9/10 and Satisfaction 9/10
Great post. I totally agree on 2 points : GYYYO is still great because it was a statement about a new sound for the band. It was as important as Let It Bleed or Sticky Fingers for the band sound image. It's the link between those two studio records.
Then I think you're right when you say that the old live album concept is dead and that the recent bootleg releases are not on the same level as the classic live albums. Not they are less good or less enjoyable but they're just documents of a particular concert on a particular year with no concept behind. And that's maybe why people seems to appreciate them more than the old concept live albums...
All of the live albums following GYYYO (LYL, Stilllife, Flashpoint...) have been a statement about the new sound of the band. In this perspective the one that worked the best is possibly Flashpoint.
lmfoa. Great post 35love.
Classic record, hard to find much wrong with it. Can't believe it's 46 years old. Is this oldies music? I think it's pretty timeless. I give in a 9/10 and only because I don't like Chuck Berry covers.
I agree with you
I love those Chuck Berry tracks, especially Little Queenie. I think the slowing down of it, and the heavy riffing each time after Mick sings: "Meanwhile, I was stiiiiiil thinking", all add to make it sound very dirty.
Whereas the original Chuck Berry version is naughty: a man excited by looking at a pretty girl, the Stones turn it into a very dark, horny, dirty, almost pornographic thing. "Meanwhile, I was thinking..." and you almost hesitate to imagine what he's thinking about.
The great thing about SFTD is the two solos. How completely different they are but somehow complement each other. Both great in their own - very different ways.
And Little Queenie indeed is a highlight, as I tried to explain in my previous post. It's slowness contributes to its roughness and dirtiness.
It's fast. It has a great beat. It snarls. That's part of what makes it excellent - it's a completely different song. LYL version is good too but a bit slower, a bit messy but still pretty good. The version on FLASHPOINT was brilliant... for being an updated way of doing it closer to the LP version. Unfortunately they've stuck with it and now it's just mall music and that FLASHPOINT version has not aged well. It's awful.
Valid opinion, thanks for the explanation.
I think you're imagination has run amok in the gutter - sounds like you're almost describing Aqualung by Jethro Tull!
"Sitting on a park bench
Eyeing little girls
With bad intent.
Snot running down his nose
Greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes..."
As I said, both standout tracks within the context of the album, but alone can't hold a candle to the originals.
(For what it's worth, I don't think there's any Stones covers that are better than the originals - except maybe Time is on My Side).
ps - thanks to GasLightStreet for all the detailed documentation posted above.
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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Every review that rates Love In Vain and Sympathy from YaYas as "5/10" and "6/10", not to speak of others (Midnight Rambler: "6/10" - bah!) qualifies as nothing more than pure rubbish and shows little love and understanding for Stones music. Sorry if I sound harsh, but such ridiculousness can hardly be topped.
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I prefer just to listen to the music instead thinking about if I'm considered a loving listener or not.
JFF, Stray Cat Blues and Live With Me are the only tracks I would consider to be ''great'' on Ya Ya's while many songs on LYL and No Security are fantastic in every possible way. The fact that Ya Ya's is a decent album which is massively overrated by Stones fans remains.
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That statement is logically incorrect
It it possible for there to be 10 or even 100 10/10 versions of a song if it is consistently played at the highest possible quality.
The performance on YaYas is flawless. Not saying it is the best, but that's different.
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The Stones doing Chuck Berry songs... Chuck Berry's versions are bettered by the Stones. I've yet to hear a Chuck song be as good as the way the Stones did it. It's strange to say that but I think the Stones are better at Chuck Berry than Chuck Berry is!
Keith is way more detailed in the playing where as Chuck, he's just thinkin' about the money and bum notes be damned. Listen to his Around And Around and then the Stones... there's some awful notes in Chuck's version. The Stones? They make that song burn with fire.
The two Chuck Berry songs on GYYYO are supreme - yeah, they are slower; they're mean. They are deliberately heavy. Because it sounds fantastic.
Agree regarding the Stones version of Around and Around being wickedly great - those early live versions (studio version as well) are something to behold.
That probably comes as close to topping Chuck Berry as the Stones ever have, but still think the CB original is superior.
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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Maybe so, but you're wrong about it being flawless. It is a very good version, though, like I said in my review (7/10).
To people hinting that others (me included?) "don't understand" or "don't show the love" for what you think is excellent: Get real
People like different things.
A little hint: Mick's LIV vocals were perfected between 1971-1978, where he gradually added more dynamics to the song. The vocalist's performance is not without importance for how we rate it...
AND: A song doesn't get 10/10 from me because of guitar solos alone.
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Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
Posted by:
Tops
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Date: November 28, 2015 00:03
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theBlockbuster
It's a very overrated album, which I rarely listen to. However I still think it's a decent document of the time and it has the best album cover of any Stones record.
Jumping Jack Flash: 8/10
Carol: 5/10
Stray Cat Blues: 7/10
Love In Vain: 5/10
Midnight Rambler: 7/10
Sympathy For The Devil: 6/10
Live With Me: 8/10
Little Queenie: 6/10
Honky Tonk Women: 5/10
Street Fighting Man: 5/10
Prodigal Son: 7/10
You Gotta Move: 6/10
Under My Thumb: 4/10
I'm Free: 6/10
(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction: 4/10
+1
With Exception of Stray Cat Blues 9/10, Midnight Rambler 9/10 and Satisfaction 9/10
Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
Posted by:
NICOS
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Date: November 28, 2015 01:06
For me this is the ultimate "live" recording ever made, 10 out of 10 for 9 songs and 10+ for 1 song......
Probably the record I played the most back in 1970........didn't left my turn table for months and while listening looking at the pictures of back of the sleeve..............
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Probably the record I played the most back in 1970........didn't left my turn table for months and while listening looking at the pictures of back of the sleeve..............
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Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
Posted by:
kowalski
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Date: November 28, 2015 01:50
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Doxa
Still recall the impression this album made when I heard it back in 1982 as a teenegar boy. GOT LIVE IF WANT IT! was my first Stones live record, and I am not sure if STILL LIFE was already released or not. Anyway, YA-YA'S! sounded simply magnificient, so dark and straight to the point, incredibly professional, so damn focused, so tight, so cool and blues, like some hidden rage was established as music. There was something so powerful, never heard the Stones or any other other band sounding like that... like a totally new world, a new chapter in rock and roll, opened to me. By the terms of 1982, it sounded incredibly relevant, like a flash of some internal rock music heaven, the guys talking in a language anyone understanding something of the rock music would understand. I mean, I loved the sheer energy and attitude of GOT LIVE! and STILL LIFE was a funny, sloppy recording, old legends playing with experience and arrogance of 'elder statemens' or rock', but YA-YA'S! was something different: a serious business; just a statement of the music itself, the guys seemigly in the height of their powers, with no any excuse. (I get to know LOVE YOU LIVE afterwards, but it was huge disappointment after YA-YA'S! - like some sloppy, lazy, degenerated version of the band of YA-Ya'S).
Within my half year or in deep studies of the Rolling Stones music by then I knew all the songs already, "Flash", "Honky Tonk" and BEGGARS BANQUET and LET IT BLEED very familiar to me. But it was this interpretation of that stuff which totally made me convinced of the strenght of that 1968/69 material. Especially the version of "Jumping Jack Flash" made me realize why this particular riff might be the strongest one ever made. I deeply liked the original studio version, but it was however this version which made me appreciate the deep core genious of the song, one of the strongest ever in a rock and roll song. Even though I had STICKY FINGERS and EXILE by then, it was through this record I came to familar with Mick Taylor, and that he had a huge say why the band started to call themselves 'the greatest rock and roll band in the world' with some real justification, even though as the world's biggest Keith Richards fan at the time, it was somehow painful for me to realize that the most noteworthy guitar contributions in that record did not come from him (it was later when I really started to apperiacate Keith's idiosyncratic strenghts as a guitarist by terms ot its own, and they not meeting the standards of 'normal' criteria to evaluate guitar playing). Taylor sounded almost too good ("Love In vain", "Stray Cat Blues"...) for the Stones as I saw the band at the time...
Okay, that was some personal history. That was then and now is now. I must admit that since getting familiar with bootleg material from that era and all that, YA-YA'S! didn't sound so unique masterpiece any longer. Today, when we are almost loaded with official live material from those days, the significance of the album is not really so huge, and I quite rarely listen to it any longer. Like is with any good old concept live albums - you know, when live albums really were musical statements and not just documents of shows. But, of course, still today I would rank it easily their best live album ever (I really don't count these bootleg series, etc. stuff as serious live albums - the old live album concept is dead).
Outside my own pespective, the historical significance of GET YER YA-YA'S! cannot be underestimated. It introduced their new sound to millions of people all around the world who couldn't have a chance to see them actually live. It gave them tremendous credibility as a live band. In many sense it is as important album as any of the Big Four establishing their strongest, and lasting legacy. We should actually speak of Big Five, including it. Among other things, STICKY FINGERS didn't sound so surprisingly different in compared to LET IT BLEED, since YA-YA'S has introduced the new, hard rocking sound of the band to the world. YA-YA'S! marks an important phase and landmark in the development of the band in the height of their powers, during their most creative period.
- Doxa
Great post. I totally agree on 2 points : GYYYO is still great because it was a statement about a new sound for the band. It was as important as Let It Bleed or Sticky Fingers for the band sound image. It's the link between those two studio records.
Then I think you're right when you say that the old live album concept is dead and that the recent bootleg releases are not on the same level as the classic live albums. Not they are less good or less enjoyable but they're just documents of a particular concert on a particular year with no concept behind. And that's maybe why people seems to appreciate them more than the old concept live albums...
All of the live albums following GYYYO (LYL, Stilllife, Flashpoint...) have been a statement about the new sound of the band. In this perspective the one that worked the best is possibly Flashpoint.
Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
Posted by:
35love
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Date: November 28, 2015 01:54
I listened to a lot of Ya Ya's today, it'd been a long time, another one who reveled in this album upon discovering it/ rabid new RS lover in the 80's, I can't tell you what a long strange trip it's been.
The JJF opening slammed me. I saw a JJF opener live, for the first time, with my own eyes up close, Zipcode '15, and
JJF IS a SLAM opener. Right in your face. Love it.
SFTD: I have never picked up a guitar in my life, but my fingers know every tweak on this solo. A subtle but correct air guitar I can play on this one, it's engraved.
The fast tempo thru out is sheer excitement. Makes me look forward to life.
Under My Thumb, I'm Free,
these are my favorite live versions (mostly) because the way the guitars play those riffs in circle- can't explain technically, but to me it's perfect, capturing, puts me in a happy place.
Lastly a personal fav on here, Live With Me, ++++
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The JJF opening slammed me. I saw a JJF opener live, for the first time, with my own eyes up close, Zipcode '15, and
JJF IS a SLAM opener. Right in your face. Love it.
SFTD: I have never picked up a guitar in my life, but my fingers know every tweak on this solo. A subtle but correct air guitar I can play on this one, it's engraved.
The fast tempo thru out is sheer excitement. Makes me look forward to life.
Under My Thumb, I'm Free,
these are my favorite live versions (mostly) because the way the guitars play those riffs in circle- can't explain technically, but to me it's perfect, capturing, puts me in a happy place.
Lastly a personal fav on here, Live With Me, ++++
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-11-28 03:58 by 35love.
Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
Posted by:
35love
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Date: November 28, 2015 03:46
P.S.
I was also going to add, that middle part in Midnight Rambler?
It's like having sex.
Inappropriate sorry,
that's what I thought when it came back to me today listening to it.
I hadn't heard it in a long time!
Midnight Rambler is the BEST here.
I was also going to add, that middle part in Midnight Rambler?
It's like having sex.
Inappropriate sorry,
that's what I thought when it came back to me today listening to it.
I hadn't heard it in a long time!
Midnight Rambler is the BEST here.
Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
Posted by:
Naturalust
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Date: November 28, 2015 03:46
Quote
35love
SFTD: I have never picked up a guitar in my life, but my fingers know every tweak on this solo. A subtle but correct air guitar I can play on this one, it's engraved.
lmfoa. Great post 35love.
Classic record, hard to find much wrong with it. Can't believe it's 46 years old. Is this oldies music? I think it's pretty timeless. I give in a 9/10 and only because I don't like Chuck Berry covers.
Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
Posted by:
Cristiano Radtke
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Date: November 28, 2015 04:18
I know there's a lot of fans who think that Mick Taylor's best solo on Love in Vain is the one from Texas 1972, but imho his solo on Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out! is awesome, and one of his best ever recorded performances with the Stones.
Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
Posted by:
Turner68
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Date: November 28, 2015 05:34
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Cristiano Radtke
I know there's a lot of fans who think that Mick Taylor's best solo on Love in Vain is the one from Texas 1972, but imho his solo on Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out! is awesome, and one of his best ever recorded performances with the Stones.
I agree with you
Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
Posted by:
Blueranger
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Date: November 28, 2015 06:06
My favourite live album, together with Live At Leeds.
Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
Posted by:
pepganzo
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Date: November 28, 2015 10:27
The best versions of Jumpin' Jack Flash, Love in Vain, Honky Tonk Women are here.
Love that sound, they played slower than in the other tours and the band was already on fire.
Love that sound, they played slower than in the other tours and the band was already on fire.
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Posted by:
matxil
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Date: November 28, 2015 11:56
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Hairball
While they're all standout tracks, I should qualify that by saying I'm probably in the minority in thinking the Chuck Berry covers aren't the greatest.
A bit slow and sludgy, and although Keith's riffs are essential, hard to top the Chuck originals imo.
With that said, they're party of the overall vibe and what makes the album great, therefore they are standouts.
I love those Chuck Berry tracks, especially Little Queenie. I think the slowing down of it, and the heavy riffing each time after Mick sings: "Meanwhile, I was stiiiiiil thinking", all add to make it sound very dirty.
Whereas the original Chuck Berry version is naughty: a man excited by looking at a pretty girl, the Stones turn it into a very dark, horny, dirty, almost pornographic thing. "Meanwhile, I was thinking..." and you almost hesitate to imagine what he's thinking about.
Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
Posted by:
matxil
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Date: November 28, 2015 12:00
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Tops
I don't really get what¨s so great about the GYYO version of SFTD. I don't get it. Boring.
I very much prefer the LYL-version The RnR-circus version and the one from Hyde Park in 69.
Little Queenie 10/10 ???????
But great versions of Stray Cat Blues and Midnight Rambler.
The great thing about SFTD is the two solos. How completely different they are but somehow complement each other. Both great in their own - very different ways.
And Little Queenie indeed is a highlight, as I tried to explain in my previous post. It's slowness contributes to its roughness and dirtiness.
Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
Posted by:
john lomax
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Date: November 28, 2015 13:42
I love Ya Yas. It is my favourite live album and one of my favourite albums (live or studio) of all time.
I first heard it in 1987. A friend of mine had bought it on an old Decca cassette tape(along with Beggars Banquet -there was a shop in Sydney called Zounds that lots of amazing stuff, brand new but really cheap). Anyway, I 1987 I was 16 and me and a few mates used to hang out and drink beer and listen to music and I remember my friend brought along his YA Yas cassette......I was instantly blown away by Jumping Jack Flash, by how slow and bluesy and dirty it seemed compared to the studio version. It was this album, and probably this version of JJF, that transformed me from someone who quite liked to Stones into a major Stones fan.
He following year I got a copy of Stanley Booth's book and so it was great to read descriptions of the gigs whilst listening to the album. I still hadn't seen Gimme Shelter at this point - I didn't get to see that until a little indie cinema in Sydney called the Encore Cinema showed it in 1990. And then I was blown away by the original live JJF vocal "it's allright, yeah it's allright@.
I now have two vinyl copies of the album and I think 3 or 4 cd editions and I will probably end up buying more!!
I first heard it in 1987. A friend of mine had bought it on an old Decca cassette tape(along with Beggars Banquet -there was a shop in Sydney called Zounds that lots of amazing stuff, brand new but really cheap). Anyway, I 1987 I was 16 and me and a few mates used to hang out and drink beer and listen to music and I remember my friend brought along his YA Yas cassette......I was instantly blown away by Jumping Jack Flash, by how slow and bluesy and dirty it seemed compared to the studio version. It was this album, and probably this version of JJF, that transformed me from someone who quite liked to Stones into a major Stones fan.
He following year I got a copy of Stanley Booth's book and so it was great to read descriptions of the gigs whilst listening to the album. I still hadn't seen Gimme Shelter at this point - I didn't get to see that until a little indie cinema in Sydney called the Encore Cinema showed it in 1990. And then I was blown away by the original live JJF vocal "it's allright, yeah it's allright@.
I now have two vinyl copies of the album and I think 3 or 4 cd editions and I will probably end up buying more!!
Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
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Date: November 28, 2015 19:26
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matxilQuote
Tops
I don't really get what¨s so great about the GYYO version of SFTD. I don't get it. Boring.
I very much prefer the LYL-version The RnR-circus version and the one from Hyde Park in 69.
The great thing about SFTD is the two solos. How completely different they are but somehow complement each other. Both great in their own - very different ways.
It's fast. It has a great beat. It snarls. That's part of what makes it excellent - it's a completely different song. LYL version is good too but a bit slower, a bit messy but still pretty good. The version on FLASHPOINT was brilliant... for being an updated way of doing it closer to the LP version. Unfortunately they've stuck with it and now it's just mall music and that FLASHPOINT version has not aged well. It's awful.
Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: November 28, 2015 19:33
The Opening Words
Lines with common symbols (+,-,*) are doubled and tripled, that is at some point all sets of lines are being said at once. The show sources for the lines have been identified where possible.
Left Channel:
+ Se..seems...se..seems to be ready are you ready?: (November 28, 1969 1st)
+ Everybody ready
For the next band...
- Well the biggest band to visit New York
- We'll they've done the West Coast and they've done all sorts of other places in America and now they're in New York: (November 27, 1969)
- The greatest rock 'n roll band in the world: (November 28, 1969 1st show)
* For the first time in three years: (November 27, 1969 or November 28, 1969 1st show)
* Welcome the Rolling Stones
The Rolling Stones...The Rolling Stones: (November 27, 1969, and every show I know of on the 1969 tour, he always said this twice.)
Right Channel:
Se..seems...se..seems to be ready are you ready?: (November 28, 1969 1st)
We're sorry for the delay
+ Is everybody ready... for the next band
+ We'll they've done the West Coast and they've done all sorts of other places in America and now they're in New York: (November 27, 1969)
+ For the next band..stand-up and sound as if you are ready con(?)..Let's really hear it for the next band
- For the first time in three years..The Rolling Stones..The Rolling Stones: (November 27, 1969)
- Sit tall and have a fantastic time
The greatest rock 'n roll band in the world: (November 28, 1969 1st show)
The Rolling Stones..The Rolling Stones
The opening lines from MSG, November 27, 1969
Cutler:
"They've done the West Coast and they've done all sorts of other places in America, and now they're in New York. For the first time in three years The Rolling Stones...The Rolling Stones"
Jagger:
"All right...all right...whoo"
The opening lines from MSG November 28, 1969, 2nd:
Jagger:
"Far out...sorry you had to wait".
These words were spliced into the "Gimme Shelter" movie just before Honky Tonk Women.
The opening lines from the "Gimme Shelter" movie:
Cutler:
Everybody seems to be ready are you ready?
For the first time in three years
The greatest rock 'n roll band in the world
The Rolling Stones..The Rolling Stones
Jagger:
* We're gonna have a look at ya
* We're gonna see how beautiful you are
* Whoo...all right
* Ooh New York City your talkin' a lot let's have a look at ya
* Let's have a look at New York City...whoo
* Well all right
Welcome to the Breakfast Show
The Breakfast Show is November 28, 1969 1st Show!
* Spliced in from the words spoken before Little Queenie Nov. 28, 1969 1st show. Jagger always asked for the house lights before this song on the '69 tour.
[www.rollingstonesnet.com]
Lines with common symbols (+,-,*) are doubled and tripled, that is at some point all sets of lines are being said at once. The show sources for the lines have been identified where possible.
Left Channel:
+ Se..seems...se..seems to be ready are you ready?: (November 28, 1969 1st)
+ Everybody ready
For the next band...
- Well the biggest band to visit New York
- We'll they've done the West Coast and they've done all sorts of other places in America and now they're in New York: (November 27, 1969)
- The greatest rock 'n roll band in the world: (November 28, 1969 1st show)
* For the first time in three years: (November 27, 1969 or November 28, 1969 1st show)
* Welcome the Rolling Stones
The Rolling Stones...The Rolling Stones: (November 27, 1969, and every show I know of on the 1969 tour, he always said this twice.)
Right Channel:
Se..seems...se..seems to be ready are you ready?: (November 28, 1969 1st)
We're sorry for the delay
+ Is everybody ready... for the next band
+ We'll they've done the West Coast and they've done all sorts of other places in America and now they're in New York: (November 27, 1969)
+ For the next band..stand-up and sound as if you are ready con(?)..Let's really hear it for the next band
- For the first time in three years..The Rolling Stones..The Rolling Stones: (November 27, 1969)
- Sit tall and have a fantastic time
The greatest rock 'n roll band in the world: (November 28, 1969 1st show)
The Rolling Stones..The Rolling Stones
The opening lines from MSG, November 27, 1969
Cutler:
"They've done the West Coast and they've done all sorts of other places in America, and now they're in New York. For the first time in three years The Rolling Stones...The Rolling Stones"
Jagger:
"All right...all right...whoo"
The opening lines from MSG November 28, 1969, 2nd:
Jagger:
"Far out...sorry you had to wait".
These words were spliced into the "Gimme Shelter" movie just before Honky Tonk Women.
The opening lines from the "Gimme Shelter" movie:
Cutler:
Everybody seems to be ready are you ready?
For the first time in three years
The greatest rock 'n roll band in the world
The Rolling Stones..The Rolling Stones
Jagger:
* We're gonna have a look at ya
* We're gonna see how beautiful you are
* Whoo...all right
* Ooh New York City your talkin' a lot let's have a look at ya
* Let's have a look at New York City...whoo
* Well all right
Welcome to the Breakfast Show
The Breakfast Show is November 28, 1969 1st Show!
* Spliced in from the words spoken before Little Queenie Nov. 28, 1969 1st show. Jagger always asked for the house lights before this song on the '69 tour.
[www.rollingstonesnet.com]
Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
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Date: November 28, 2015 19:34
Jagger's opening words:
"watch it"
This is an overdub.
Jumpin' Jack Flash Lyric
Analysis of the Spoken Words from Jumpin' Jack Flash to Carol
A. Spoken lines between Jumpin' Jack Flash and Carol from "Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out":
Oh yeah thank you kindly
I think I busted a button on my trousers hope they don't fall down
You don't want my trousers to fall down now do you?
B. Spoken words before Carol MSG 11/27/69:
Line 1: Oh yeah thank you kindly
Line 2: I think I busted a button on my trousers hope they don't fall down
Line 3: It's that jumping around man I have to do it up again...whew
Line 4: You don't want my trousers to fall down now do you?
The spoken words on GYYYO are from MSG 11/27/69 (not necessarily the song!) with line 3 edited out.
C. "Gimme Shelter" Movie
Oh yeah thank you kindly
I think I busted a button on my trousers hope they don't fall down
It's that jumping around man I have to do it up again...whew
You don't want my trousers to fall down now do you?
Clearly taken from MSG 11/27/69 before the start of Carol and spliced in after Honky Tonk Women in the movie. This time unedited.
D. Even though Carol is not included in the "Gimme Shelter" movie the words spoken after Jumpin' Jack Flash would have normally preceded the song:
Line 1: Thank you
Line 2: Whoo baby, we're just gonna wake up
Line 3: Well all right
Line 4: Charlie's good tonight inny he
Line 5: I think you really, you really, dressed up tonight
Line 6: And I think, we'd like to see how you look
Line 7: Can we see how they look?
Line 8: Let's have a look how they look...c'mon
Line 9: Aaww we just wanted to see how they look
Line 10: Aaww we couldn't see you, we couldn't see you...
E. Spoken words before Carol from "Time Trip Volume 4" on Gold Standard (Scorpio).These are the unedited words from MSG 11/28/69 1st that precede the song:
a. Whoo Baby, were just gonna wake-up, yeap
b. We're gonna do now, we're gonna do now, a real old one for you
c. Which we hope you rock to
Conclusion: Lines 3 through 7 in Section D are spliced into "Gimme Shelter" at this point. Jagger would typically ask for the house lights before Little Quennie in '69, and these particular words were sliced-in from Oakland, November 9, 1969 2nd show! There is an edit to Line 6 in the Gimme Shelter Movie where they delete the line:
"we haven't really dressed-up that much but..."
The Maysles taped the "LIVEr" show, and possibly many other shows early in the tour. "Yeap" is edited out of line a. in "Gimme Shelter'. Lines 3 and 4 in Section IV are spoken just before Honky Tonk Women on "Ya-Ya's". Several "Well all rights" and drum rolls have been edited out of the movie and are included on GYYYO before Honky Tonk Women.
Carol Lyric
The spoken words "Thank you" between Carol and Stray Cat Blues are from MSG 11/27/69 just before Honky Tonk Women. This particular "Thank you" is distinguishable by it's nasal and accentuated intonation by Jagger.
Stray Cat Blues Lyric
The "well all right" between Stray Cat Blues and Love In Vain on GYYYO is a splice. The "well all rights" usually came before Honky Tonk Women, but this one is not the same as those that precede HTW on "Ya-Ya's from 11/28/69 1st. You can even hear the double picked strum in open G (G & d notes) that would normally begin HTW. I believe this is from 11/28/69 2nd, but there is a tape stop here on the audience source and no in-between words. It's not Baltimore 11/26/69, MSG 11/27/69, Palm Beach 11/30/69, or Altamont 12/6/69.
Love In Vain Lyric
Our first introduction to the "crowd mic." in the left channel.
Lady in the audience: "yes...love Jesus"
Interestingly enough, the audience tape of 11/28/69 2nd is near the audience mic. that was used for the recording of "Ya-Ya's"! Perhaps located near the soundboard. The crowd was "electric" that evening, the audience participation you hear during the song is absolutely for real.
The spoken words between Love In Vain and Midnight Rambler are from MSG 11/28/69 2nd show as follows:
Line 1: Thank You
Line 2: Ah well
Line 3: We're gonna do a new one for you
Line 4: Which you haven't received yet all right, and it's called Midnight Rambler
(The studio version from "Let It Bleed" was released in the US in November, 1969, so it may have been completely unknown to those who had not attended previous shows depending on the distribution of the LP at the time)
Line 5: Ooh ya, well I'm a talkin' 'bout the Midnight Rambler
Line 6: Everybody got to go
Lines 1 through 4 have been edited out of GYYYO.
Midnight Rambler Lyric
Background words spoken between Midnight Rambler and SFD on GYYYO:
Woman in the crowd: (left channel)
Keith...Paint It Black..Paint It Black
Jagger off-mic.: (right channel)
"I'm ready"
Woman in the crowd: (left channel)
Paint It Black you Devils...Do Paint It Black
She was in attendance at the MSG 11/28/69 2nd show performance.
Sympathy for the Devil Lyric
The in-between words spoken are as follows:
Well all right
You having a good time?
There is a tape stop before LWM on the 11/28/69 audience source, and these words were not spoken on 11/27/69, so it could be 11/28/69 1st or 2nd. Jagger asks the audience if they are having a good time before Satisfaction on 11/27/69, so this may be the point in the show where the lines were extracted from.
Live With Me Lyric
In between words from Live With Me to Little Queenie:
"Aw New York City your talkin' a lot...let's have a look at you".
These same lines are found in the opening words by Jagger in the "Gimme Shelter" movie just before Jumpin' Jack Flash. These spoken words like Jumpin' Jack Flash from "Gimme Shelter" are from 11/28/69 1st show. Additional words before and after this line have been edited out.
Little Queenie Lyric
The words between Little Queenie and Honky Tonk Women:
1. Well all right
2. Well all right
3. Well all right (Feedback)
4. Whoo
5. Well all right
6. Charlie's good tonight inny he
Lines 5 & 6 can also be heard in the Gimme Shelter movie in the Jagger chatter after Jumpin' Jack Flash. I can't conclusively deduce which show the words are from because 11/28/69 2nd has a tape stop in it, so it could precede Honky Tonk Women on either 11/28/69 1st or 2nd, but most likely 11/28/69 1st. It's definitely not 11/27/69.
Honky Tonk Women Lyric
The words between Honky Tonk Women and Street Fighting Man:
We're gonna do one more and we're gonna go - There is a lot of electronic noise present when the these spoken words come into the recording.
These words were not spoken on 11/27/69. There is a tape stop on 11/28/69 2nd, so it could be from 11/28/69 1st, 2nd, or even from Baltimore 11/26/69 since there is no SFM on this recording. I have a simpler explanation, the electronic noise was caused by a sloppy overdub.
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"watch it"
This is an overdub.
Jumpin' Jack Flash Lyric
Analysis of the Spoken Words from Jumpin' Jack Flash to Carol
A. Spoken lines between Jumpin' Jack Flash and Carol from "Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out":
Oh yeah thank you kindly
I think I busted a button on my trousers hope they don't fall down
You don't want my trousers to fall down now do you?
B. Spoken words before Carol MSG 11/27/69:
Line 1: Oh yeah thank you kindly
Line 2: I think I busted a button on my trousers hope they don't fall down
Line 3: It's that jumping around man I have to do it up again...whew
Line 4: You don't want my trousers to fall down now do you?
The spoken words on GYYYO are from MSG 11/27/69 (not necessarily the song!) with line 3 edited out.
C. "Gimme Shelter" Movie
Oh yeah thank you kindly
I think I busted a button on my trousers hope they don't fall down
It's that jumping around man I have to do it up again...whew
You don't want my trousers to fall down now do you?
Clearly taken from MSG 11/27/69 before the start of Carol and spliced in after Honky Tonk Women in the movie. This time unedited.
D. Even though Carol is not included in the "Gimme Shelter" movie the words spoken after Jumpin' Jack Flash would have normally preceded the song:
Line 1: Thank you
Line 2: Whoo baby, we're just gonna wake up
Line 3: Well all right
Line 4: Charlie's good tonight inny he
Line 5: I think you really, you really, dressed up tonight
Line 6: And I think, we'd like to see how you look
Line 7: Can we see how they look?
Line 8: Let's have a look how they look...c'mon
Line 9: Aaww we just wanted to see how they look
Line 10: Aaww we couldn't see you, we couldn't see you...
E. Spoken words before Carol from "Time Trip Volume 4" on Gold Standard (Scorpio).These are the unedited words from MSG 11/28/69 1st that precede the song:
a. Whoo Baby, were just gonna wake-up, yeap
b. We're gonna do now, we're gonna do now, a real old one for you
c. Which we hope you rock to
Conclusion: Lines 3 through 7 in Section D are spliced into "Gimme Shelter" at this point. Jagger would typically ask for the house lights before Little Quennie in '69, and these particular words were sliced-in from Oakland, November 9, 1969 2nd show! There is an edit to Line 6 in the Gimme Shelter Movie where they delete the line:
"we haven't really dressed-up that much but..."
The Maysles taped the "LIVEr" show, and possibly many other shows early in the tour. "Yeap" is edited out of line a. in "Gimme Shelter'. Lines 3 and 4 in Section IV are spoken just before Honky Tonk Women on "Ya-Ya's". Several "Well all rights" and drum rolls have been edited out of the movie and are included on GYYYO before Honky Tonk Women.
Carol Lyric
The spoken words "Thank you" between Carol and Stray Cat Blues are from MSG 11/27/69 just before Honky Tonk Women. This particular "Thank you" is distinguishable by it's nasal and accentuated intonation by Jagger.
Stray Cat Blues Lyric
The "well all right" between Stray Cat Blues and Love In Vain on GYYYO is a splice. The "well all rights" usually came before Honky Tonk Women, but this one is not the same as those that precede HTW on "Ya-Ya's from 11/28/69 1st. You can even hear the double picked strum in open G (G & d notes) that would normally begin HTW. I believe this is from 11/28/69 2nd, but there is a tape stop here on the audience source and no in-between words. It's not Baltimore 11/26/69, MSG 11/27/69, Palm Beach 11/30/69, or Altamont 12/6/69.
Love In Vain Lyric
Our first introduction to the "crowd mic." in the left channel.
Lady in the audience: "yes...love Jesus"
Interestingly enough, the audience tape of 11/28/69 2nd is near the audience mic. that was used for the recording of "Ya-Ya's"! Perhaps located near the soundboard. The crowd was "electric" that evening, the audience participation you hear during the song is absolutely for real.
The spoken words between Love In Vain and Midnight Rambler are from MSG 11/28/69 2nd show as follows:
Line 1: Thank You
Line 2: Ah well
Line 3: We're gonna do a new one for you
Line 4: Which you haven't received yet all right, and it's called Midnight Rambler
(The studio version from "Let It Bleed" was released in the US in November, 1969, so it may have been completely unknown to those who had not attended previous shows depending on the distribution of the LP at the time)
Line 5: Ooh ya, well I'm a talkin' 'bout the Midnight Rambler
Line 6: Everybody got to go
Lines 1 through 4 have been edited out of GYYYO.
Midnight Rambler Lyric
Background words spoken between Midnight Rambler and SFD on GYYYO:
Woman in the crowd: (left channel)
Keith...Paint It Black..Paint It Black
Jagger off-mic.: (right channel)
"I'm ready"
Woman in the crowd: (left channel)
Paint It Black you Devils...Do Paint It Black
She was in attendance at the MSG 11/28/69 2nd show performance.
Sympathy for the Devil Lyric
The in-between words spoken are as follows:
Well all right
You having a good time?
There is a tape stop before LWM on the 11/28/69 audience source, and these words were not spoken on 11/27/69, so it could be 11/28/69 1st or 2nd. Jagger asks the audience if they are having a good time before Satisfaction on 11/27/69, so this may be the point in the show where the lines were extracted from.
Live With Me Lyric
In between words from Live With Me to Little Queenie:
"Aw New York City your talkin' a lot...let's have a look at you".
These same lines are found in the opening words by Jagger in the "Gimme Shelter" movie just before Jumpin' Jack Flash. These spoken words like Jumpin' Jack Flash from "Gimme Shelter" are from 11/28/69 1st show. Additional words before and after this line have been edited out.
Little Queenie Lyric
The words between Little Queenie and Honky Tonk Women:
1. Well all right
2. Well all right
3. Well all right (Feedback)
4. Whoo
5. Well all right
6. Charlie's good tonight inny he
Lines 5 & 6 can also be heard in the Gimme Shelter movie in the Jagger chatter after Jumpin' Jack Flash. I can't conclusively deduce which show the words are from because 11/28/69 2nd has a tape stop in it, so it could precede Honky Tonk Women on either 11/28/69 1st or 2nd, but most likely 11/28/69 1st. It's definitely not 11/27/69.
Honky Tonk Women Lyric
The words between Honky Tonk Women and Street Fighting Man:
We're gonna do one more and we're gonna go - There is a lot of electronic noise present when the these spoken words come into the recording.
These words were not spoken on 11/27/69. There is a tape stop on 11/28/69 2nd, so it could be from 11/28/69 1st, 2nd, or even from Baltimore 11/26/69 since there is no SFM on this recording. I have a simpler explanation, the electronic noise was caused by a sloppy overdub.
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Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
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Date: November 28, 2015 19:35
The "Gimme Shelter" Movie Sources
There are no spoken words before either version of Street Fighting Man in the movie. The first version is preceded by discussion with the late Melvin Belli on the issues with the Altamont locale. The second version is preceded by the details of the Meredith Hunter murder.
There are a few spoken words in the movie that have yet to be identified and they are after Honky Tonk Women and the trouser lines:
Line 1: Hello I got it back...yeah (The vocal dropped out during Honky Tonk Women)
Line 2: Come back to...We're gonna...We're gonna ahh
Line 3: We're gonna kiss you good-bye
Line 4: And we leave you, to kiss each other good-bye
Line 5: And, I can't you real..we're gonna see you..we're gonna see you
Line 6: We're gonna see you..we're gonna see you...again...all right
Line 7: Kiss each other good-bye, sleep, good night
These spoken words are taken from the fateful Altamont concert on 12/6/69 just before Street Fighting Man. Lines 1,2,5,6, and 7 have been edited out of the movie.
The first version of SFM that is heard in "Gimme Shelter" matches the exceptions listed to "Ya-Ya's" from MSG November 28, 1969, 2nd, including the "we gotta go's" in Instrumental Break #2. There is also a second version of the song in the movie, which is a fragment of Street Fighting Man. It's from Altamont, and is traceable by the "My, my, my...my, my, my...ahh yeah" line during Instrumental Break #2. This matches the Altamont December 6, 1969, audience source.
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There are no spoken words before either version of Street Fighting Man in the movie. The first version is preceded by discussion with the late Melvin Belli on the issues with the Altamont locale. The second version is preceded by the details of the Meredith Hunter murder.
There are a few spoken words in the movie that have yet to be identified and they are after Honky Tonk Women and the trouser lines:
Line 1: Hello I got it back...yeah (The vocal dropped out during Honky Tonk Women)
Line 2: Come back to...We're gonna...We're gonna ahh
Line 3: We're gonna kiss you good-bye
Line 4: And we leave you, to kiss each other good-bye
Line 5: And, I can't you real..we're gonna see you..we're gonna see you
Line 6: We're gonna see you..we're gonna see you...again...all right
Line 7: Kiss each other good-bye, sleep, good night
These spoken words are taken from the fateful Altamont concert on 12/6/69 just before Street Fighting Man. Lines 1,2,5,6, and 7 have been edited out of the movie.
The first version of SFM that is heard in "Gimme Shelter" matches the exceptions listed to "Ya-Ya's" from MSG November 28, 1969, 2nd, including the "we gotta go's" in Instrumental Break #2. There is also a second version of the song in the movie, which is a fragment of Street Fighting Man. It's from Altamont, and is traceable by the "My, my, my...my, my, my...ahh yeah" line during Instrumental Break #2. This matches the Altamont December 6, 1969, audience source.
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Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
Posted by:
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Date: November 28, 2015 19:36
A Summary of Sources and Overdubs on "Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!"
Opening words - Sam Cutler: MSG 11/27/69, 11/28/69 1st, and ?
- Opening words - Jagger: "watch it", overdubbed.
1. Jumpin' Jack Flash: Music MSG 11/27/69, vocal overdubbed.
- Spoken Words: MSG 11/27/69, edited.
2. Carol: MSG 11/28/69 1st, Mick Taylor's guitar piece is possibly overdubbed.
- Spoken Words: "Thank You" from MSG 11/27/69.
3. Stray Cat Blues: Music Baltimore 11/26/69, vocals overdubbed. Two musical "markers" were identified. Missing Turnaround Verse #4 ("It's no hangin' mat-tar..."). A lessor possibility: 11/28/69 1st. This is noted due to the "Champaign Variation", which is a close approximation to "Ya-Ya's" lyrics, and therefore a possibility in a live '69 performance.
Spoken Words: Possibly MSG 11/28/69 2nd.
4. Love In Vain: Baltimore 11/26/69, no overdubs.
Spoken Words: MSG 11/28/69 2nd, edited.
5. Midnight Rambler: MSG 11/28/69 2nd, no overdubs.
Spoken Words (Background): - MSG 11/28/69 2nd.
6. Sympathy for the Devil: MSG 11/28/69 1st. Verse #4 is edited out.
Spoken Words: 11/28/69 1st or 2nd possibly before Satisfaction.
7. Live With Me: Music MSG 11/28/69 2nd, vocals overdubbed.
Spoken Words: MSG 11/28/69 1st "Aw New York City..." also in the "Gimme Shelter" movie before Jumpin' Jack Flash.
8. Little Queenie: Music MSG 11/28/69 1st, vocals overdubbed.
Spoken Words: MSG 11/28/69 1st or 2nd. "Well all rights..." also in the "Gimme Shelter" movie after Jumpin' Jack Flash.
9. Honky Tonk Women: Music MSG 11/27/69, vocals overdubbed. Missing the "New York Verse", which would have been Verse #3 in a "Paris Verse" version of the song. Also missing the added chorus that would have separated the two verses.
Spoken Words: Overdubbed (Note the "electronic noise" that is present). A lessor possibility: 11/28/69 1st or 2nd, or Baltimore 11/26/69.
10. Street Fighting Man: Music MSG 11/28/69 1st, vocals overdubbed. A lessor possibility: Music Baltimore 11/26/69, vocals overdubbed.
MSG '69 Tracks from the "Gimme Shelter" movie:
Spoken Words: MSG 11/28/69, 1st show.
1. Jumpin' Jack Flash: MSG 11/28/69, 1st show.
Spoken Words (after JJF): "Thank you, whoo baby..." lines are edited MSG 11/28/69, 1st show. The edited section of "well all rights" are from GYYYO before Honky Tonk Women. The "I think you really, you really dressed up..." section is spliced in from Oakland, November 9, 1969 2nd show.
Spoken Words (before Satisfaction): Opening of MSG 11/28/69 2nd (Third line - "Okay ba-by").
2. Satisfaction: Hybrid/combination of MSG 11/28/69 1st and 11/28/69 2nd. Spliced at Line 10. Chorus #2 and Verse #2 have been edited out of the song.
- Spoken Words: MSG 11/28/69 1st or 2nd
3. Love In Vain: Baltimore 11/26/69. Verse #2 is edited out.
Spoken Words: Opening of MSG 11/28/69 2nd (First two lines- "Far out", "Sorry you had to wait")
4. Honky Tonk Women: Hybrid/combination of MSG 11/27/69 and MSG 11/28/69 2nd. Spliced at Line 8.
Spoken Words: Two sources - MSG 11/27/69 ("Trouser" lines), and Altamont 12/6/69 ("We're gonna kiss you good-bye" lines).
5. Street Fighting Man: MSG 11/28/69, 2nd show. No overdubs.
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Opening words - Sam Cutler: MSG 11/27/69, 11/28/69 1st, and ?
- Opening words - Jagger: "watch it", overdubbed.
1. Jumpin' Jack Flash: Music MSG 11/27/69, vocal overdubbed.
- Spoken Words: MSG 11/27/69, edited.
2. Carol: MSG 11/28/69 1st, Mick Taylor's guitar piece is possibly overdubbed.
- Spoken Words: "Thank You" from MSG 11/27/69.
3. Stray Cat Blues: Music Baltimore 11/26/69, vocals overdubbed. Two musical "markers" were identified. Missing Turnaround Verse #4 ("It's no hangin' mat-tar..."). A lessor possibility: 11/28/69 1st. This is noted due to the "Champaign Variation", which is a close approximation to "Ya-Ya's" lyrics, and therefore a possibility in a live '69 performance.
Spoken Words: Possibly MSG 11/28/69 2nd.
4. Love In Vain: Baltimore 11/26/69, no overdubs.
Spoken Words: MSG 11/28/69 2nd, edited.
5. Midnight Rambler: MSG 11/28/69 2nd, no overdubs.
Spoken Words (Background): - MSG 11/28/69 2nd.
6. Sympathy for the Devil: MSG 11/28/69 1st. Verse #4 is edited out.
Spoken Words: 11/28/69 1st or 2nd possibly before Satisfaction.
7. Live With Me: Music MSG 11/28/69 2nd, vocals overdubbed.
Spoken Words: MSG 11/28/69 1st "Aw New York City..." also in the "Gimme Shelter" movie before Jumpin' Jack Flash.
8. Little Queenie: Music MSG 11/28/69 1st, vocals overdubbed.
Spoken Words: MSG 11/28/69 1st or 2nd. "Well all rights..." also in the "Gimme Shelter" movie after Jumpin' Jack Flash.
9. Honky Tonk Women: Music MSG 11/27/69, vocals overdubbed. Missing the "New York Verse", which would have been Verse #3 in a "Paris Verse" version of the song. Also missing the added chorus that would have separated the two verses.
Spoken Words: Overdubbed (Note the "electronic noise" that is present). A lessor possibility: 11/28/69 1st or 2nd, or Baltimore 11/26/69.
10. Street Fighting Man: Music MSG 11/28/69 1st, vocals overdubbed. A lessor possibility: Music Baltimore 11/26/69, vocals overdubbed.
MSG '69 Tracks from the "Gimme Shelter" movie:
Spoken Words: MSG 11/28/69, 1st show.
1. Jumpin' Jack Flash: MSG 11/28/69, 1st show.
Spoken Words (after JJF): "Thank you, whoo baby..." lines are edited MSG 11/28/69, 1st show. The edited section of "well all rights" are from GYYYO before Honky Tonk Women. The "I think you really, you really dressed up..." section is spliced in from Oakland, November 9, 1969 2nd show.
Spoken Words (before Satisfaction): Opening of MSG 11/28/69 2nd (Third line - "Okay ba-by").
2. Satisfaction: Hybrid/combination of MSG 11/28/69 1st and 11/28/69 2nd. Spliced at Line 10. Chorus #2 and Verse #2 have been edited out of the song.
- Spoken Words: MSG 11/28/69 1st or 2nd
3. Love In Vain: Baltimore 11/26/69. Verse #2 is edited out.
Spoken Words: Opening of MSG 11/28/69 2nd (First two lines- "Far out", "Sorry you had to wait")
4. Honky Tonk Women: Hybrid/combination of MSG 11/27/69 and MSG 11/28/69 2nd. Spliced at Line 8.
Spoken Words: Two sources - MSG 11/27/69 ("Trouser" lines), and Altamont 12/6/69 ("We're gonna kiss you good-bye" lines).
5. Street Fighting Man: MSG 11/28/69, 2nd show. No overdubs.
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Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
Posted by:
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Date: November 28, 2015 19:36
Summary of "Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out!" Recording Information
Six of ten songs are vocal overdubs.
There is one possibility of guitar or instrumental overdubbing.
One song and one instrumental track are from Baltimore 11/26/69.
Two instrumental tracks are from 11/27/69.
Two songs and two instrumental tracks are determined to be 11/28/69 1st, by process of elimination.
One song and one instrumental track are from 11/28/69 2nd.
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Six of ten songs are vocal overdubs.
There is one possibility of guitar or instrumental overdubbing.
One song and one instrumental track are from Baltimore 11/26/69.
Two instrumental tracks are from 11/27/69.
Two songs and two instrumental tracks are determined to be 11/28/69 1st, by process of elimination.
One song and one instrumental track are from 11/28/69 2nd.
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Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
Posted by:
Hairball
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Date: November 29, 2015 02:43
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While they're all standout tracks, I should qualify that by saying I'm probably in the minority in thinking the Chuck Berry covers aren't the greatest.
A bit slow and sludgy, and although Keith's riffs are essential, hard to top the Chuck originals imo.
With that said, they're party of the overall vibe and what makes the album great, therefore they are standouts.
I love those Chuck Berry tracks, especially Little Queenie. I think the slowing down of it, and the heavy riffing each time after Mick sings: "Meanwhile, I was stiiiiiil thinking", all add to make it sound very dirty.
Whereas the original Chuck Berry version is naughty: a man excited by looking at a pretty girl, the Stones turn it into a very dark, horny, dirty, almost pornographic thing. "Meanwhile, I was thinking..." and you almost hesitate to imagine what he's thinking about.
Valid opinion, thanks for the explanation.
I think you're imagination has run amok in the gutter - sounds like you're almost describing Aqualung by Jethro Tull!
"Sitting on a park bench
Eyeing little girls
With bad intent.
Snot running down his nose
Greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes..."
As I said, both standout tracks within the context of the album, but alone can't hold a candle to the originals.
(For what it's worth, I don't think there's any Stones covers that are better than the originals - except maybe Time is on My Side).
ps - thanks to GasLightStreet for all the detailed documentation posted above.
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Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
Posted by:
Redhotcarpet
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Date: November 29, 2015 09:40
Thank you Doxa, great post.
Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
Posted by:
DancelittleSister
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Date: November 29, 2015 15:53
The kind of Stones album good enough to introduce them to extraterrestrial intelligence.
Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
Posted by:
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Date: November 29, 2015 18:10
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It's a very overrated album, which I rarely listen to. However I still think it's a decent document of the time and it has the best album cover of any Stones record.
Jumping Jack Flash: 8/10
Carol: 5/10
Stray Cat Blues: 7/10
Love In Vain: 5/10
Midnight Rambler: 7/10
Sympathy For The Devil: 6/10
Live With Me: 8/10
Little Queenie: 6/10
Honky Tonk Women: 5/10
Street Fighting Man: 5/10
Prodigal Son: 7/10
You Gotta Move: 6/10
Under My Thumb: 4/10
I'm Free: 6/10
(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction: 4/10
+1
With Exception of Stray Cat Blues 9/10, Midnight Rambler 9/10 and Satisfaction 9/10
Every review that rates Love In Vain and Sympathy from YaYas as "5/10" and "6/10", not to speak of others (Midnight Rambler: "6/10" - bah!) qualifies as nothing more than pure rubbish and shows little love and understanding for Stones music. Sorry if I sound harsh, but such ridiculousness can hardly be topped.
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Date: November 29, 2015 18:45
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It's a very overrated album, which I rarely listen to. However I still think it's a decent document of the time and it has the best album cover of any Stones record.
Jumping Jack Flash: 8/10
Carol: 5/10
Stray Cat Blues: 7/10
Love In Vain: 5/10
Midnight Rambler: 7/10
Sympathy For The Devil: 6/10
Live With Me: 8/10
Little Queenie: 6/10
Honky Tonk Women: 5/10
Street Fighting Man: 5/10
Prodigal Son: 7/10
You Gotta Move: 6/10
Under My Thumb: 4/10
I'm Free: 6/10
(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction: 4/10
+1
With Exception of Stray Cat Blues 9/10, Midnight Rambler 9/10 and Satisfaction 9/10
Every review that rates Love In Vain and Sympathy from YaYas as "5/10" and "6/10", not to speak of others (Midnight Rambler: "6/10" - bah!) qualifies as nothing more than pure rubbish and shows little love and understanding for Stones music. Sorry if I sound harsh, but such ridiculousness can hardly be topped.
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Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: November 29, 2015 18:58
One cannot give LIV 9/10 when there are other superior versions out there (The studio version, Leeds 71, Texas 72, Texas 78 etc.).
Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
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Date: November 29, 2015 19:07
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It's a very overrated album, which I rarely listen to. However I still think it's a decent document of the time and it has the best album cover of any Stones record.
Jumping Jack Flash: 8/10
Carol: 5/10
Stray Cat Blues: 7/10
Love In Vain: 5/10
Midnight Rambler: 7/10
Sympathy For The Devil: 6/10
Live With Me: 8/10
Little Queenie: 6/10
Honky Tonk Women: 5/10
Street Fighting Man: 5/10
Prodigal Son: 7/10
You Gotta Move: 6/10
Under My Thumb: 4/10
I'm Free: 6/10
(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction: 4/10
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With Exception of Stray Cat Blues 9/10, Midnight Rambler 9/10 and Satisfaction 9/10
Every review that rates Love In Vain and Sympathy from YaYas as "5/10" and "6/10", not to speak of others (Midnight Rambler: "6/10" - bah!) qualifies as nothing more than pure rubbish and shows little love and understanding for Stones music. Sorry if I sound harsh, but such ridiculousness can hardly be topped.
I prefer just to listen to the music instead thinking about if I'm considered a loving listener or not.
JFF, Stray Cat Blues and Live With Me are the only tracks I would consider to be ''great'' on Ya Ya's while many songs on LYL and No Security are fantastic in every possible way. The fact that Ya Ya's is a decent album which is massively overrated by Stones fans remains.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2015-11-29 19:14 by TheBlockbuster.
Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
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Turner68
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Date: November 29, 2015 19:09
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One cannot give LIV 9/10 when there are other superior versions out there (The studio version, Leeds 71, Texas 72, Texas 78 etc.).
That statement is logically incorrect
It it possible for there to be 10 or even 100 10/10 versions of a song if it is consistently played at the highest possible quality.
The performance on YaYas is flawless. Not saying it is the best, but that's different.
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Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
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GasLightStreet
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Date: November 29, 2015 19:19
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While they're all standout tracks, I should qualify that by saying I'm probably in the minority in thinking the Chuck Berry covers aren't the greatest.
A bit slow and sludgy, and although Keith's riffs are essential, hard to top the Chuck originals imo.
With that said, they're party of the overall vibe and what makes the album great, therefore they are standouts.
I love those Chuck Berry tracks, especially Little Queenie. I think the slowing down of it, and the heavy riffing each time after Mick sings: "Meanwhile, I was stiiiiiil thinking", all add to make it sound very dirty.
Whereas the original Chuck Berry version is naughty: a man excited by looking at a pretty girl, the Stones turn it into a very dark, horny, dirty, almost pornographic thing. "Meanwhile, I was thinking..." and you almost hesitate to imagine what he's thinking about.
The Stones doing Chuck Berry songs... Chuck Berry's versions are bettered by the Stones. I've yet to hear a Chuck song be as good as the way the Stones did it. It's strange to say that but I think the Stones are better at Chuck Berry than Chuck Berry is!
Keith is way more detailed in the playing where as Chuck, he's just thinkin' about the money and bum notes be damned. Listen to his Around And Around and then the Stones... there's some awful notes in Chuck's version. The Stones? They make that song burn with fire.
The two Chuck Berry songs on GYYYO are supreme - yeah, they are slower; they're mean. They are deliberately heavy. Because it sounds fantastic.
Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
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Hairball
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Date: November 29, 2015 19:50
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Hairball
While they're all standout tracks, I should qualify that by saying I'm probably in the minority in thinking the Chuck Berry covers aren't the greatest.
A bit slow and sludgy, and although Keith's riffs are essential, hard to top the Chuck originals imo.
With that said, they're party of the overall vibe and what makes the album great, therefore they are standouts.
I love those Chuck Berry tracks, especially Little Queenie. I think the slowing down of it, and the heavy riffing each time after Mick sings: "Meanwhile, I was stiiiiiil thinking", all add to make it sound very dirty.
Whereas the original Chuck Berry version is naughty: a man excited by looking at a pretty girl, the Stones turn it into a very dark, horny, dirty, almost pornographic thing. "Meanwhile, I was thinking..." and you almost hesitate to imagine what he's thinking about.
The Stones doing Chuck Berry songs... Chuck Berry's versions are bettered by the Stones. I've yet to hear a Chuck song be as good as the way the Stones did it. It's strange to say that but I think the Stones are better at Chuck Berry than Chuck Berry is!
Keith is way more detailed in the playing where as Chuck, he's just thinkin' about the money and bum notes be damned. Listen to his Around And Around and then the Stones... there's some awful notes in Chuck's version. The Stones? They make that song burn with fire.
The two Chuck Berry songs on GYYYO are supreme - yeah, they are slower; they're mean. They are deliberately heavy. Because it sounds fantastic.
Agree regarding the Stones version of Around and Around being wickedly great - those early live versions (studio version as well) are something to behold.
That probably comes as close to topping Chuck Berry as the Stones ever have, but still think the CB original is superior.
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Re: LIVE ALBUM TALK: Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out
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Date: November 29, 2015 19:59
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DandelionPowderman
One cannot give LIV 9/10 when there are other superior versions out there (The studio version, Leeds 71, Texas 72, Texas 78 etc.).
That statement is logically incorrect
It it possible for there to be 10 or even 100 10/10 versions of a song if it is consistently played at the highest possible quality.
The performance on YaYas is flawless. Not saying it is the best, but that's different.
Maybe so, but you're wrong about it being flawless. It is a very good version, though, like I said in my review (7/10).
To people hinting that others (me included?) "don't understand" or "don't show the love" for what you think is excellent: Get real
People like different things.A little hint: Mick's LIV vocals were perfected between 1971-1978, where he gradually added more dynamics to the song. The vocalist's performance is not without importance for how we rate it...
AND: A song doesn't get 10/10 from me because of guitar solos alone.
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