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kleermaker
Do you really believe it is some kind of democratic voting process? How naieve!
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Do you really believe it is some kind of democratic voting process? How naieve!
More interesting is the fact that Jagger is very aware that he needs the Stones as a band/vehicle to be important himself. Jagger solo never attracted the masses: he just failed on his own.
Even more interesting is the question who controls the band musically/artistically. That is Jagger right now, but difficult to say since when. I would guess mid seventies.
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duke richardson
it still has always been about the band, and Jagger knows it.
he might have been more interested than anyone else in the band in business matters, but don't forget-
Bill Wyman was quite likely the more astute businessman in the Rolling Stones, yet his input was marginalized.
And no decisions regarding what they undertook as a band were ever unilateral,
especially decisions about recording or touring. if Charlie wasn't into it, they wouldn't do it, generally..
so he kind of de facto runs the band..
In that respect though, if any of them aren't into recording or touring it's not going to happen. I get the feeling decisions are made as a group in those infamous band meetings, with the 4 key members each getting a vote. What would be interesting to know is how they resolve tie votes. Perhaps Jagger as CEO has the power to do so, who knows.
Do you really believe it is some kind of democratic voting process? How naieve!
More interesting is the fact that Jagger is very aware that he needs the Stones as a band/vehicle to be important himself. Jagger solo never attracted the masses: he just failed on his own.
Even more interesting is the question who controls the band musically/artistically. That is Jagger right now, but difficult to say since when. I would guess mid seventies.
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Turner68
In all equal partnerships in business, there is always one person who the partners agree to be a leader.
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Turner68
In all equal partnerships in business, there is always one person who the partners agree to be a leader.
As a partner in 4 LLC's, I must say you are entirely incorrect. Equal partnerships are often equal in all things.
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keefriffhards
At What point do you think Mick Jagger took control over running the band.
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At What point do you think Mick Jagger took control over running the band.
1989. He put the band back on its wheels and sealed a $$$$$$$$$$ deal with Cohl.
Keith who in 1989 was still amazed at how little money he had left (that's junkie lifestyle for you) and how much the 1988 Winos tour had cost him was instantly in love with the new "I'm the breadbaker and you shut up" Jagger!
"You want inflatable dolls onstage for HTW and SFM!? I say that's a greeeeeeat idea, Mick!!"
Then in 1994 Keith went back to "ungrateful/difficult with Mick" mode again. For B2b Mick and Keith were divorced again and they worked on the album separately.
Keith's resentful/negative state (stain?) of mind culminated with the "LIfe" book.
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umakmehrd
Do you really think Keef could have ever taken the wheel???
He is the Heart Mick is the Brains... Simple
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bmuseed
Mick is the exception to the rule! A musical talent with a business acumen. He had the best interests of the band in mind and they knew it. The band always had a veto power but for the most part, didn't need to use it.. Everything was implied, never stated...
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duke richardson
it still has always been about the band, and Jagger knows it.
he might have been more interested than anyone else in the band in business matters, but don't forget-
Bill Wyman was quite likely the more astute businessman in the Rolling Stones, yet his input was marginalized.
And no decisions regarding what they undertook as a band were ever unilateral,
especially decisions about recording or touring. if Charlie wasn't into it, they wouldn't do it, generally..
so he kind of de facto runs the band..
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duke richardson
it still has always been about the band, and Jagger knows it.
he might have been more interested than anyone else in the band in business matters, but don't forget-
Bill Wyman was quite likely the more astute businessman in the Rolling Stones, yet his input was marginalized.
And no decisions regarding what they undertook as a band were ever unilateral,
especially decisions about recording or touring. if Charlie wasn't into it, they wouldn't do it, generally..
so he kind of de facto runs the band..
duke, what in god's name are you talking about? how is Bill the more astute business man? Because he started a restaurant all on his own, or because he 'invented' metal detection?
Come on man, give us an example!
...and I apologize in advance for marginalizing his contribution!
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duke richardson
it still has always been about the band, and Jagger knows it.
he might have been more interested than anyone else in the band in business matters, but don't forget-
Bill Wyman was quite likely the more astute businessman in the Rolling Stones, yet his input was marginalized.
And no decisions regarding what they undertook as a band were ever unilateral,
especially decisions about recording or touring. if Charlie wasn't into it, they wouldn't do it, generally..
so he kind of de facto runs the band..
duke, what in god's name are you talking about? how is Bill the more astute business man? Because he started a restaurant all on his own, or because he 'invented' metal detection?
Come on man, give us an example!
...and I apologize in advance for marginalizing his contribution!
he also invented the fretless electric bass
didn't he try to keep his eye on the contracts, and what they were actually agreeing to?
oh sure he went along with everything but that was because he had to.
and by the way he had the concept for the first easy to use guitar tuner..
the thingys that are so common nowadays..
iguess really he's the best inventor in the rolling stones.
maybe not the best businessman.
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duke richardson
it still has always been about the band, and Jagger knows it.
he might have been more interested than anyone else in the band in business matters, but don't forget-
Bill Wyman was quite likely the more astute businessman in the Rolling Stones, yet his input was marginalized.
And no decisions regarding what they undertook as a band were ever unilateral,
especially decisions about recording or touring. if Charlie wasn't into it, they wouldn't do it, generally..
so he kind of de facto runs the band..
duke, what in god's name are you talking about? how is Bill the more astute business man? Because he started a restaurant all on his own, or because he 'invented' metal detection?
Come on man, give us an example!
...and I apologize in advance for marginalizing his contribution!
he also invented the fretless electric bass
didn't he try to keep his eye on the contracts, and what they were actually agreeing to?
oh sure he went along with everything but that was because he had to.
and by the way he had the concept for the first easy to use guitar tuner..
the thingys that are so common nowadays..
iguess really he's the best inventor in the rolling stones.
maybe not the best businessman.
well the best invention has to be the songs Keith and Mick wrote.
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duke richardson
it still has always been about the band, and Jagger knows it.
he might have been more interested than anyone else in the band in business matters, but don't forget-
Bill Wyman was quite likely the more astute businessman in the Rolling Stones, yet his input was marginalized.
And no decisions regarding what they undertook as a band were ever unilateral,
especially decisions about recording or touring. if Charlie wasn't into it, they wouldn't do it, generally..
so he kind of de facto runs the band..
duke, what in god's name are you talking about? how is Bill the more astute business man? Because he started a restaurant all on his own, or because he 'invented' metal detection?
Come on man, give us an example!
...and I apologize in advance for marginalizing his contribution!
he also invented the fretless electric bass
didn't he try to keep his eye on the contracts, and what they were actually agreeing to?
oh sure he went along with everything but that was because he had to.
and by the way he had the concept for the first easy to use guitar tuner..
the thingys that are so common nowadays..
iguess really he's the best inventor in the rolling stones.
maybe not the best businessman.
well the best invention has to be the songs Keith and Mick wrote.
well, Bill invented JJF..