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Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: GerardHennessy ()
Date: February 12, 2020 13:06

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VoodooLounge13
A monumental pipe dream of a set list:

One Hit
Lowdown
Let Me Go
Hang Fire
Silver Train
She's A Rainbow
Hand of Fate

B-Stage
Mothers Little Helper
Blue Turns to Grey
Out of Time - Crowd sing-along/extended version, I said - Baby, Baby, Baby (give the band time to get back to the main stage, Mick lingering on the cat walk, waving his arms back and forth as the crowd sings with him, Baby, Baby, Baby You're Out of Time)

Coming Down Again
Wanna Hold You (selfishly I'd prefer Thru & Thru here, but Keef usually does one slow & one rocker)
Winter
Too Tight
Dance Little Sister
Baby Break It Down
Ride Em On Down
One More Shot
Driving Too Fast

Encore
Almost Hear You Sigh
We Don't Wanna Go Home
Brown Sugar


I love your fantasy set-list. Thank you for posting it. Sadly that is what it is of course -a fantasy. But we can dream. Personally I'd have crammed in Casino Boogie, Waiting on a Friend, Parachute Woman, Jig Saw Puzzle, Torn and Frayed, Stop Breaking Down....and on and on!

RS fans will probably have seen that Hot Rocks has re-entered the Billboard Chart at 154 this week. It contains at least a dozen of the numbers we hear at concert after concert on every tour. And will do so again this time around. Honk, being their most recent non-London/Decca charting album, will, no doubt, provide around another half dozen songs that are regulars on every set-list. That leaves space for one, or if we are really lucky, a massive TWO relative rarities at every concert. And I do mean RELATIVE rarities. Numbers we have not heard for maybe 3-4 years now qualify as a rarity on set-lists. What a pity!

Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: Meise ()
Date: February 12, 2020 17:00

For the Stones, there's no need to change a well-proven setlist. They know what most people want to hear. A big majority of the concert audience are not die-hard Stones fans and expect the warhorses. It's comparable to a visit to the circus.

Every tour it's the same. The first two or three concerts feature some songs that we all here find rather interesting, but in the end they come out playing 95% the same songs. That's business ...

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Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: GerardHennessy ()
Date: February 12, 2020 22:22

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Meise
For the Stones, there's no need to change a well-proven setlist. They know what most people want to hear. A big majority of the concert audience are not die-hard Stones fans and expect the warhorses. It's comparable to a visit to the circus.

Every tour it's the same. The first two or three concerts feature some songs that we all here find rather interesting, but in the end they come out playing 95% the same songs. That's business ...

You are spot on! That is, indeed, business. And The Stones are now a business. A multi-faceted, trans-global business. A business that gives most of its customers exactly what they want, most of the time. Sadly it is no longer what I want to hear, so this time I'm voting with my feet. But that is my problem. My issue to deal with.

You also entirely correct in what you say about the first few gigs. That is when any left-field numbers are likely to be performed. But pretty quickly the same old, same old...reassert themselves, and the full compliment of warhorses come out to play.


Oh well!

Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: February 12, 2020 23:27

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GerardHennessy
Quote
VoodooLounge13
A monumental pipe dream of a set list:

One Hit
Lowdown
Let Me Go
Hang Fire
Silver Train
She's A Rainbow
Hand of Fate

B-Stage
Mothers Little Helper
Blue Turns to Grey
Out of Time - Crowd sing-along/extended version, I said - Baby, Baby, Baby (give the band time to get back to the main stage, Mick lingering on the cat walk, waving his arms back and forth as the crowd sings with him, Baby, Baby, Baby You're Out of Time)

Coming Down Again
Wanna Hold You (selfishly I'd prefer Thru & Thru here, but Keef usually does one slow & one rocker)
Winter
Too Tight
Dance Little Sister
Baby Break It Down
Ride Em On Down
One More Shot
Driving Too Fast

Encore
Almost Hear You Sigh
We Don't Wanna Go Home
Brown Sugar


I love your fantasy set-list. Thank you for posting it. Sadly that is what it is of course -a fantasy. But we can dream. Personally I'd have crammed in Casino Boogie, Waiting on a Friend, Parachute Woman, Jig Saw Puzzle, Torn and Frayed, Stop Breaking Down....and on and on!

RS fans will probably have seen that Hot Rocks has re-entered the Billboard Chart at 154 this week. It contains at least a dozen of the numbers we hear at concert after concert on every tour. And will do so again this time around. Honk, being their most recent non-London/Decca charting album, will, no doubt, provide around another half dozen songs that are regulars on every set-list. That leaves space for one, or if we are really lucky, a massive TWO relative rarities at every concert. And I do mean RELATIVE rarities. Numbers we have not heard for maybe 3-4 years now qualify as a rarity on set-lists. What a pity!


It is indeed a fantasy, but comprised of songs that I would love to hear live - there are more, of course, but these are what I threw in here. I'd love to hear As Tears Go By, too. Having finally caught Wild Horses and Ruby Tuesday, live, those were removed from the list. And of course, as much as I tried, I just need to be sent off Brown Sugar. To me, it is THE quintessential end to every Stones show, especially in the stadiums as the fireworks go off.

Re: Set List Discussion for US 2020 Tour
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: February 13, 2020 03:22

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JumpinJeppeFlash
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Midnight Toker
We were prmimsed hidden gems last tour. We got the lackluster "Sad Sad Sad".

And Harlem Shuffle and Fool To Cry two times 2018...

And Dead Flowers!!!

Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: February 13, 2020 03:23

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shortfatfanny
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GasLightStreet
Nothing will change, it will just be the 2019 set list again with the odd track somewhere in the middle: a condensed HOT ROCKS with some REWIND thrown in.

Guess there will be some Rolled Gold Honk as well...

That's just reissuist. I'm an originalist.

Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: February 13, 2020 08:42

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GerardHennessy
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Meise
For the Stones, there's no need to change a well-proven setlist. They know what most people want to hear. A big majority of the concert audience are not die-hard Stones fans and expect the warhorses. It's comparable to a visit to the circus.

Every tour it's the same. The first two or three concerts feature some songs that we all here find rather interesting, but in the end they come out playing 95% the same songs. That's business ...

You are spot on! That is, indeed, business. And The Stones are now a business. A multi-faceted, trans-global business. A business that gives most of its customers exactly what they want, most of the time. Sadly it is no longer what I want to hear, so this time I'm voting with my feet. But that is my problem. My issue to deal with.

You also entirely correct in what you say about the first few gigs. That is when any left-field numbers are likely to be performed. But pretty quickly the same old, same old...reassert themselves, and the full compliment of warhorses come out to play.


Oh well!

But they are always looking for something novel to sell. I think a one, or two night engagement where they actually do rarities, and maybe some blues covers, would be a great concept. They could even have a small orchestral group, so you could actually play recorder/flute on Ruby Tuesday, instead of a synth. They could call it NO SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL. (And of course not play it).

They could have appropriate guest musicians like Clapton, or Buddy Guy (but they already had him on the Shine a Light program).

Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: GerardHennessy ()
Date: February 13, 2020 13:46

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24FPS
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GerardHennessy
Quote
Meise
For the Stones, there's no need to change a well-proven setlist. They know what most people want to hear. A big majority of the concert audience are not die-hard Stones fans and expect the warhorses. It's comparable to a visit to the circus.

Every tour it's the same. The first two or three concerts feature some songs that we all here find rather interesting, but in the end they come out playing 95% the same songs. That's business ...

You are spot on! That is, indeed, business. And The Stones are now a business. A multi-faceted, trans-global business. A business that gives most of its customers exactly what they want, most of the time. Sadly it is no longer what I want to hear, so this time I'm voting with my feet. But that is my problem. My issue to deal with.

You also entirely correct in what you say about the first few gigs. That is when any left-field numbers are likely to be performed. But pretty quickly the same old, same old...reassert themselves, and the full compliment of warhorses come out to play.


Oh well!

But they are always looking for something novel to sell. I think a one, or two night engagement where they actually do rarities, and maybe some blues covers, would be a great concept. They could even have a small orchestral group, so you could actually play recorder/flute on Ruby Tuesday, instead of a synth. They could call it NO SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL. (And of course not play it).

They could have appropriate guest musicians like Clapton, or Buddy Guy (but they already had him on the Shine a Light program).

I'd SO like it if they did what you suggest. Excellent idea. And of course we cannot rule it out totally, especially if they want to build up a bit of momentum around the possible super-duper Goats Head Soup reissue. After all they played Sticky Fingers in its entirety at the Fonda Theatre when that album was reissued. Sadly, of course, they did so only once.

The reality is that The Stones can sell an awful lot of tickets, and breath a wee bit of life into their back-catalogue, by simply regurgitating almost the same set list over and over again. I have a number of friends and acquaintances who are already making their travel plans for the upcoming gigs. They consider themselves to be 'massive' RS fans (their word) but between all five of them they failed to name even 30 tracks by the band when I asked them recently. Almost everyone reading this post could guess what these tracks were. The most 'obscure' track they named was All Down The Line - which they mistakenly called Coming Down The Line. And that was only because one of them remembered it being played on one of the tours some years back. Right now they are eagerly looking forward to hearing a set-list stuffed to overflowing with warhorses.

Given this kind of reality, the Stones are probably thinking. 'Freshen up the set list? Why bother! Give the people what they want' Problem is, of course, it leaves quite a lot of the genuine deep-level fans - like me, and some others on this forum - just a little bit frustrated.

Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: tioms ()
Date: February 13, 2020 14:12

I saw them first time in Oct.1973 Antwerp (Belgium).
I've seen every European tour several times on each tour.
Now it is business.
It's tooooo much and I'm a great fan and I've no need them to see anymore.
97% is the same songs.
Maybe if they do come back in Werchter 10Km or 6 miles from my home that I'll go.
For the rest: No need.

Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: shortfatfanny ()
Date: February 13, 2020 16:04

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GasLightStreet
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shortfatfanny
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GasLightStreet
Nothing will change, it will just be the 2019 set list again with the odd track somewhere in the middle: a condensed HOT ROCKS with some REWIND thrown in.

Guess there will be some Rolled Gold Honk as well...

That's just reissuist. I'm an originalist.

Grrr...for completists...


Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: bam ()
Date: February 13, 2020 16:50

The Stones know that the people who go to their concerts are most familiar with Hot Rocks. But even Hot Rocks has a number of songs they rarely, if ever, play.
Enough people at each show would know the other Hot Rocks songs, if they'd play those more often.

Of course, a couple of other rarities would be appreciated, too, like "Hit the Wall." winking smiley

Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Date: February 13, 2020 16:56

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bam
The Stones know that the people who go to their concerts are most familiar with Hot Rocks. But even Hot Rocks has a number of songs they rarely, if ever, play.
Enough people at each show would know the other Hot Rocks songs, if they'd play those more often.

Of course, a couple of other rarities would be appreciated, too, like "Hit the Wall." winking smiley

Yep, time to add:

Time Is On My Side
Heart Of Stone
Mother's Little Helper
19th Nervous Breakdown

in addition to the GHS-tracks they haven't played before, of course smoking smiley



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Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: PinballWizard23 ()
Date: February 13, 2020 17:39

I’d like to see it’s all over now make it back into the setlist. Don’t think it’s been played since 94/95. How about an even 20 song setlist.



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Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: MadMax ()
Date: February 13, 2020 17:46

"I’d like to see it’s all over now make it back into the setlist. Don’t think it’s been played since 94/95."

We got it in Werchter 2007 matesmileys with beer

Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Date: February 13, 2020 17:47

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PinballWizard23
I’d like to see it’s all over now make it back into the setlist. Don’t think it’s been played since 94/95. How about an even 20 song setlist.

Saw a brilliant version in London in 2012 thumbs up

Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: PinballWizard23 ()
Date: February 13, 2020 17:47

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MadMax
"I’d like to see it’s all over now make it back into the setlist. Don’t think it’s been played since 94/95."

We got it in Werchter 2007 matesmileys with beer

Nice, didn’t realize that, lucky you!

Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: PinballWizard23 ()
Date: February 13, 2020 17:54

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DandelionPowderman
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PinballWizard23
I’d like to see it’s all over now make it back into the setlist. Don’t think it’s been played since 94/95. How about an even 20 song setlist.

Saw a brilliant version in London in 2012 thumbs up

I stand corrected, looks like they’ve played it about 8 times since 95. I’ll attribute that to the days when we still saw 20+ In the setlists. 50 and counting I think they averaged 23 per show.

Would be nice to see this one more time!

Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: frankotero ()
Date: February 13, 2020 17:57

Won't be at any of the shows (unless they come to EU) but I hope they play at least one or two dare I say rarities. Hope you guys have great shows!

Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: Justin ()
Date: February 13, 2020 19:14

2020 will be the year for the return of Dance Little Sister!

Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: stickyfingers101 ()
Date: February 13, 2020 19:28

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tioms
I saw them first time in Oct.1973 Antwerp (Belgium).
I've seen every European tour several times on each tour.
Now it is business.
It's tooooo much and I'm a great fan and I've no need them to see anymore.
97% is the same songs.
Maybe if they do come back in Werchter 10Km or 6 miles from my home that I'll go.
For the rest: No need.

sure...but for me, it's about the experience.

I still love the feeling when the lights go down

and I enjoy the first "half" of the concert where they do mix it up a bit.

...and the 2nd half is just the pure joy of dancing and singing along w/ my favorite band.

I get what you're saying (and I too would like more variety), but I feel like you're missing the "point" of the Stones these days.

my biggest gripe is the ticket prices...and Chuck! Hahahaha...just kidding...I'm just throwing that in there b/c it seems "Setlists" and "Chuck" are the two biggest complain-threads on this board.

Go Stones!

Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: Nikkei ()
Date: February 13, 2020 19:30

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Justin
2020 will be the year for the return of Dance Little Sister!

but remember where you heard that first

Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: February 13, 2020 19:56

My dream setlist - (today)....

Start me up
Harlem Shuffle
Get Off Of My Cloud
Doom And Gloom
Honky Tonk Women
Dance little sister
Little Baby
Brown Sugar
Can't You Hear Me Knocking
Like A Rolling Stone
Route 66
Walking the Dog
Out of Time
Everybody Needs Somebody To Love
Miss You
All down the line
Waiting On A Friend
It's All Over Now
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Monkey man
Satisfaction
Jumping Jack Flash

Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Date: February 13, 2020 20:31

Okay, let's do this again!

We Love You
Satisfaction
She Said Yeah
It's Not Easy
Lady Jane
High And Dry
Out Of Time
2000 Light Years From Home
Jig Saw Puzzle
Midnight Rambler

Keith:
Something Else
Coming Down Again

100 Years Ago
Can You Hear The Music
Honky Tonk Women
Gimme Shelter
Start Me Up
Sympathy For The Devil
Tumbling Dice
Brown Sugar
Jumping Jack Flash



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Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: Justin ()
Date: February 13, 2020 20:38

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Nikkei
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Justin
2020 will be the year for the return of Dance Little Sister!

but remember where you heard that first

Me! It was on my sign that I held outside their rehearsals years ago.winking smiley They eventually got my other request tho "Dancing With Mr. D" so they're due for one more from my sign smiling smiley

Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: Nikkei ()
Date: February 13, 2020 20:43

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Justin
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Nikkei
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Justin
2020 will be the year for the return of Dance Little Sister!

but remember where you heard that first

Me! It was on my sign that I held outside their rehearsals years ago.winking smiley They eventually got my other request tho "Dancing With Mr. D" so they're due for one more from my sign smiling smiley

That's too much time in between. Remember when I took my YGM request to Twitter?

Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: Justin ()
Date: February 27, 2020 01:08

They need to bring back "I Go Wild." I think it'd be a scorcher.

Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Date: February 27, 2020 01:22

Fingers crossed the end with satisfaction!!!

Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: TumblinDice76 ()
Date: February 27, 2020 01:23

Justin-I agree. Love it on the Miami Voodoo release.

Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: MadMax ()
Date: February 27, 2020 01:56

Justin wrote: "They need to bring back "I Go Wild." I think it'd be a scorcher."

I agree, it's quite strange that they haven't done it since 95. For me it's a top 30 Stones tune which they oughta play again and they would be able to do it justice this late in the game toosmileys with beer

Re: The Rolling Stones set list discussions
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: February 27, 2020 05:50

I would go see a Stones concert if they were playing mostly blues, and true rarities. They've rammed the warhorses into the ground. Only Midnight Rambler still has a real kick to it, and Keith's opening chords to JJF. Maybe that's because they're a little looser on Midnight Rambler, and tend to do the only improvising they do. And JJF because it's JJF.

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