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Re: Track Talk: Street Fighting Man
Posted by: HonkeyTonkFlash ()
Date: July 30, 2016 03:02

The best live versions of SFM don't even try to copy the record; they transcend it. Think Ya Ya's, Brussels, even Live Licks - they all kick ass!

"Gonna find my way to heaven ..."

Re: Track Talk: Street Fighting Man
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: July 30, 2016 21:50

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how GYYYO! remains their best live release.

But it is heavily overdubbed!
You can make almost everything stellar by overdubbing, without technical tricks GYYO would be average at best, I suppose. GYYO: no competition for Shine A Light, which is a true and honest live document without putting on make-up afterwards like they did on GYYYO. How can you know that it is overdubbed and still think it´s their best live album...

The vocals are "heavily" overdubbed. Even "without technical tricks GYYO would be" great "at best". How you can't hear that is astounding.

But you think DIRTY WORK and SHINE A LIGHT are masterpieces. SHINE A LIGHT is horrendous, an absolute stain on the discography of their live albums.

Re: Track Talk: Street Fighting Man
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: July 30, 2016 22:00

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A magnificent call to arms for the world's restless youth...

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This is the soundtrack song of that crazy year 1968... The Stones probably would not ever again be so urgent and reflecting the zeitgeist as they then were with this song. If there is ever a use for the term 'relevance', it applies just here.

I've heard this kind of stuff before about "Street Fighting Man" and it bothers me. I remember 1968 pretty well. Those were turbulent times. All of the late 1960s were. I remember driving across Los Angeles with my mom during the Watts Riots and being stopped by heavily armed National Guardsmen. I remember the anger against the U.S. government during the Vietnam War.

Here's what bothers me about "Street Fighting Man": Rock stars just play at revolution.

"The time is right for violent revolution," Jagger sings. Could he actually stomach that kind of violet upheaval? All those stoned hippies from the 1960s who talked revolution only talked it.

I love the music itself in this song. Richards laid down a great guitar sound. But the lyrics always bothered me. I've been to several Stones concerts where they played this one, usually as an encore. I gazed at all the stoned people around me and thought, "This revolution is for play."

Anyway, these are just my thoughts. I never cared for all the 1960s calls for revolution and considered them phoney. The punk rock reaction to all that phoniness was wonderful and one of the reasons I liked early punk rock.

They told me that Street Fighting Man was subversive. Course it's subversive, we said. It's stupid to think that you can start a revolution with a record. I wish you could!
- Mick Jagger, 1968

(The song) says: But what can a poor boy do, except sing in a rock and roll band - what else can I do besides sing? The song itself is the only thing that has to do with street fighting.
- Mick Jagger, 1969

I don't think (people) understand what we're trying to do, or what Mick's talking about, like on Street Fighting Man. We're not saying we want to be in the streets, but we're a rock and roll band, just the reverse... Politics is what we were trying to get away from in the first place.
- Keith Richards, on tour in 1969

I don't think violence is necessary in this society to bring about political change. I was never supportive of the Weathermen or anything like that. I NEVER believed that the violent course was necessary for our society. For other socieites perhaps, but in ours, it's totally unnecessary. It's just morally reprehensible. And that's what I'm saying in (Street Fighting Man), really. However romantic the notion of manning the barricades may seem... I mean, that romantic ideal actually brought down a government very close to (England) - the de Gaulle government in France. And in America, you had the rioting at the Democratic convention in the same year. So there was a lot of street violence going on, for very ill-defined reasons. I'm not quite sure what all that was really about, when you think about it now.
- Mick Jagger, 1987

[www.timeisonourside.com]


Hey Pietro, leave the "just play at revolution" to Che Guevara etc... because they were such a success, huh.



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Street Fighting Man
Posted by: stoneskid ()
Date: September 19, 2020 04:56


Re: Street Fighting Man
Posted by: jbwelda ()
Date: September 19, 2020 06:02

They were a bit shy playing it at Altamont, confronted by some real street fighting men.

jb

Re: Street Fighting Man
Posted by: DaveG ()
Date: September 19, 2020 06:12

Call me a bit dense, but I honestly never made the lyrical connection between Street Fighting Man and Dancing in the Streets. Makes perfect sense!

Re: Street Fighting Man
Posted by: Taylor1 ()
Date: September 19, 2020 12:32

I wish I was old enough to have seen been sitting in the front row at one of their 1972 and particularly 1973 concerts.That closing number of Street Fighting Man is the most exhilarating and dynamiting performance in rock history

Re: Street Fighting Man
Posted by: redkev ()
Date: September 19, 2020 17:52

When they opened with SFM at the first London Stadium concert in 2018 it blew my mind and set the tone for a great night. Everything about the studio version is perfect including the closing bars which make one of the best outro's ever recorded. I was born in '68 so can only guess what it must have been like to hear it when it was released. It's one of those songs which expertly captures the times and just preserves it perfectly. Simply put, it's a masterpiece.

Re: Street Fighting Man
Posted by: snorton ()
Date: September 19, 2020 19:12

SFM also influenced Fleetwood Mac "Go your own way"

[americansongwriter.com]

Re: Track Talk: Street Fighting Man
Posted by: KRiffhard ()
Date: September 20, 2020 21:23

The Boss cover
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Re: Track Talk: Street Fighting Man
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: September 20, 2020 21:43

This is the greatest song ever recorded by any band, that's not called the Rolling Stones or the Beatles.

Re: Track Talk: Street Fighting Man
Posted by: stonesstein ()
Date: September 20, 2020 22:54

Always loved Oasis' and Rod Stewart's cover versions of this classic

stonesstein

Kick me like you kicked before.
I can't even feel the pain no more.

Re: Track Talk: Street Fighting Man
Posted by: LeonidP ()
Date: September 21, 2020 05:48

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Always loved Oasis' and Rod Stewart's cover versions of this classic

Stones original and YaYas are King!

I never liked Rod Stewart's version at all, but Oasis does a pretty good job with it.

Re: Track Talk: Street Fighting Man
Posted by: dunkan77 ()
Date: September 24, 2020 14:07

Hi guys

Here is a link to a book dedicated entirely to Street Fighting Man

286 pages, very documentated...a "must-have"

The Author is an italian authority on The Rolling Stones

[www.amazon.com]

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