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HMS
Mick Taylor's effect on the Stones is heavily over-rated. He is just the guy who almost by coincidence was hanging around when Keith and Mick reached their creative peak as a songwriting team.
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HMS
Sticky Fingers and Exile (which of course should have been released as a single album) would be equally great without Mick Taylor
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HMS
IORR/GHS are two weak and very boring releases, although Taylor is playing on both albums. So if he were indeed the iconic figure in Stones history, these albums should have been far better than they are
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HMS
Mick Taylor was (maybe still is) a skillful guitar-player, but many others were/are equally/more gifted players.
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HMS
And don´t forget, the Stones took Taylor AFTER asking Ron Wood, who was unfortunately not available at that time.
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Ketyes it is! I agree there was a golden period from beggars to exile but half of that was recorded without taylor. and i strongly disagree that ghs or iorr were better than some girls or tatoo you. for live? yeah i think 69 was their best ever but i would still rank 75-81 over 72 or 73, so yes it is very debatableQuote
Brstonesfan
It is not even debatable that the Taylor era was the best...
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HMS
On Live-recordings Taylor bores me to death with his flawless but life-less virtuosity.
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HMS
Mick Taylors effect on the Stones is heavily over-rated. He is just the guy who almost by coincidence was hanging around when Keith and Mick reached their creative peak as a songwriting team.
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LuxuryStones
The most accomplished guitarist the Stones ever had.
Are you referring to technical accomplishment in particular?
There are many ways in which a guitar player can be accomplished.
In every way. Talent, I think that's the keyword. He could play anything, maybe lacked discipline though.
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LuxuryStones
The most accomplished guitarist the Stones ever had.
Are you referring to technical accomplishment in particular?
There are many ways in which a guitar player can be accomplished.
In every way. Talent, I think that's the keyword. He could play anything, maybe lacked discipline though.
But discipline is an important part of guitar playing...
Who would you say is the best guitarist the Stones ever had?
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Redhotcarpet
Are we allowed to ask or answer questions like that? If so I gotta go with Taylor. Keith too. Brian in 1964.
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Charlie Watts: "The Mick Taylor period was a creative peak for us. A tremendous jump in musical credibility. Now Keith won't say that; Keith, I think, would prefer to play with Ronnie as a partner. But Mick Taylor was an incredible virtuoso. Brian wasn't, he was a good all-round player, and Ronnie's the same. He'll play wonderful bottleneck guitar and pedal steel -- any instrument, like Brian -- but Mick gave our music terrific lyricism. Ronnie is a very likeable person, a great sense of humor. Musically, he didn't bring anything, but he has this facility to add to things." Mojo Magazine 2003
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Redhotcarpet
Charlie Watts: "The Mick Taylor period was a creative peak for us. A tremendous jump in musical credibility. Now Keith won't say that; Keith, I think, would prefer to play with Ronnie as a partner. But Mick Taylor was an incredible virtuoso. Brian wasn't, he was a good all-round player, and Ronnie's the same. He'll play wonderful bottleneck guitar and pedal steel -- any instrument, like Brian -- but Mick gave our music terrific lyricism. Ronnie is a very likeable person, a great sense of humor. Musically, he didn't bring anything, but he has this facility to add to things." Mojo Magazine 2003
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Charlie Watts: "The Mick Taylor period was a creative peak for us. A tremendous jump in musical credibility. Now Keith won't say that; Keith, I think, would prefer to play with Ronnie as a partner. But Mick Taylor was an incredible virtuoso. Brian wasn't, he was a good all-round player, and Ronnie's the same. He'll play wonderful bottleneck guitar and pedal steel -- any instrument, like Brian -- but Mick gave our music terrific lyricism. Ronnie is a very likeable person, a great sense of humor. Musically, he didn't bring anything, but he has this facility to add to things." Mojo Magazine 2003
Frank opinions regarding Ronnie. Frank enough to remind me of his comments regarding Jones aired on a BBC Top of the Pops 2 Stones Special in 2003.
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Redhotcarpet
Charlie Watts: "The Mick Taylor period was a creative peak for us. A tremendous jump in musical credibility. Now Keith won't say that; Keith, I think, would prefer to play with Ronnie as a partner. But Mick Taylor was an incredible virtuoso. Brian wasn't, he was a good all-round player, and Ronnie's the same. He'll play wonderful bottleneck guitar and pedal steel -- any instrument, like Brian -- but Mick gave our music terrific lyricism. Ronnie is a very likeable person, a great sense of humor. Musically, he didn't bring anything, but he has this facility to add to things." Mojo Magazine 2003
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Redhotcarpet
Charlie Watts: "The Mick Taylor period was a creative peak for us. A tremendous jump in musical credibility. Now Keith won't say that; Keith, I think, would prefer to play with Ronnie as a partner. But Mick Taylor was an incredible virtuoso. Brian wasn't, he was a good all-round player, and Ronnie's the same. He'll play wonderful bottleneck guitar and pedal steel -- any instrument, like Brian -- but Mick gave our music terrific lyricism. Ronnie is a very likeable person, a great sense of humor. Musically, he didn't bring anything, but he has this facility to add to things." Mojo Magazine 2003
Keith wouldn't say it. Neither would Mick...but they both know it...It's still too bad they didn't take advantage of that fact on the last tour. We'd actually be still talking about it...
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HMS
Mick Taylors effect on the Stones is heavily over-rated. He is just the guy who almost by coincidence was hanging around when Keith and Mick reached their creative peak as a songwriting team. Sticky Fingers and Exile (which of course should have been released as a single album) would be equally great without Mick Taylor. IORR/GHS are two weak and very boring releases, although Taylor is playing on both albums. So if he were indeed the iconic figure in Stones history, these albums should have been far better than they are. Mick Taylor was (maybe still is) a skillful guitar-player, but many others were/are equally/more gifted players. And don´t forget, the Stones took Taylor AFTER asking Ron Wood, who was unfortunately not available at that time. On Live-recordings Taylor bores me to death with his flawless but life-less virtuosity.
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HMS
Sticky Fingers and Exile (which of course should have been released as a single album) would be equally great without Mick Taylor. On Live-recordings Taylor bores me to death with his flawless but life-less virtuosity.
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Charlie Watts: "The Mick Taylor period was a creative peak for us. A tremendous jump in musical credibility. Now Keith won't say that; Keith, I think, would prefer to play with Ronnie as a partner. But Mick Taylor was an incredible virtuoso. Brian wasn't, he was a good all-round player, and Ronnie's the same. He'll play wonderful bottleneck guitar and pedal steel -- any instrument, like Brian -- but Mick gave our music terrific lyricism. Ronnie is a very likeable person, a great sense of humor. Musically, he didn't bring anything, but he has this facility to add to things." Mojo Magazine 2003
Frank opinions regarding Ronnie. Frank enough to remind me of his comments regarding Jones aired on a BBC Top of the Pops 2 Stones Special in 2003.
Strong words from Charlie indeed. "Musically Ronnie didn't bring anything."
Its very true. Well what he did bring was not worth bringing except for the weaving !!
You discover the Stones six months ago !! And you tell US about TaylorQuote
HMS
Mick Taylors effect on the Stones is heavily over-rated. He is just the guy who almost by coincidence was hanging around when Keith and Mick reached their creative peak as a songwriting team. Sticky Fingers and Exile (which of course should have been released as a single album) would be equally great without Mick Taylor. IORR/GHS are two weak and very boring releases, although Taylor is playing on both albums. So if he were indeed the iconic figure in Stones history, these albums should have been far better than they are. Mick Taylor was (maybe still is) a skillful guitar-player, but many others were/are equally/more gifted players. And don´t forget, the Stones took Taylor AFTER asking Ron Wood, who was unfortunately not available at that time. On Live-recordings Taylor bores me to death with his flawless but life-less virtuosity.
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5strings
You discover the Stones six months ago !! And you tell US about Taylor
How great you are man !!!!!
Your Rolling Stones are a merchandising band,mine were a rock n roll band.
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HMS
Yes I did. From 1990 on every tour at least one concert and I had a good time at every concert, even without Taylor onstage.
If the Rolling Stones are a merchandising group, because Mr. Taylor wanted to be in this last tour? Money? Why then criticize the band for its exclusion?Quote
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HMS
Mick Taylors effect on the Stones is heavily over-rated. He is just the guy who almost by coincidence was hanging around when Keith and Mick reached their creative peak as a songwriting team. Sticky Fingers and Exile (which of course should have been released as a single album) would be equally great without Mick Taylor. IORR/GHS are two weak and very boring releases, although Taylor is playing on both albums. So if he were indeed the iconic figure in Stones history, these albums should have been far better than they are. Mick Taylor was (maybe still is) a skillful guitar-player, but many others were/are equally/more gifted players. And don´t forget, the Stones took Taylor AFTER asking Ron Wood, who was unfortunately not available at that time. On Live-recordings Taylor bores me to death with his flawless but life-less virtuosity.
How great you are man !!!!!
Your Rolling Stones are a merchandising band,mine were a rock n roll band.
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HMS
That´s the curse of my age.
Wish I had seen them around 1975/76 but was eight years of age back then.
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HMS
Yes I did. From 1990 on every tour at least one concert and I had a good time at every concert, even without Taylor onstage.
Hard Fan from 1982 and first live in 1990, OMG i'm sorry for you
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HMS
Yes I did. From 1990 on every tour at least one concert and I had a good time at every concert, even without Taylor onstage.
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Witness
To honour Charlie Watts for this most marvellous quote, be fair to Charlie and do not strip his outlook for its vital nuances. About Ronnie: "Musically, he didn't bring anything, ......." has, nonetheless, an important continuation, "....., but he has this facility to add to things".
If we want to, we may try to interprete that point of view. But towards the complete sentence, I think.