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This recording will, most probably, be forgotten in a couple of weeks if it isn't followed by a tour of sorts. Tv appearances does a lot to sell the album though.
By reading here you can easily get the impression that this album is a masterpiece and a coming classic - which it isn't!
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Jordan can ape Charlie.
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Stoneage
This recording will, most probably, be forgotten in a couple of weeks if it isn't followed by a tour of sorts. Tv appearances does a lot to sell the album though.
By reading here you can easily get the impression that this album is a masterpiece and a coming classic - which it isn't!
It could also be that people are excited to have some new Stones related music, and not much else going on, so they are eager to express their thoughts on it. Not to mention, the songs to many of us are very good, and for some reason that bothers other people.
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Hairball
Some people will have a positive reaction to the album, while others may have a negative reaction. Different strokes for different folks.
Probably not everyone's cup of tea, but it should be no surprise that on a Rolling Stones forum it is being welcomed with open arms by a majority.
As for me, won't ever be swayed by critics one way or the other (especially amateur writers on a fan site).
I've got two ears, a heart, and a mind, and I let those do the deciding for me.
As for the album being forgotten if it isn't followed by a tour...doubtful.
There will be plenty more of Keith promo business one way or another.
And Christmas is coming - the goose is getting fat. Please put a penny in the old man's hat...lol
I'm pretty sure there will be plenty of copies purchased as gifts.
Whatever the case the album will never be forgotten by me, and that's really all that matters.
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This recording will, most probably, be forgotten in a couple of weeks if it isn't followed by a tour of sorts. Tv appearances does a lot to sell the album though.
By reading here you can easily get the impression that this album is a masterpiece and a coming classic - which it isn't!
It could also be that people are excited to have some new Stones related music, and not much else going on, so they are eager to express their thoughts on it. Not to mention, the songs to many of us are very good, and for some reason that bothers other people.
yeah why does it bother people that some of us are buzzed by this album
If Mick released an album and i did not think much of it, i would say so and then leave the Mick Jagger new album thread alone
But people on this thread just keep coming back again and again to tell us that what we love is shit
I'm done with this, unless Keith decides to tour there is nothing left for me to say on here
Its so depressing we got someone yesterday saying Keith's second hand smoke probably gave his wife bladder cancer, its just despicable talk and i have had enough
Hairball says exactly what i think about just about everything so thanks to him my input is not needed anyway
Good on ya hairball your fantastic
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Hairball says exactly what i think about just about everything so thanks to him my input is not needed anyway
Good on ya hairball your fantastic
Thats great DP that you love the record,what l don't get is why some here(Not You) get all bend out of shape,when someone says like me that l don't like it,is just my opinion as a fan,like someone else said before different strokes for different folks,nothing to get offended and insulting (calling people MORONS) for giving our opinions....Quote
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CH is still my favourite among Keith's three studio albums. I keep getting new favourites all the time. First, it was Suspicious, Nothing On Me and Lover’s Plea. Now, Something For Nothing, Blues In The Morning and Illusion are the best tracks.
A LOVELY album
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I was speaking out against Doxa's post when she said that Keith had a dilemma in his authenticity
No, she (sic) didn't mean that. The dilemma not lies in Keith's authenticity - he is very authentic - but in attempt to get as close as possible to a given old 'authentic' genre, that blossomed in rather different cultural circumstances, and probably has died as a living genre times ago, for example, blues or reggae. When one gets there, and tries to reconstruct everything as accurate as possible, one stops being very original/authentic.
But I know I speak mostly to blind ears here - for Keith worshippers he surely is the biggest blues man or reggae brother ever lived. Forget all those robertjohnsons and bobmarleys.
For me he is a VERY authentic rock musician, but I don't find him an authentic blues musician or reggae musician, if compared to the real masters in those genres. I guess mr. Richards would also agree with me.
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of course he would agree with you. indeed that was the point of the film "under the influence" (i recommend it if you haven't seen it). but that's not particularly relevant is it? bob dylan wasn't considered a particularly authentic folk singer, and certainly wasn't after he went electric and was called judas; when the blues went electric there were similar feelings; etc.
i don't see the discussion being about authenticity, or at least i don't see that as the relevant discussion when it comes to considering "crosseyed heart". instead it's about whether keith has anything meaningful to add to what has already been done in interpreting these genres. (i think you would agree with me). i am still mulling this over, but i think there is something interesting in the juxtaposition of them all together and, as i mentioned previously, keith bringing in his unique sense of rhythm. but now this is a matter of personal taste of course.
Sorry I was about to answer to your post earlier about that "adding something meaningful" - the part I also tried to emphasize in my review pages ago - but somehow all these emerged threads made me confused and I lost my track...
Yeah, I agree with you that it is Keith's idiosyncratic way to play, his musicianship - especially his unique sense of rhythm and timing - that offers the 'something else' factor. The question is how much does it add. I guess for many Richards fans that alone 'justifies' the release, but unfortunately I discovered that for me that wasn't enough to make the interpretations very interesting or unique. They are like one needs to have a very specific Keith Richards-trained ears to hear the uniqueness/greatness (which I, seemingly don't possess anymore). What I find myself looking for was a bit stronger presence and identity in singing and song-writing (again, for many what is given is enough - the question of how big Keith 'fans' we are). For that reason I made the comparison to Dylan who has also played similarly with old genres lately (I regret that since now Dylan seems to be the pissing target of Keith devotees). But that comparison might not do justice for Keith, because those two guys seem to approach music a bit differently (Keith relying more on musical landscapes and rhythm, Bobby more on songs themselves).
But let me say that this is just explicating the reasons why I don't consider the album such a heralded masterpiece like many here seem to do. Keith has made a very good album which I think deserves 'serious' criticism. Just trying to put things into some kind of perspective.
- Doxa
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CH is still my favourite among Keith's three studio albums. I keep getting new favourites all the time. First, it was Suspicious, Nothing On Me and Lover’s Plea. Now, Something For Nothing, Blues In The Morning and Illusion are the best tracks.
A LOVELY album
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DandelionPowderman
CH is still my favourite among Keith's three studio albums. I keep getting new favourites all the time. First, it was Suspicious, Nothing On Me and Lover’s Plea. Now, Something For Nothing, Blues In The Morning and Illusion are the best tracks.
A LOVELY album
My thoughts, exactly. Perhaps some people would have wanted to listen to more rockin' tunes on this album, but in my opinion Keith recorded some of his best ballads and made an amazing version of Goodnight Irene, which is one of my favorites from the album.
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As for the album being forgotten if it isn't followed by a tour...doubtful.
There will be plenty more of Keith promo business one way or another.
And Christmas is coming - the goose is getting fat. Please put a penny in the old man's hat...lol
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Prisoner of Loneliness’ by Gregory Isaacs
....Maybe??? they mean Gregory Isaacs - Love Is Overdue
which was his first major hit for him in Jamaica early 70's and
does contain the line prisoner of loneliness....
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I am not a fan of the mix of this record, way too muddy.
Probably the way Keith wanted it.
Blues In The Morning and Amnesia are muddy. The rest isn't.
And thank you, Keith and Steve, for dirtying up those two tracks!
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Bashlets
Hey # 11 is nothing to sneeze at in the USA. Fantastic album all the way around. My favorite since Tattoo YOU. I just cant stop playing it. There really isnt one clunker on it imho. Considering it is probably not getting any air play # 11 is awesome. Talk is Cheap only peaked at what? # 23 or so and MAIN OFFENDER did not even crack the top 50 so 11 is good.
best since Tattoo You? You can not be serious!
...maybe best since Talk is Cheap that is the best Stones album after Tatoo You.
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Hey # 11 is nothing to sneeze at in the USA. Fantastic album all the way around. My favorite since Tattoo YOU. I just cant stop playing it. There really isnt one clunker on it imho. Considering it is probably not getting any air play # 11 is awesome. Talk is Cheap only peaked at what? # 23 or so and MAIN OFFENDER did not even crack the top 50 so 11 is good.
best since Tattoo You? You can not be serious!
...maybe best since Talk is Cheap that is the best Stones album after Tatoo You.
The best since Main Offender that was the best since Some Girls
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Hey # 11 is nothing to sneeze at in the USA. Fantastic album all the way around. My favorite since Tattoo YOU. I just cant stop playing it. There really isnt one clunker on it imho. Considering it is probably not getting any air play # 11 is awesome. Talk is Cheap only peaked at what? # 23 or so and MAIN OFFENDER did not even crack the top 50 so 11 is good.
best since Tattoo You? You can not be serious!
...maybe best since Talk is Cheap that is the best Stones album after Tatoo You.
The best since Main Offender that was the best since Some Girls
now to top it off i feel like i should say that "run run rudolph" was the best single since "brown sugar" but.... i just can't do it ;-)
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I have to say it again. Lover's Plea is among the best work of the Stone and Richards. It's utterly fantastic.
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Yes. My favourites till now are "Suspicious", "Illusion", "Just A Gift", "Goodnight Irene" and "Lover's Plea". So, the ballads, one way or other.
The rockers I find okay, but sound less special to me. Yet.
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the ballads wouldn't sound as good without the rockers mixed in. it's a very carefully thought out album IMO. maybe it will be one of the last true "albums" as it's clearly intended to be listened to all the way through.