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tomcasagranda
I think the downside to Clapton is that, live-album wise, he can still push the envelope. Studio-wise, with the exception of the JJ Cale collaboration, he is treading water, and has been since parts of Reptile.
I think the albums Clapton did in the mid 90s, i.e. Unplugged, From The Cradle, and Pilgrim, are challenging works of art. Back Home is a bit complacent, so too Clapton, and Old Sock. However, Clapton has fallen back into the old ways of the 1980s, i.e. Behind The Sun and August, in that he's making music that is disposable. Journeyman was a brief respite from this. I also think that he should, possibly, ditch Simon Climie, and get himself a new producer.
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GasLightStreet
Stonesrule, all you need are your ears.
Do you need me to be the authority for you that Hootie And The Blowfish and The Eagles suck as well or can you figure that one out yourself?
Did you actually read what I said? It doesn't look like it. I don't need to share my guitar expertise and what I know I'm talking about because my guitar expertise has nothing to do with Clapton being boring. Neil Pert is a hell of a drummer but he's boring too.
You're confusing it. Boring does not mean they suck ie they are bad, incapable, etc. Clapton, as I stated, is an incredible guitar player. It's just that he's boring.
However, Barbara Streisand is a horrible singer. Do I need to be a female to be the authority on that?
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GasLightStreet
Clapton is boring. Period. What, you want to hear the blues being played or want to hear blues played?
Listen to Hound Dog Taylor. Elmore James. RL Burnside. There's so many of 'em. Clapton is elevator music compared to actual blues players. He's a mathematician with guitar, they can't read or write but know how to play (I'm making a point; I don't really know). He's an excellent, fluid and perfect guitar player, they're messy, full of screwups and emotional.
He heard Robert Johnson and fell in love with blues and now he can play Robert Johnson better than Robert Johnson. With exception to one thing: any feeling at all.
A copy machine can churn out perfect reproductions of something boring.
That's what Clapton is. A boring copy machine and a white piece of paper that churns out the same boring shit.
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Poetry
To each his own, I guess.
As a Clapton fan, I like his playing a lot, and I feel a lot of emotion in his playing, especially in the older era. Since he became clean and happier personally, he got a wholy different vibe. Unlike most of younger players trying to sound like SRV, who sounded a bit too much like Hendrix combined with Albert King for my tastes, although he was not boring in the least, and had lots of emotion in his playing.
And I do love most of the old blues guys. BTW, I always preferred Son House to Robert Johnson.
Is EC boring? To some he is, to some he is not. And neither is a scientific fact. Only an opinion. Like things I mentioned earlier.
I have no problem accepting he bores some people, as some artists other rave about are boring to me.
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tomcasagranda
I think the downside to Clapton is that, live-album wise, he can still push the envelope. Studio-wise, with the exception of the JJ Cale collaboration, he is treading water, and has been since parts of Reptile.
I think the albums Clapton did in the mid 90s, i.e. Unplugged, From The Cradle, and Pilgrim, are challenging works of art. Back Home is a bit complacent, so too Clapton, and Old Sock. However, Clapton has fallen back into the old ways of the 1980s, i.e. Behind The Sun and August, in that he's making music that is disposable. Journeyman was a brief respite from this. I also think that he should, possibly, ditch Simon Climie, and get himself a new producer.
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tomcasagranda
I think the downside to Clapton is that, live-album wise, he can still push the envelope. Studio-wise, with the exception of the JJ Cale collaboration, he is treading water, and has been since parts of Reptile.
I think the albums Clapton did in the mid 90s, i.e. Unplugged, From The Cradle, and Pilgrim, are challenging works of art. Back Home is a bit complacent, so too Clapton, and Old Sock. However, Clapton has fallen back into the old ways of the 1980s, i.e. Behind The Sun and August, in that he's making music that is disposable. Journeyman was a brief respite from this. I also think that he should, possibly, ditch Simon Climie, and get himself a new producer.
Hey there
got some amazing boots of the bluesbreakers & cream live stuff but outside that small world, I'm not too familiar with Clapton at all, could you recommend whats the best boots or official he's done thats got the music as down as he did back then?
also whats his best studio stuff that leans on the aboveapproach ie exhilerating, quality blues?
Cheers!
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keefriffhard4life
everyone knows claptons best studio stuff came before 1978
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trainarollin
I feel his best work in last 20 years was the one he did with JJ Cale 5 yrs ago or so.
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chop
I was never impressed with Clapton the performer other than with Cream.
He always seemed to be unmotivated, going through the motions...never really throwing himself into his performances. When has he ever ripped off a ferocious Layla in concert like the album.
He's just too relaxed out there. Like a lounge singer
Tell you who really impressed me was Fleetwood Mac and Tom Petty. They still care at least
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stonesrule
Is Clapton's "decline" similar to Keith's?
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stonesrule
Is Clapton's "decline" similar to Keith's?
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DandelionPowderman
Both are still excellent at what they do, imo.
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TurkuStonesFan
This topic has become boring and unamusing just like its topic.
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GasLightStreet
Clapton is boring. Period. What, you want to hear the blues being played or want to hear blues played?
Listen to Hound Dog Taylor. Elmore James. RL Burnside. There's so many of 'em. Clapton is elevator music compared to actual blues players. He's a mathematician with guitar, they can't read or write but know how to play (I'm making a point; I don't really know). He's an excellent, fluid and perfect guitar player, they're messy, full of screwups and emotional.
He heard Robert Johnson and fell in love with blues and now he can play Robert Johnson better than Robert Johnson. With exception to one thing: any feeling at all.
A copy machine can churn out perfect reproductions of something boring.
That's what Clapton is. A boring copy machine and a white piece of paper that churns out the same boring shit.
Excellent post. Those that challenge you as to how many times you've heard Clapton live don't get it. I have no doubt that Clapton is a better technical player than so many others including myself and I am far from being a pro but I have a soul when I play.
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RockinJive
The same people that put down Clapton would probably ask for his autograph and tell him how great he is if they had a chance to meet him.