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DandelionPowderman
Did anyone critise SFTD on Ya Yas? If so, that's baffling indeed.
The only thing to criticise is that we didn't get the full song!
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DandelionPowderman
Did anyone critise SFTD on Ya Yas? If so, that's baffling indeed.
The only thing to criticise is that we didn't get the full song!
Yeah, somewhere up in the thread.
Re. the edit: I actually wanted to mention that. While I normally hate edits, I like it for this particular version.
That might be only because I started listening to Ya-Ya's at age 8. So I always knew the Ya-Yas version like this; unquestioned. Took me years to even know there was an edit.
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DandelionPowderman
I've been listening to Carol and Midnight Rambler only (Ya Yas) endlessly now for the last weeks, trying to memorise the lyrics. Mick's lyrics are fvcked up anyway - it's amazing how much he flubs without me noticing it before now
Well, that might say something about our setlist on Saturday
Me too, every word to here is true for me, first played in 1971,I bought the LP after I saw gimme shelter, the movie. OMG !Quote
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DandelionPowderman
Did anyone critise SFTD on Ya Yas? If so, that's baffling indeed.
The only thing to criticise is that we didn't get the full song!
Yeah, somewhere up in the thread.
Re. the edit: I actually wanted to mention that. While I normally hate edits, I like it for this particular version.
That might be only because I started listening to Ya-Ya's at age 8. So I always knew the Ya-Yas version like this; unquestioned. Took me years to even know there was an edit.
If Ya Ya's was THE album that made me a Stones fan, that version of Sympathy is THE song that really did it. In fact, this was the first time I ever heard Sympathy For The Devil and it blew me away. Everything about it is genius. Keith Richards' guitar figures against Taylor's rhythm during the verses, Keith's simple but sinister solo, dropping back to rhythm, thrashing away as if possessed, as Taylor takes over and tears it up; it took me to another universe. I feel like an old man longing for bygone days. Perhaps I am....
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Javadave
My favorite live Stones record.
As they were recording that whole MSG run on the Mobile Unit for potential release, I have long hoped for an expanded "Deluxe" edition.
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Javadave
My favorite live Stones record.
As they were recording that whole MSG run on the Mobile Unit for potential release, I have long hoped for an expanded "Deluxe" edition.
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It's an overrated album in my book, HTW, SFT and LWM on this album are among the worst officially released versions of those songs.
Love You Live has more aggression and energy, compare the version of HTW on both albums and it's night and day.
SFT? No idea.
Live With Me is exceptional - it's a completely different song than the LP version - and much better. Since you said among the worst officially released versions, I'm guessing you think the 1995 B-side and NO SECURITY versions of Live With Me are in that category as well since those are the other two official live versions.
Nothing will ever beat Honky Tonk Women on LOVE YOU LIVE but the one on GYYYO is pretty good.
Well maybe if you explore the other 6 or so official live versions of Live With you will change your mind.
Live With Me featuring Christina Aguilera from Shine A Light is the worst one yet. The one on GYYO! is the second worst. The versions on for instance Light The Fuse and Totally Stripped displays a much tighter and energetic band.
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I remember a couple of live albums I´ve listened to at the time I first experienced Get Yer Ya Ya´s Out (around 1982) and all of them I enjoyed a lot more (and still do):
The Doors - Absolutely Live
Ten Years After - Recorded Live
Ozzy Osbourne - Speak Of The Devil
David Bowie - David Live
Bob Dylan - At Budokan
Deep Purple - Made In Japan
Favoring Ozzy over Ya Ya's? I'm speechless.
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MileHigh
I think that Love You Live has taken on a certain appeal with age, but when it came out it was a disappointment. I suppose there is a quasi "Exile story arc" for Love You Live.
GYYYO rules, simple as that. Not a bad song to be found. The tension-release, tension-release vibe of Street Fighting Man is brilliant. The whole album is brilliant and the "signature Stones swing" song on the album is Little Queenie.
There are very few albums that I can play back like a tape recorder in my head, and most of GYYYO is like that for me.
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DandelionPowderman
I've been listening to Carol and Midnight Rambler only (Ya Yas) endlessly now for the last weeks, trying to memorise the lyrics. Mick's lyrics are fvcked up anyway - it's amazing how much he flubs without me noticing it before now
Well, that might say something about our setlist on Saturday
Yeah - he did mess up a lot in the era before teleprompters! I remember when they did Street Fighting Man in Philly 1981. It was a trainwreck musically plus I think Mick got almost every verse totally wrong!
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It's an overrated album in my book, HTW, SFT and LWM on this album are among the worst officially released versions of those songs.
Love You Live has more aggression and energy, compare the version of HTW on both albums and it's night and day.
SFT? No idea.
Live With Me is exceptional - it's a completely different song than the LP version - and much better. Since you said among the worst officially released versions, I'm guessing you think the 1995 B-side and NO SECURITY versions of Live With Me are in that category as well since those are the other two official live versions.
Nothing will ever beat Honky Tonk Women on LOVE YOU LIVE but the one on GYYYO is pretty good.
Well maybe if you explore the other 6 or so official live versions of Live With you will change your mind.
Live With Me featuring Christina Aguilera from Shine A Light is the worst one yet. The one on GYYO! is the second worst. The versions on for instance Light The Fuse and Totally Stripped displays a much tighter and energetic band.
I've heard them. The Wild Horses B-side version is decent and slightly better than the NO SECURITY version but nothing compares to the monster performance from GET YER YA-YA'S OUT!. Anything from the BANG tour is going to be bad, especially SHINE A LIGHT.
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I think that Love You Live has taken on a certain appeal with age, but when it came out it was a disappointment. I suppose there is a quasi "Exile story arc" for Love You Live.
GYYYO rules, simple as that. Not a bad song to be found. The tension-release, tension-release vibe of Street Fighting Man is brilliant. The whole album is brilliant and the "signature Stones swing" song on the album is Little Queenie.
There are very few albums that I can play back like a tape recorder in my head, and most of GYYYO is like that for me.
Weird how the 1975-76 tours were huge yet LOVE YOU LIVE is a mess, with some decent songs on it performance wise. In some aspects it's a great live album to listen to for how bad the Stones could be while still pulling it off somehow (Brown Sugar and JJF at 300 mph) and how good they could be with seemingly little effort (Honky Tonk Women, YCAGWYW, the only ever good version of IORR, Star Star and of course the Mocambo tracks).
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DandelionPowderman
I like that «Taylor inspired Hendrix-wannabe».
Not true, of course:
[www.youtube.com]
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in 1970, I was not particularly fond of Live albums. I felt that there were unsuccessful attempts to achieve the LPs successful standard. With time, I changed the perception and much thanks to Frank Zappa, and yes, Ya Yas is the best Live-album ever when it comes to rock'n'roll...
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I like that «Taylor inspired Hendrix-wannabe».
Not true, of course:
[www.youtube.com]
What's not true? The people (HMS) posting about Taylor noodling too much just need to listen to Wood on LA Friday on most of the songs, take Jumping Jack Flash. Whatever it is (manic Hendrix stuff), it isn't executed very well and it's boring.
Wood admitted he took things he liked that Taylor did, Gimme Shelter for example, it's just not up to the standard set tone-wise and execution. He chokes out so many notes on the album I just can't get into his playing.
Angie is another, it loses any touch of grace with his playing. It's like he had no restraint on that tour, except for Wild Horses (which I like except for the phaser Richards used). Snort much?
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DandelionPowderman
I like that «Taylor inspired Hendrix-wannabe».
Not true, of course:
[www.youtube.com]
What's not true? The people (HMS) posting about Taylor noodling too much just need to listen to Wood on LA Friday on most of the songs, take Jumping Jack Flash. Whatever it is (manic Hendrix stuff), it isn't executed very well and it's boring.
Wood admitted he took things he liked that Taylor did, Gimme Shelter for example, it's just not up to the standard set tone-wise and execution. He chokes out so many notes on the album I just can't get into his playing.
Angie is another, it loses any touch of grace with his playing. It's like he had no restraint on that tour, except for Wild Horses (which I like except for the phaser Richards used). Snort much?
Watts, Wyman , Jagger and Richards are great on Hot Stuff here. Ron Wood did what he had to do, playing the riff and (imo) a very average solo. I can only imagine what Taylor would have played. Surely it would have taken hot stuff to a higher level, just like Harvey Mandel did on the studio track.
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DandelionPowderman
I like that «Taylor inspired Hendrix-wannabe».
Not true, of course:
[www.youtube.com]
What's not true? The people (HMS) posting about Taylor noodling too much just need to listen to Wood on LA Friday on most of the songs, take Jumping Jack Flash. Whatever it is (manic Hendrix stuff), it isn't executed very well and it's boring.
Wood admitted he took things he liked that Taylor did, Gimme Shelter for example, it's just not up to the standard set tone-wise and execution. He chokes out so many notes on the album I just can't get into his playing.
Angie is another, it loses any touch of grace with his playing. It's like he had no restraint on that tour, except for Wild Horses (which I like except for the phaser Richards used). Snort much?
Watts, Wyman , Jagger and Richards are great on Hot Stuff here. Ron Wood did what he had to do, playing the riff and (imo) a very average solo. I can only imagine what Taylor would have played. Surely it would have taken hot stuff to a higher level, just like Harvey Mandel did on the studio track.
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DandelionPowderman
I like that «Taylor inspired Hendrix-wannabe».
Not true, of course:
[www.youtube.com]
What's not true? The people (HMS) posting about Taylor noodling too much just need to listen to Wood on LA Friday on most of the songs, take Jumping Jack Flash. Whatever it is (manic Hendrix stuff), it isn't executed very well and it's boring.
Wood admitted he took things he liked that Taylor did, Gimme Shelter for example, it's just not up to the standard set tone-wise and execution. He chokes out so many notes on the album I just can't get into his playing.
Angie is another, it loses any touch of grace with his playing. It's like he had no restraint on that tour, except for Wild Horses (which I like except for the phaser Richards used). Snort much?
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DandelionPowderman
I like that «Taylor inspired Hendrix-wannabe».
Not true, of course:
[www.youtube.com]
What's not true? The people (HMS) posting about Taylor noodling too much just need to listen to Wood on LA Friday on most of the songs, take Jumping Jack Flash. Whatever it is (manic Hendrix stuff), it isn't executed very well and it's boring.
Wood admitted he took things he liked that Taylor did, Gimme Shelter for example, it's just not up to the standard set tone-wise and execution. He chokes out so many notes on the album I just can't get into his playing.
Angie is another, it loses any touch of grace with his playing. It's like he had no restraint on that tour, except for Wild Horses (which I like except for the phaser Richards used). Snort much?
It's the comparison that isn’t valid. Woody is Woody. He already had developed his own sound from the Faces. That is true, whether one likes his sound or not..
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DandelionPowderman
I like that «Taylor inspired Hendrix-wannabe».
Not true, of course:
[www.youtube.com]
What's not true? The people (HMS) posting about Taylor noodling too much just need to listen to Wood on LA Friday on most of the songs, take Jumping Jack Flash. Whatever it is (manic Hendrix stuff), it isn't executed very well and it's boring.
Wood admitted he took things he liked that Taylor did, Gimme Shelter for example, it's just not up to the standard set tone-wise and execution. He chokes out so many notes on the album I just can't get into his playing.
Angie is another, it loses any touch of grace with his playing. It's like he had no restraint on that tour, except for Wild Horses (which I like except for the phaser Richards used). Snort much?
It's the comparison that isn’t valid. Woody is Woody. He already had developed his own sound from the Faces. That is true, whether one likes his sound or not..
Agree. Woody is Woody and he has his own style. He did a great job on his debut tour in 1975. He did try to cop some of Taylor's licks, but I feel he made them his own. As a guitarist myself, I'm well aware that Taylor is the more skillful player, but I've always been very fond of Woody's ragged-but-right rock and roll sound.
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DandelionPowderman
I like that «Taylor inspired Hendrix-wannabe».
Not true, of course:
[www.youtube.com]
What's not true? The people (HMS) posting about Taylor noodling too much just need to listen to Wood on LA Friday on most of the songs, take Jumping Jack Flash. Whatever it is (manic Hendrix stuff), it isn't executed very well and it's boring.
Wood admitted he took things he liked that Taylor did, Gimme Shelter for example, it's just not up to the standard set tone-wise and execution. He chokes out so many notes on the album I just can't get into his playing.
Angie is another, it loses any touch of grace with his playing. It's like he had no restraint on that tour, except for Wild Horses (which I like except for the phaser Richards used). Snort much?
It's the comparison that isn’t valid. Woody is Woody. He already had developed his own sound from the Faces. That is true, whether one likes his sound or not..
Agree. Woody is Woody and he has his own style. He did a great job on his debut tour in 1975. He did try to cop some of Taylor's licks, but I feel he made them his own. As a guitarist myself, I'm well aware that Taylor is the more skillful player, but I've always been very fond of Woody's ragged-but-right rock and roll sound.
Ron Wood, can often surprise me; yes - in my mind he is in the'raggedy-rhytmic-bluesy' type dept. But then he will just come out and shake off some effortless run that leaves me speechless. "Hot Stuff" is not the best song to judge lead-guitar playing on. It's a rhythmic groove song. Although - I agree 100%, that had this song appeared while Taylor was in the band in his heyday, MT would have found a way to transform this song.