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Re: ALBUM TALK: Emotional Rescue
Posted by: powerage78 ()
Date: October 28, 2024 14:47

I love the eponymous track.

***
I'm just a Bad Boy Boogie

Re: ALBUM TALK: Emotional Rescue
Date: October 28, 2024 15:32

Leaving Hackney Diamonds unopened on your dining room table is your loss, no one else's. As well as being peculiar behaviour. It's a great album. Unlike any of the others since 1994, but of course you'll never know that.
ER is really good, but has more duff tracks than HD...

Re: Who is on the cover of Emotional Rescue?
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: October 28, 2024 15:58

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SomeGuy
I like the cover, actually. Some Stones covers are worse than this one, methinks.

A couple of years ago I pointed out that apparently many people here didn't get the inner sleeve with the lyrics printed on it, like I did (plus the poster of course). The Virgin remaster (paper sleeve reproduction) didn't have the inner sleeve, as the more recent vinyl edition box set didn't.

Just to remind:

[www.discogs.com]

[www.discogs.com]

Was this a European release? I've opened 2 original Emotional Rescue's through the years and they only had a plain white inner, no lyrics, poster wrapped on the outside.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Emotional Rescue
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: October 28, 2024 19:57

Quote
matxil
I can see how at that time people found the cover ugly, but over time I don't think it's so bad. It's certainly not their worst. Ever since Tattoo You, their album covers have been much much worse than ER.
I guess the same goes for the music. Not as great as Some Girls. Certainly not as great as Tattoo You, but in many ways it's an enjoyable album, it feels like a unit, and rather pleasant to listen to, compared to the post Tattoo You albums.
(Not to say that the post Tattoo You don't have their moments.)

UNDERCOVER was their last good/great album cover, to me, in terms of content, and it oddly matches the sound of the album, ha ha, at least to/for me it does. Since then they've been horrific. They gave up caring about the art of the album cover. BRIDGES is interesting and not as stupidly cartoony like VOODOO but ever since DIRTY WORK they've been the bottom of the pile. From IORR through U it was a great run of artwork for the LP covers.

EOMS and GHS are a bit off compared to BB-SF, although the messiness of EOMS indeed goes with the music.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Emotional Rescue
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: October 28, 2024 20:04

Quote
Chacho
I bought the "Hackney Diamonds" CD and after
several months it is still sitting on my dining
room table, unopened, and wrapped in it's original
cellophane. I have not had a desire to listen to
it, knowing what the last several Stones albums were
like, from 1994 to the present. This was not the
case with "Emotional Rescue", which was opened and
listened to immediately after purchasing.

Since you haven't listened to it, as that reads, then you don't know what they sound like "to the present".

What a weird thing to say.

If your context that keeps you from listening to the new LP is VOODOO-BRIDGES-BANG then you're way out of touch.

You need to open up HACKNEY DIAMONDS and play it. It's excellent.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Emotional Rescue
Posted by: Chacho ()
Date: October 29, 2024 03:26

OK, I'll open it up and listen to it!
But what I was saying is that, in my
opinion, The Stones have a bad record
over the past 30 years as far as album
releases go, compared to "Emotional
Rescue".



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2024-10-29 03:41 by Chacho.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Emotional Rescue
Posted by: matxil ()
Date: October 29, 2024 11:26

Quote
GasLightStreet
Quote
matxil
I can see how at that time people found the cover ugly, but over time I don't think it's so bad. It's certainly not their worst. Ever since Tattoo You, their album covers have been much much worse than ER.
I guess the same goes for the music. Not as great as Some Girls. Certainly not as great as Tattoo You, but in many ways it's an enjoyable album, it feels like a unit, and rather pleasant to listen to, compared to the post Tattoo You albums.
(Not to say that the post Tattoo You don't have their moments.)

UNDERCOVER was their last good/great album cover, to me, in terms of content, and it oddly matches the sound of the album, ha ha, at least to/for me it does. Since then they've been horrific. They gave up caring about the art of the album cover. BRIDGES is interesting and not as stupidly cartoony like VOODOO but ever since DIRTY WORK they've been the bottom of the pile. From IORR through U it was a great run of artwork for the LP covers.

EOMS and GHS are a bit off compared to BB-SF, although the messiness of EOMS indeed goes with the music.

You're right that the cover (and the music minus 4 songs) of Undercover is not so bad either. I think EOMS is one of their best covers and indeed very appropriate for the music.
I don't know why they stopped caring about the covers after U. Because people don't care about albums anyway?

Re: Who is on the cover of Emotional Rescue?
Posted by: SomeGuy ()
Date: October 30, 2024 01:21

Quote
treaclefingers
Quote
SomeGuy
I like the cover, actually. Some Stones covers are worse than this one, methinks.

A couple of years ago I pointed out that apparently many people here didn't get the inner sleeve with the lyrics printed on it, like I did (plus the poster of course). The Virgin remaster (paper sleeve reproduction) didn't have the inner sleeve, as the more recent vinyl edition box set didn't.

Just to remind:

[www.discogs.com]

[www.discogs.com]

Was this a European release? I've opened 2 original Emotional Rescue's through the years and they only had a plain white inner, no lyrics, poster wrapped on the outside.

I believe it was a German release only. Also, some other LPs had lyric sheets that American releases didn't have, either (Some Girls, Tattoo You, Undercover and Black And Blue).

Re: ALBUM TALK: Emotional Rescue
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: October 30, 2024 01:26





ROCKMAN

Re: ALBUM TALK: Emotional Rescue
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: October 30, 2024 07:03

Quote
matxil
Quote
GasLightStreet
Quote
matxil
I can see how at that time people found the cover ugly, but over time I don't think it's so bad. It's certainly not their worst. Ever since Tattoo You, their album covers have been much much worse than ER.
I guess the same goes for the music. Not as great as Some Girls. Certainly not as great as Tattoo You, but in many ways it's an enjoyable album, it feels like a unit, and rather pleasant to listen to, compared to the post Tattoo You albums.
(Not to say that the post Tattoo You don't have their moments.)

UNDERCOVER was their last good/great album cover, to me, in terms of content, and it oddly matches the sound of the album, ha ha, at least to/for me it does. Since then they've been horrific. They gave up caring about the art of the album cover. BRIDGES is interesting and not as stupidly cartoony like VOODOO but ever since DIRTY WORK they've been the bottom of the pile. From IORR through U it was a great run of artwork for the LP covers.

EOMS and GHS are a bit off compared to BB-SF, although the messiness of EOMS indeed goes with the music.

You're right that the cover (and the music minus 4 songs) of Undercover is not so bad either. I think EOMS is one of their best covers and indeed very appropriate for the music.
I don't know why they stopped caring about the covers after U. Because people don't care about albums anyway?

That's an interesting aspect. Tour posters seem to be more important in the, well, really, it's a wash. 1985 or so onwards... included album covers in posters but, maybe someone can point elsewhere but it seems that U2 started using (or Polydor/Island at the time, now both with UMG) pictures within the framework of... yet Def Leppard did that with HYSTERIA.

It's all very interesting, no matter what and where and how: of course it expands beyond the album cover, which used to matter. HACKNEY DIAMONDS is horrible... yet "we" know it's The Rolling Stones.

UNDERCOVER or SOME GIRLS?

Since the art of the time length of the album has come back perhaps to drive the album, regardless of format, the artwork is next.

I can only hope, because it was such a big thing, that it DEFINES that moment, no matter how brilliant or ugly!!!! The Rollin Stones absolutely could've done better with HD but if that meant a cover similar to A BIGGER BANG, well, forget it. They lost an opportunity to pull something as simple as SLIPPERY WHEN WET.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Emotional Rescue
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: October 30, 2024 12:57

Well, I think the art of album cover - like the content as well - went downhill when the CD took over. There was no point any longer try to design something more ambitious to those small plastic boxes. Just make it simple and distinctive. No one would any longer really look at and study those covers, they were meaningless. STEEL WHEELS, FLASHPOINT and VOODOO LOUNGE are good examples of that new policy. All of those 'let's just put tongue there' releases are pretty effective to tell the point: 'hey, it is a new Rolling Stones release here!'

My absolutely favourite is the gorilla one! That's pure genius! grinning smiley (And probably the first cover since the old days - all the way to UNDERCOVER- that had a controversial bite on it, like they once almost always had.)

- Doxa



Edited 6 time(s). Last edit at 2024-10-30 13:17 by Doxa.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Emotional Rescue
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: October 30, 2024 13:13

Quote
Doxa


My absolutely favourite is the gorilla one! That's pure genius! grinning smiley (And probably the first cover since the old days - all the way to UNDERCOVER- that had a controversial bite on it, like they once almost always had.)

- Doxa

Yes! I liked that cover. I'm baffled as to why so many apparently didn't.

Re: Who is on the cover of Emotional Rescue?
Posted by: doitywoik ()
Date: October 30, 2024 20:35

Quote
SomeGuy
I believe it was a German release only. Also, some other LPs had lyric sheets that American releases didn't have, either (Some Girls, Tattoo You, Undercover and Black And Blue).

Don't know for Germany but when ER came out in Austria it first didn't have a lyric sheet either. However, the pressings available in the mid-1980s in Austria had it (lyrics printed on the inner sleeve). My copies of SG and B&B (bought in Germany came with lyrics, and so did TY and U (bought in Austria).

Anyone here recall the claim back then that ER was recorded/manufactured using a new technology so that copies on cassettes made from the LPs would be distorted by some sort of continuous beep sound? Apparently the Stones' take on "Hometaping is killing the music industry" (although back then unknown in Europe)? Of course the first thing I did was to transfer the LP to a cassette, and all was just normal ...
I found it a bit cheap of them back then to try to raise sales with such a cheap lie. Nowadays I wonder if they knew about that at all (Mick maybe), more likely something their PR department (or that of the record company) came up with.

The poster I found pretty cool (still do), even if it had nothing to do with the music on ER. Somehow reflects the early video experimentations in the seventies.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Emotional Rescue
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: October 30, 2024 21:11

Quote
Big Al
Quote
Doxa


My absolutely favourite is the gorilla one! That's pure genius! grinning smiley (And probably the first cover since the old days - all the way to UNDERCOVER- that had a controversial bite on it, like they once almost always had.)

- Doxa

Yes! I liked that cover. I'm baffled as to why so many apparently didn't.

Because it's outright stupid dumb. The title is pathetic. HONK is really bad but not as badly stupid. There's zero reason they couldn't've come up with better titles for each yet alone artwork.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Emotional Rescue
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: October 30, 2024 21:15

Yeah they coulda called it DONK and put a V8 Hemi on da cover ....



ROCKMAN

Re: ALBUM TALK: Emotional Rescue
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: October 30, 2024 21:27

Quote
Rockman
Yeah they coulda called it DONK and put a V8 Hemi on da cover ....

Oh no... here it goes.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Emotional Rescue
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: October 30, 2024 23:05

BONK with Johhny Sins at work on da cover .....



ROCKMAN

Re: ALBUM TALK: Emotional Rescue
Posted by: tomcat2006 ()
Date: October 30, 2024 23:11

Quote
GasLightStreet
Quote
Chacho
I bought the "Hackney Diamonds" CD and after
several months it is still sitting on my dining
room table, unopened, and wrapped in it's original
cellophane. I have not had a desire to listen to
it, knowing what the last several Stones albums were
like, from 1994 to the present. This was not the
case with "Emotional Rescue", which was opened and
listened to immediately after purchasing.

Since you haven't listened to it, as that reads, then you don't know what they sound like "to the present".

What a weird thing to say.

If your context that keeps you from listening to the new LP is VOODOO-BRIDGES-BANG then you're way out of touch.

You need to open up HACKNEY DIAMONDS and play it. It's excellent.

I'd echo that... it's frickin' awesome!!

Re: ALBUM TALK: Emotional Rescue
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: October 30, 2024 23:20

I've made my own expanded deluxe ER in the past when I had Spotify or when my PC was running (still don't have it back up yet) and it's really nice, actually, here's one version:

Dance
Summer Romance
Hang Fire
Neighbours
Send It To Me (unedited)
Little T&A
It's A Lie
Let Me Go
If I Was A Dancer
Indian Girl (unedited)
We Had It All
I Think I'm Going Mad
No Use In Crying
Where The Boys Go
Down In The Hole
Emotional Rescue (unedited)
She's So Cold
All About You


I did similar with STICKY FINGERS, took all of those leftovers from EXILE and made SF a double album.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Emotional Rescue
Posted by: Lynd8 ()
Date: October 31, 2024 14:23

Quote
GasLightStreet
I've made my own expanded deluxe ER in the past when I had Spotify or when my PC was running (still don't have it back up yet) and it's really nice, actually, here's one version:

Dance
Summer Romance
Hang Fire
Neighbours
Send It To Me (unedited)
Little T&A
It's A Lie
Let Me Go
If I Was A Dancer
Indian Girl (unedited)
We Had It All
I Think I'm Going Mad
No Use In Crying
Where The Boys Go
Down In The Hole
Emotional Rescue (unedited)
She's So Cold
All About You


I did similar with STICKY FINGERS, took all of those leftovers from EXILE and made SF a double album.

I'm aware they were loeftovers, but Why take Tattoo You tracks?

Re: ALBUM TALK: Emotional Rescue
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: October 31, 2024 19:22

Quote
Lynd8
Quote
GasLightStreet
I've made my own expanded deluxe ER in the past when I had Spotify or when my PC was running (still don't have it back up yet) and it's really nice, actually, here's one version:

Dance
Summer Romance
Hang Fire
Neighbours
Send It To Me (unedited)
Little T&A
It's A Lie
Let Me Go
If I Was A Dancer
Indian Girl (unedited)
We Had It All
I Think I'm Going Mad
No Use In Crying
Where The Boys Go
Down In The Hole
Emotional Rescue (unedited)
She's So Cold
All About You


I did similar with STICKY FINGERS, took all of those leftovers from EXILE and made SF a double album.

I'm aware they were loeftovers, but Why take Tattoo You tracks?

They were recorded for ER.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Emotional Rescue
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: October 31, 2024 19:41

Quote
Rockman
BONK with Johhny Sins at work on da cover .....

or WONK, with either a picture of Willy Wonka, or alternately some political hack.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Emotional Rescue
Posted by: RisingStone ()
Date: November 1, 2024 05:37

Let me quote my own post from the old “The aborted European leg of the Some Girls Tour” thread (which I started as OP):

Quote
RisingStone
Pardon me for going off on a tangent. If Some Girls is the Stones’ ‘punk’ album, Emotional Rescue feels like their ‘New Wave’ album. The ambience of the soundscape they created on ER reminds me of some of The Police’s contemporary releases for example, Regatta de Blanc (out on 2 October, 1979) in particular. From punk to New Wave — seems to me a natural progression in parallel with the music scene of the day.

To me, the cover of ER as well as the enclosed poster, in its artistic sense, also feels like something in common with those that graced the records by the New Wavers hitting the market in abundance in those times, e.g. Talking Heads’ Remain In Light. I found it quite contemporary and cool when I got hold of it back then.

Re: ALBUM TALK: Emotional Rescue
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: November 1, 2024 21:53

Quote
powerage78
I love the eponymous track.

The unedited LP version.




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