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Honestly I don't think the album will already come out this year. It's just too much work.
It's not just the work the stones have to do (writing songs, doing arrangements, recording the basic tracks, recording overdubs),
but also editing, mixing, mastering, and all the things to prepare the release.
Although I would love to be proven wrong.

What takes forever with these guys
Writing
Arranging
Recording basic tracks
Overdubs

What probably does not take long with these guys
Editing is (usually) done after tracking and sometimes overdubbing, before mixing.
Mixing

What can be done in one day
Mastering - takes just a couple of hours at best.

Pre-release hype
There are so many people involved with hype that it's no big deal

Release
Irrelevant. It'll be on every medium, just like most releases are these days

Relevance
It will be forgotten within a month...

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Recording sessions: ca. 3rd - 16th December 2015: London, Metropolis Studios (unconfirmed);
Title: ??
Lable: ??
Release date: june? september?
Producer: Mick/Keith and Chris Kimsey?
Tracklist: ??

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KRiffhard
Recording sessions: ca. 3rd - 16th December 2015: London, Metropolis Studios (unconfirmed);
Title: ??
Lable: ??
Release date: june? september?
Producer: Mick/Keith and Chris Kimsey?
Tracklist: ??

Don was in the studio with them in december.

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GasLightStreet

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StonedRambler
Honestly I don't think the album will already come out this year. It's just too much work.
It's not just the work the stones have to do (writing songs, doing arrangements, recording the basic tracks, recording overdubs),
but also editing, mixing, mastering, and all the things to prepare the release.
Although I would love to be proven wrong.

What takes forever with these guys
Writing
Arranging
Recording basic tracks
Overdubs

What probably does not take long with these guys
Editing is (usually) done after tracking and sometimes overdubbing, before mixing.
Mixing

What can be done in one day
Mastering - takes just a couple of hours at best.

Pre-release hype
There are so many people involved with hype that it's no big deal

Release
Irrelevant. It'll be on every medium, just like most releases are these days

Relevance
It will be forgotten within a month...

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gotdablouse
Why would Mick get rid of a producer who let him get away with material like "She Saw Me Coming" or a bassist called...Mick Jagger ;-)

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KRiffhard

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gwen

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KRiffhard
Recording sessions: ca. 3rd - 16th December 2015: London, Metropolis Studios (unconfirmed);
Title: ??
Lable: ??
Release date: june? september?
Producer: Mick/Keith and Chris Kimsey?
Tracklist: ??

Don was in the studio with them in december.

Oh no...are you sure Gwen?

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gwen

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KRiffhard

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gwen

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KRiffhard
Recording sessions: ca. 3rd - 16th December 2015: London, Metropolis Studios (unconfirmed);
Title: ??
Lable: ??
Release date: june? september?
Producer: Mick/Keith and Chris Kimsey?
Tracklist: ??

Don was in the studio with them in december.

Oh no...are you sure Gwen?

I wasnt in the studio thats what i was told.

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gotdablouse
Why would Mick get rid of a producer who let him get away with material like "She Saw Me Coming" or a bassist called...Mick Jagger ;-)

She saw me coming, Sweet Neo Con and Look what the cat dragged in...only a yes man can accept poor stuff like this.

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GasLightStreet
She Saw Me Coming... why does that get so much grief? Fantastic grinding riff, it's a funny song, for once some humor - and one of the good songs on ABB.

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GasLightStreet
She Saw Me Coming... why does that get so much grief? Fantastic grinding riff, it's a funny song, for once some humor - and one of the good songs on ABB.

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Rocky Dijon
Every time Don Was has produced the band, the sessions have had their own unique character. He does not get the same sound. As for charges of being a yes man, he's the yes man who told Mick to drop the experimental songs from VOODOO LOUNGE; he's the yes man who convinced Mick to let Keith have three lead vocals on BRIDGES TO BABYLON; he's the yes man who brought Mr. Taylor into the studio with Mr. Jagger and neglected to tell Mr. Richards; he's the yes man who told Mick "Doom and Gloom" was the good song and his other songwriting efforts weren't up to par. One may not like him as a producer, but he isn't a yes man and he doesn't produce the same sound out of the band each time.

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Maindefender
With all the free time between show dates in SA could Mick and Keith still be working on the album as we speak?

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powerage78
Nothing can be worst than the awful "Streets of love"...

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mpj200
I'd be cool if the recorded some old blues songs along with some originals. Guess we will see next year hopefully.

Oh, really, eh? 2017 then it is. So no new LP this year then by your accord? The funny thing is... you may be right.

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gotdablouse
Why would Mick get rid of a producer who let him get away with material like "She Saw Me Coming" or a bassist called...Mick Jagger ;-)

She saw me coming, Sweet Neo Con and Look what the cat dragged in...only a yes man can accept poor stuff like this.

I like all three!
Look What The Cat Dragged In was love at first sight, Sweet Neo Con lately has grown immensely on me and She Saw Me Coming is also very very enjoyable. According to some opinions here the Stones should be ashamed of ABB, I can´t see the slightest reason for it. They can be proud to have released an album like ABB this late in their career. It´s not their best album of course, but it is very vital and their best album since Dirty Work. After SW, VL and B2B I was positively surprised.

Is Don Was a yes man? Well, maybe he is. But it is hard to imagine someone telling Mick or Keith "to be honest, your demos are crap". I can´t imagine anybody doing this.

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GasLightStreet
Ha ha! Just checkin' to see if you were really saying 2017... it'll be 2017.

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mailexile67
New album out in the fall (September or so...) with a North American major cities Tour then in 2017 Europe and Australasia Tour till 2018 with a comeback in North America or Europe...

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Rocky Dijon
Every time Don Was has produced the band, the sessions have had their own unique character. He does not get the same sound. As for charges of being a yes man, he's the yes man who told Mick to drop the experimental songs from VOODOO LOUNGE; he's the yes man who convinced Mick to let Keith have three lead vocals on BRIDGES TO BABYLON; he's the yes man who brought Mr. Taylor into the studio with Mr. Jagger and neglected to tell Mr. Richards; he's the yes man who told Mick "Doom and Gloom" was the good song and his other songwriting efforts weren't up to par. One may not like him as a producer, but he isn't a yes man and he doesn't produce the same sound out of the band each time.

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Rocky Dijon
Every time Don Was has produced the band, the sessions have had their own unique character. He does not get the same sound. As for charges of being a yes man, he's the yes man who told Mick to drop the experimental songs from VOODOO LOUNGE; he's the yes man who convinced Mick to let Keith have three lead vocals on BRIDGES TO BABYLON; he's the yes man who brought Mr. Taylor into the studio with Mr. Jagger and neglected to tell Mr. Richards; he's the yes man who told Mick "Doom and Gloom" was the good song and his other songwriting efforts weren't up to par. One may not like him as a producer, but he isn't a yes man and he doesn't produce the same sound out of the band each time.

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Don Was lets Mick and Keith and the band do what they want most of the time <BUT> he does, and has put his foot down. For example Mick wanted to go into the studio to record for Voodoo Lounge and Was insisted he and Keith write together and have the songs finished before getting to the studio <to assure the songs could stand on their own as good songs>.

Don Was generally is a laid back, Truce Keeper, <a mediator> ..a quiet type of producer that eases tensions. With that said.. his production work with The Stones as you noted has been truly stellar. Each album has its own unique vibe, and different sound (as you pointed out) and each is <quality>.

His work with other acts is fantastic as well. Avenue B (Iggy Pop).... The Black Crowes Lions (simply fantastic..and I dont even really care for The Black Crows). those are just a few of many. dw HAS great intellect and insight. He is a very smart bloke.. and he never lets the band down. Don Was is ..IMO over all the best producer in music. He can create an edge w/o it sounding dated or forced...it just sounds <quality> .. yet he is easily very very classicist when the situation calls for it. What I like about him is he is sort of 'under the radar' (no pun ha) as far as glitz and Hollywood notoriety. As someone once noted.. Don Was is not a guy who gets his face on all kinds of publications and publications dont always go too far over the top in referring to him. The reason for this is as someone once mentioned to me about his <under the radar> persona .... he is a 'professional'.


Ian