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Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: Rokyfan ()
Date: May 21, 2015 19:36

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SoCalStone
I agree with you. I was also in line all day. The Stones management or security team could have sent someone out or relayed a message to say early on "Sorry guys, this is basically an industry show, if you don't have tickets, we will not be able to get you in."
This would have been a nice gesture on their part and it would have saved us 8+ hours of standing in line for nothing. Surely at least by 7:00pm or so they knew they weren't letting anyone in, yet nobody came out and said anything. Their fans who were willing to take off from work and stand outside all day probably deserved something like this. Between the line at the El Rey (which I was in) and the line at the Fonda (which I was also in), there were 300 or so fans waiting in line for the chance to see them. When no annoucements are made to the contrary, you keep thinking there is a chance to get in if you keep waiting patiently. Out of these 300+, I saw only ONE person make it in to the venue (the guy with the hat who was in front of the line all day). Some of us waited until the show was halfway over still thinking there was a chance since so many people were leaving the venue, yet still no entries allowed.
I know we aren't owed anything, I'm just saying it would have been a nice gesture on their part to "release" the line if they had no intention of letting anyone in.
On to San Diego....

But . . . you people on line all day are part of the story, part of the PR, that's why they sold the 100 tickets and let people hold out hope, so they could include all the people lining up as part of the PR. Then they cut to the models, etc. who actually got to see the show.

Similar to what they did when they played the Beacon show that ended up being the Scorcese movie. They cancelled an Atlantic City gig for a few days before in order to save Mick's voice for the big filming. But they did not announce the cancellation until way late. I know people who traveled to Atlantic City for the show to be told upon check in at their hotel that the show was off. The reason thy did not announce the cancellation earlier, when they could have, was that it helped the hotel/casino people to not do so, to have the people travel to AC; some would stay anyway and spend their money. So they shit all over their fans so as not to alienate the hotel/casino owners. And made their movie with the models.

Different circumstances here but same motivation. They want the people lining up to show the great demand so no way they would come out and tell you to go home, there's no chance. You all wasted your day; they don't care.

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: roller99 ()
Date: May 21, 2015 19:36

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Club gig = people with connections & other people who aren't true fans.

I have some marginal connections, and they failed me. Yet I got in by pure luck, and it had nothing to do with connections.

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
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Date: May 21, 2015 19:40










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Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: chevysales ()
Date: May 21, 2015 19:40

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Do you think the periscope-thing means that the concert today gets streamed?
Seems logical to me because what else should they stream if not the concert?
(rehearsals are maybe finished already)
If they do a stream I will stand up in the middle of the night to watch it (and if it's available on the computer I'll try to record it)

Stonesnews.com writes:
"Apparently, there's a filmcrew at the theatre and maybe there is a broadcast later [thx paperposter, sdb]. That could point less to a simple warm-up gig but more to a kind of DVD production or something. The filming is done by JA Digital from London, UK."

Do you think they want money for the stream?
I think about buying a iTunes Gift Card to be prepared if it's an in-app-purchase.

But I also wonder what is the point to do professional filming on a warm-up gig. It's called a "warm-up gig" because it's a warm up for the tour - sure they are a little bit rusty since their last concert was in november. Wouldn't it make more sence to do a filming towards the end of the tour? I saw there are more free days during the concerts than it was on the last tour.

On periscope the streams are free, you can't charge for Periscope.

Someone was asking earlier about what's special about Periscope. It's that you can stream from any iPhone. This means that if any IORRians get into the club show, they could literally stream the show to us (unless phones are confiscated of course.)

For the Maryweather prizefight HBO streamed on Periscope from the locker room of one of the fighters, let's hope the Stones do something like that.

The fact the Stones set up an account this week means, I think, they will be using it, probably today. how they do so I have no idea. There are 34,000 people currently subscribing to them on Periscope (yesterday it was just 10,000) so clearly something is up.

not unless they are on wireless as any LTE connection would be maxed and constantly buffering they are only on version 1.04 so periscope has a ways to go before it can or ever actually do that via straight data connection.

Stones as we all found out offered us up 13 streams 12 were short snippets of stuff that used to be on their web site on past tours. the show itself showed what the backline crew for 35 seconds until we heard Band announcement then stream ends. Doubt they ever will Periscope a show or even a song in its entirety.

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: Turner68 ()
Date: May 21, 2015 19:40

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Club gig = people with connections & other people who aren't true fans.

I have some marginal connections, and they failed me. Yet I got in by pure luck, and it had nothing to do with connections.

it sounds like there was a way in for fans - the sticky fingers story. it actually sounds like a reasonable way to make sure some fans got it.
other than that, seems like the club show was a commercial for the tour.

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: May 21, 2015 19:41

Anyway those who said L.A. cannot keep a secret were wrong.

The IORR member(s) who wrote here several days ago that if you weren't already on the list you had not a chance to get in were right.

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: caschimann ()
Date: May 21, 2015 19:42

Don´t you all think those "INDUSTRY"-people are real, big Rolling Stones fans
like you??
Isn´t it their right to take the chance of being there, when offered to them?
And: Don´t you think that even when the Stones invite all the people they have a close relationship to in the LA-area it would fill 3 Fonda theaters???
So what?
Lets be happy for those who were in.
And sorry for those who did´nt make it.
And glad that it happened at all.

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: JumpinJeppeFlash ()
Date: May 21, 2015 19:45

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hey everybody,

i don’t post very much, but i do read this fun threads and this is my experience with last night show…

i was there at the fonda in the morning to get tickets, i was there at el rey (pick up location to get tickets) to try to get lucky with tickets too, and i was there at the fonda during the show, without any luck to get in.

although im sure the show was amazing, this was not cater to fans… it was a private party for their invites… i’m not saying this angry, i’m not even whinning, but let’s say things the way they are… let’s not trick ourselves… you can debate if the stones owe their fans anything or nothing… but the point is that 99.9% of the people that go in… 1) have some insider that help them get tickets 2) were willing to pay big bucks to get in.

the whole online sale was bullshit… probably only 10 people got tickets that way… i was there at el rey and witness the wristband/ticket pick up from the online sale… those picking up were people inside the music industry, or with some insiders, etc etc…. they weren’t the fans trying to go online and get a ticket.. I even know some of them since I live in LA.

99.9% of the fans that try really hard to get in from early in the morning (like myself) were wondering outside without a ticket when the show started… were we all so unlucky although we all try so hard to get a ticket??

I say again, I’m not whinning, or angry,… but let’s just call things as they are… this was NOT a 5 dollar ticket show for lucky fans who got online in time. That was a bullshit PR/marketing thing… You can thing that’s wrong, you can think that’s right… but let’s agree on that

cheers and see you in San Diego.

Very well spokensmileys with beer

Like me and a few others here being called "awful" people today for pointing this out, it confirms what everyone here have heard and been reading today about the show. It was not a show for the real fans, it was a show for celebrities, people with the right connections and very few "real" fans who hade the luck of their life scoring tickets through the web or paying big $$$$$ to get in. I think it´s extremely disrespectful to people like you, real fans queuing upp all day without a single chance to even buy a ticket. That´s how they say thank you to their real fans, who would be queuing for hours if the weren´t a real fan? No one. It´s shame and ignorant behaviour, it´s all about the money and nothing about people whom in many cases have dedicated most of their life to the band in one way or another. People here can call me "awful" how much they want, this is still my opinion. It´s a mockery against the real fans.

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: May 21, 2015 19:46

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I somehow trust what they say and have no doubt this was one of the best modern day Stones shows ever. I think it was probably one of those "you had to be there" experiences. I doubt it will truly be captured by the film and recording, even it we get the whole un-edited show.

peace

But how can one of the best moderns Stones shows ever not be made justice by a recording?
Other audience recorded club gigs such as the one at Cirkus in Stockholm on the Licks tour, sounds phenomenal on recording and makes you understand how fantastic the show must have been.
If this Fonda Theatre gig cannot sound fantastic on recording, then it simply wasn't one of their best gigs.

There are intangible factors involved in a concert experience. When all 5 senses are engaged and people in the audience are literally beaming with joy and energy, it can really effect the experience beyond what the artists performance is giving you. From the shorts clips we've seen I suspect this was partially the case last night. The best analogy I can think of is when you are perfectly intoxicated and play or listen to a piece of music, you are thrilled at how perfect it sounds and feels, then the next morning you listen and the magic isn't there. The experience the night before wasn't any less, it just didn't translate well to morning sobriety.

I guess we'll have to wait for the DVD release to be sure, but I suspect Mick will doctor it up a bit to make sure it's great. There will surely be people who don't think it's the best modern Stones recording but you had to be there to judge whether it was the best modern Stones show. Of course it may turn out to be be both. smoking smiley

peace

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
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Date: May 21, 2015 19:46





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Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: Munichhilton ()
Date: May 21, 2015 19:51

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Club gig = people with connections & other people who aren't true fans.

These guys seem baffled by social media...they went for an industry buzz rather than every chance of going viral with fan chatter...can somebody shake the handle of the Stones hype machine...it's leaking

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: mnewman505 ()
Date: May 21, 2015 19:52

Ugh, stop whining, I slept on the street in Toronto in '05, was in line for 14 hours and didn't get in to the Phoenix (although they did let a few more fans into the show after it started.) Any Stones fan who knows these shows, knows it's a damn miracle if you get in. Stop acting so surprised that it mostly VIPs.



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Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Date: May 21, 2015 19:53

Thanks for the detailed reviews, Dead Flowers & Roller99. Glad that you and BV and the other lucky IORR-ers had "The Time of Your Lives!"

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: JumpinJeppeFlash ()
Date: May 21, 2015 19:55

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Ugh, stop whining, I slept on the street in Toronto in '05, was in line for 14 hours and didn't get in to the Phoenix (although they did let a few more fans into the show after it started.) Any Stones fan who knows these shows, knows it's a damn miracle if you get in. Stop acting so surprised that it mostly VIPs.

Say what you want but something is extremely wrong when spoiled models and celebrities leaving a show like this after 15-20 minutes.

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: micwer ()
Date: May 21, 2015 19:57

Geeee, the ungratefulness of some of the fans on this board!

They could have made this show 100% private and didn't. They included some fans. They invited fans to their rehearsals during last tour. They invited back Mick Taylor for a while. They've added the choir on YCAGWYW. But it's never enough, is it?

We should be glad these old guys are still around to play so well!

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: Turner68 ()
Date: May 21, 2015 19:57

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Ugh, stop whining, I slept on the street in Toronto in '05, was in line for 14 hours and didn't get in to the Phoenix (although they did let a few more fans into the show after it started.) Any Stones fan who knows these shows, knows it's a damn miracle if you get in. Stop acting so surprised that it mostly VIPs.

Say what you want but something is extremely wrong when spoiled models and celebrities leaving a show like this after 15-20 minutes.

were people really leaving early? wow

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: MichaelLassen ()
Date: May 21, 2015 19:58

It just KILLS me to see the opportunities and leverage they miss out on with the lack of visionary (let alone updated) social media marketing. I know some of the biggest names in the "industry" and is not too shabby myself in that area, and it's just facepalm after facepalm when we talk about Stones and social media/marketing *sigh*

Having said that, I'm thrilled that they are still rocking the stage, just wish that Mick's at least prior big interest in being current, could translate into getting awesome social media/marketing help.

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: JumpinJeppeFlash ()
Date: May 21, 2015 19:59

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Ugh, stop whining, I slept on the street in Toronto in '05, was in line for 14 hours and didn't get in to the Phoenix (although they did let a few more fans into the show after it started.) Any Stones fan who knows these shows, knows it's a damn miracle if you get in. Stop acting so surprised that it mostly VIPs.

Say what you want but something is extremely wrong when spoiled models and celebrities leaving a show like this after 15-20 minutes.

were people really leaving early? wow

According to several eyewitnesses outside the venue MANY people left early long before the show was over.

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: Turner68 ()
Date: May 21, 2015 20:00

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Ugh, stop whining, I slept on the street in Toronto in '05, was in line for 14 hours and didn't get in to the Phoenix (although they did let a few more fans into the show after it started.) Any Stones fan who knows these shows, knows it's a damn miracle if you get in. Stop acting so surprised that it mostly VIPs.

Say what you want but something is extremely wrong when spoiled models and celebrities leaving a show like this after 15-20 minutes.

were people really leaving early? wow

According to several eyewitnesses outside the venue MANY people left early long before the show was over.

that's really depressing.

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: Captainchaos ()
Date: May 21, 2015 20:04

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Ugh, stop whining, I slept on the street in Toronto in '05, was in line for 14 hours and didn't get in to the Phoenix (although they did let a few more fans into the show after it started.) Any Stones fan who knows these shows, knows it's a damn miracle if you get in. Stop acting so surprised that it mostly VIPs.

Say what you want but something is extremely wrong when spoiled models and celebrities leaving a show like this after 15-20 minutes.

were people really leaving early? wow

According to several eyewitnesses outside the venue MANY people left early long before the show was over.

that's really depressing.

probly missed Mick Taylor elevating the band beyond novelty vegas act and into musical respect..

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: SoCalStone ()
Date: May 21, 2015 20:04

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I agree with you. I was also in line all day. The Stones management or security team could have sent someone out or relayed a message to say early on "Sorry guys, this is basically an industry show, if you don't have tickets, we will not be able to get you in."


They did say that, several times - and we didn't believe them! We stayed on in hope, even though we knew there wasn't much chance.
I never heard an announcement. When I finally made it close to the front around 9pm I heard a security guard respond directly to someone's question where he said something like "I don't know why you are all here, you aren't getting in." That is what needed to be said much earlier in the day. This would have been a perfect spot to make use of their social media. They could have tweeted a message saying "sorry to the fans outside, we are all full."
There were tv cameras and helicopters undoubtedly showing the lineup of fans waiting to get in. Its almost like they wanted us to be standing there to hype up their event.

OK, enough ranting...this will all be somewhat forgotten if they put out a DVD for the show!

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: JumpinJeppeFlash ()
Date: May 21, 2015 20:05

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micwer
Geeee, the ungratefulness of some of the fans on this board!

They could have made this show 100% private and didn't. They included some fans. They invited fans to their rehearsals during last tour. They invited back Mick Taylor for a while. They've added the choir on YCAGWYW. But it's never enough, is it?

We should be glad these old guys are still around to play so well!

Like many others you are missing the point, i´m not ungrateful, i´ve seen 12 shows since 2012 and can´t be more grateful but i think this behaviour against people whom in many cases have dedicated their life to the band is extremely ungrateful, that´s all. Not everyone can get in to a small gig like this, but they could at least let everyone queuing outside the venue for many hours have a chance getting a ticket before they let models and celebrities in whom in many cases don´t care at all and leaving the show before it even has ended.

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: SoCalStone ()
Date: May 21, 2015 20:10

So since we have been talking about all the celebrities who were there, let's hear some names. Who was there? There were tons of paparazzi across the street waiting to take pics.

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: swimtothemoon ()
Date: May 21, 2015 20:12

The positive news for today is the show was taped and may be in line for a quick release.

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: JumpinJeppeFlash ()
Date: May 21, 2015 20:13

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So since we have been talking about all the celebrities who were there, let's hear some names. Who was there? There were tons of paparazzi across the street waiting to take pics.

As seen in the pictures:

Bruce Willis
Jack Nicholson
Harry Styles (Now i´m throwing up...)

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: SoCalStone ()
Date: May 21, 2015 20:20

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So since we have been talking about all the celebrities who were there, let's hear some names. Who was there? There were tons of paparazzi across the street waiting to take pics.

As seen in the pictures:

Bruce Willis
Jack Nicholson
Harry Styles (Now i´m throwing up...)

Found a link:
[www.tmz.com]

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Date: May 21, 2015 20:29

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Yay for Matt Lee @ 1.22! The reporter says he traveled all the way from London. I guess it was a surprise for her to grasp the idea that people traveled far and wide. We know people who travel from all over the world to see The Stones!

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: LongBeachArena72 ()
Date: May 21, 2015 20:29

It was a private party. Big deal, nothing to get hung about. Sounds like a good show, interesting setlist.

Only thing that puzzles me: this HAS to be released, otherwise it baffles me. If you have a celebrities-only pre-tour show, why not just play warhorses? The stars are all gonna walk out at SWAY, so why not give them MISS YOU, et al?

The only reason for this setlist is to release something. It's the only way this makes any sense.

Of course, I live in LA and wouldn't go east of the 405 to see the modern-day Stones, so I may be entirely full of shit!

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: Dreamer ()
Date: May 21, 2015 20:32

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Ugh, stop whining, I slept on the street in Toronto in '05, was in line for 14 hours and didn't get in to the Phoenix (although they did let a few more fans into the show after it started.) Any Stones fan who knows these shows, knows it's a damn miracle if you get in. Stop acting so surprised that it mostly VIPs.


Exactly! smileys with beer

Re: The Rolling Stones at The Fonda Theatre LA Wed May 20
Posted by: likecats ()
Date: May 21, 2015 20:33

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Now.... I wonder if any of the cats that were hanging around out front and asking here about it got in for any part of the show... I was hoping for them the whole time. I wonder if they did?

I was pretty much at the front of the 'just in case' line up at Fonda until 9.15 - no one got in (as far as I know), except for one or two that were able to benefit from favours/connections.

syrel

I stayed until the end of the show. The crowd continued to thin out and I was the very last one to walk away. As far as I could tell, not one person got in who was hoping for a miracle ticket. I couldn't even find a scalper. It was a long, sad drive back to San Diego.

Sorry to hear that cats :( but if you did your best and it didnt work out.... then at least you own your story. You were there and you did what you could and waited until you were the very last person to walk away. That is admirable. A sad story, but a good story to have as your own.

Sometimes our stories of when things did not work out are the best stories. You have my admiration for what you did and hopefully in the long run you will get paid your due for your efforts.

Good job on trying. If I had been as close as San Diego I would have done what you did too with probably the same results and this is what I would saying to myself right now. All we can do is what we can do.

Have fun at opening night, it will be a blast.

I knew going into it that I had a micro-chance of actually getting in but I knew that I would regret it if I didn't at least try.
It wasn't boring. I was surrounded by friendly people, much nicer than the snobby ones walking by with tickets. I say snobby because most of them, when asked if they had an extra ticket, either pretended I didn't exist or gave me a screw you look. Only a few smiled and said they didn't.
Anyway, the last of us remained with stubborn hopes that we might be let in for the final few songs but it was not meant to be. No regrets about trying!

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