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MadMax
Yeah GLS, and Cirkus Stockholm 2003 they didnae play JJF nor Satisfaction (with Paradiso '95 being the other one where this occured), as well as being the next to the last show ever (Werchter 2007 the last) where they finished with Sympathy and I happened to attend both shows.
Albany 2005 must have been hell though cause that is the only show ever (since 1972 that is) where they didn't play the best song ever, Dice.
Regarding the thread, I Think ADTL would follow SMU pretty nice, I mean SMU followed BS in 02-03 (sus4-chords all over the Place) so any similarity between them would be dismissed. Maybe SMU being in the key of F doesn't fit the intro riff to ADTL? Gotta play it myself on guitar later and see what it sounds like.
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GerardHennessy
I do think the band are in a no-win situation with setlists. Too many warhorses and those of us who are committed long-term fans, with an in-depth knowledge of the full 50 year catalogue, rarities and all, will feel a little bit frustrated. Not enough, and the less knowledgeable - though just as passionate - occasional fans, who like the big hits, will feel excluded and unloved. And let us not forget that the Hot Rocks album has almost taken up permanent residence in the Billboard 200. It is their biggest ever commercial success and shows the appetite that exists out there for their best known numbers.
Personally I'd love more rarities, deep cuts and obscure tracks. But that would be commercial suicide for the band. and would also require them to do a huge amount of excavation of their back-catalogue. Is it fair to ask that of them, given their age? The Stones look after their fans an awful lot better than most other performers. They tour endlessly. They spread their concerts around as much as possible. And they really give it their all on stage. That is impressive for a bunch of guys closer to 80 than 70 age-wise. Except for Ronnie. They also include a few different, and comparatively less well known tracks, in every performance now.
Overall I think they do a very decent job indeed. And have done so for almost every day of my life.
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GerardHennessy
I do think the band are in a no-win situation with setlists. Too many warhorses and those of us who are committed long-term fans, with an in-depth knowledge of the full 50 year catalogue, rarities and all, will feel a little bit frustrated. Not enough, and the less knowledgeable - though just as passionate - occasional fans, who like the big hits, will feel excluded and unloved. And let us not forget that the Hot Rocks album has almost taken up permanent residence in the Billboard 200. It is their biggest ever commercial success and shows the appetite that exists out there for their best known numbers.
Personally I'd love more rarities, deep cuts and obscure tracks. But that would be commercial suicide for the band. and would also require them to do a huge amount of excavation of their back-catalogue. Is it fair to ask that of them, given their age? The Stones look after their fans an awful lot better than most other performers. They tour endlessly. They spread their concerts around as much as possible. And they really give it their all on stage. That is impressive for a bunch of guys closer to 80 than 70 age-wise. Except for Ronnie. They also include a few different, and comparatively less well known tracks, in every performance now.
Overall I think they do a very decent job indeed. And have done so for almost every day of my life.
Great post!
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bv
From a recent Chuck Leavell interview - Vanity Fair, November 27:
About the set list:
He also maintains a database of all the setlists. Before every show, he proposes the next setlist on his MacBook, making sure that they don’t repeat songs from the last date in the same city.
Then he emails it to Jagger, and Jagger emails back what he thinks. Leavell, personally, would like to play some of the outlier Stones tunes, like “Can’t You Hear Me Knocking” from Sticky Fingers, but Jagger is strictly focused on hits. “Anything that’s not a rocker, he thinks, Maybe we should have an up-tempo thing,” Leavell says. “It’s the way Mick views working the crowd — he likes the excitement. We’ll have conversations where he says, ‘I noticed that everybody was not looking up and wasn’t engaged, and I want them engaged.’”
Once the setlist is finalized, he explains, “I’ll put it on a thumb drive and go to the tour office and get it printed and take a couple of copies and put them in my back pocket: ‘Mick, here’s what we’ve got.’” For this show, on a Monday in August, the opening song is going to be “Jumpin’ Jack Flash,” and they’ll introduce a wild card, “Harlem Shuffle,” which they haven’t played since 1990.
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Chris Fountain
I can only hope that at this point with a prosperous career, with nothing to lose, that a unique set list of rarities and surprises will be played dismissing a Song Vote Sham.
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JordyLicks96
I wouldn't get my hopes up. It will be the same 19-20 setlist with minor changes and a couple rarities thrown in.
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JordyLicks96
I wouldn't get my hopes up. It will be the same 19-20 setlist with minor changes and a couple rarities thrown in.
Yep - and maybe some songs from the GHS-reissue like in 2015 from the Sticky-Fingers-reissue ....
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JumpinJeppeFlash
They already played all of them live since 2012 except Star Star (@#$%&) and they wont play that one again for sure. 5 songs from GHS have never been played live.
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JumpinJeppeFlash
They already played all of them live since 2012 except Star Star (@#$%&) and they wont play that one again for sure. 5 songs from GHS have never been played live.
And why should they play 5 songs from GHS when they already played all of them live since 2012 (except Star Star).
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JordyLicks96
They'll probably have a mini "GOATS HEAD SOUP" set during each show like they did with STICKY FINGERS during the Zip Code Tour.
My guess on the songs they choose to switch around for each show:
Dancing With Mr. D
Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)
Angie
Silver Train
Star Star
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JordyLicks96
They'll probably have a mini "GOATS HEAD SOUP" set during each show like they did with STICKY FINGERS during the Zip Code Tour.
My guess on the songs they choose to switch around for each show:
Dancing With Mr. D
Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)
Angie
Silver Train
Star Star
Men in their mid to late 70s wont play songs like Star Star.
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JumpinJeppeFlash
They wont play Star Star and the 5 songs never played live.
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JordyLicks96
They'll probably have a mini "GOATS HEAD SOUP" set during each show like they did with STICKY FINGERS during the Zip Code Tour.
My guess on the songs they choose to switch around for each show:
Dancing With Mr. D
Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)
Angie
Silver Train
Star Star
Men in their mid to late 70s wont play songs like Star Star.
They last played Star Star in 2003 and they were men in their 60s. They're "The Rolling Stones" not some group for children where they have to watch their dirty language. All of a sudden the words "pussy" and "@#$%&" can't be said by men in their 70s?
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JordyLicks96
They'll probably have a mini "GOATS HEAD SOUP" set during each show like they did with STICKY FINGERS during the Zip Code Tour.
My guess on the songs they choose to switch around for each show:
Dancing With Mr. D
Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)
Angie
Silver Train
Star Star
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JordyLicks96
They're "The Rolling Stones" not some group for children where they have to watch their dirty language.
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JordyLicks96
They're "The Rolling Stones" not some group for children where they have to watch their dirty language.
They could alter the lyrics like with 'Some Girls' ....