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I'm noticing that Paul McCartney routinely does 30+ songs in a concert. Does he do full versions of each song? I'd be in heaven with a 30+ song Stones concert...
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Blueranger
The thing simply is, that Macca are in better shape than The Stones.
Sure enough, Jagger can perform every bit as much as McCartney, but Mick are dependent of the other Stones, where for example Keith, can't do it for more than two hours. Paul are in great shape and can hire the backing musicians he needs.
Remember The Stones in 1994/95, played almost 2 and a half hours.
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The thing simply is, that Macca are in better shape than The Stones.
Sure enough, Jagger can perform every bit as much as McCartney, but Mick are dependent of the other Stones, where for example Keith, can't do it for more than two hours. Paul are in great shape and can hire the backing musicians he needs.
Remember The Stones in 1994/95, played almost 2 and a half hours.
First, it is a complete myth that McCartney is out playing 3 hour shows. He isn't, unless you count the video with Beatles tunes that plays before he comes on stage. His current show, where he is performing live, last 2 hours & 15 minutes. And while Paul is in great shape, he isn't in as fit as Mick... nor is doing half the activities that Mick does at any given show. He is charming, he basically moves a little bit and talks much more between songs. The big moment in the show is when he stands on a riser that elevates him some 40 feet above the main stage. He also has a very young band backing him up. They are great musicians but no well known names. A comparable would be if Mick ditched the entire band and went out with session musicians. Now we all know Paul has little option to tour otherwise with the exception of going out with Ringo.
As for the Stones, their shows can still last 2 and half hours. That was still the case when they were playing North American last year. I saw both McCartney & the Stones last June (2014) and the two Stones shows in Philadelphia were both longer than Sir Paul's show. Remember the 14 on Fire Tour saw a reduction in the number of songs played with only 19 being played on any given night.
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Blueranger
The thing simply is, that Macca are in better shape than The Stones.
Sure enough, Jagger can perform every bit as much as McCartney, but Mick are dependent of the other Stones, where for example Keith, can't do it for more than two hours. Paul are in great shape and can hire the backing musicians he needs.
Remember The Stones in 1994/95, played almost 2 and a half hours.
First, it is a complete myth that McCartney is out playing 3 hour shows. He isn't, unless you count the video with Beatles tunes that plays before he comes on stage. His current show, where he is performing live, last 2 hours & 15 minutes. And while Paul is in great shape, he isn't in as fit as Mick... nor is doing half the activities that Mick does at any given show. He is charming, he basically moves a little bit and talks much more between songs. The big moment in the show is when he stands on a riser that elevates him some 40 feet above the main stage. He also has a very young band backing him up. They are great musicians but no well known names. A comparable would be if Mick ditched the entire band and went out with session musicians. Now we all know Paul has little option to tour otherwise with the exception of going out with Ringo.
As for the Stones, their shows can still last 2 and half hours. That was still the case when they were playing North American last year. I saw both McCartney & the Stones last June (2014) and the two Stones shows in Philadelphia were both longer than Sir Paul's show. Remember the 14 on Fire Tour saw a reduction in the number of songs played with only 19 being played on any given night.
McCartney doesn't play concerts that last 3 hours but he comes very close They are far longer than 2 hours 15 minutes and usually are about 2 hours 45 minutes from when he first walks on stage to when he exits the stage after the encores I don't know what show you saw that only lasted 2 hours 15 minutes that was a regular tour show. His shows usued to be shorter, but in the past 5-6 years have grown longer I have seen a bunch of these shows since 2009: Coachella Festival in 2009, L.A. 2 times and San Francisco in 2010, Las Vegas in 2011, Vancouver in 2012 and Seattle in 2013 and these shows have all been well past 2 and a half hours and in some cases around 2 hours 50-55 minutes.
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The thing simply is, that Macca are in better shape than The Stones.
Sure enough, Jagger can perform every bit as much as McCartney, but Mick are dependent of the other Stones, where for example Keith, can't do it for more than two hours. Paul are in great shape and can hire the backing musicians he needs.
Remember The Stones in 1994/95, played almost 2 and a half hours.
First, it is a complete myth that McCartney is out playing 3 hour shows. He isn't, unless you count the video with Beatles tunes that plays before he comes on stage. His current show, where he is performing live, last 2 hours & 15 minutes. And while Paul is in great shape, he isn't in as fit as Mick... nor is doing half the activities that Mick does at any given show. He is charming, he basically moves a little bit and talks much more between songs. The big moment in the show is when he stands on a riser that elevates him some 40 feet above the main stage. He also has a very young band backing him up. They are great musicians but no well known names. A comparable would be if Mick ditched the entire band and went out with session musicians. Now we all know Paul has little option to tour otherwise with the exception of going out with Ringo.
As for the Stones, their shows can still last 2 and half hours. That was still the case when they were playing North American last year. I saw both McCartney & the Stones last June (2014) and the two Stones shows in Philadelphia were both longer than Sir Paul's show. Remember the 14 on Fire Tour saw a reduction in the number of songs played with only 19 being played on any given night.
McCartney doesn't play concerts that last 3 hours but he comes very close They are far longer than 2 hours 15 minutes and usually are about 2 hours 45 minutes from when he first walks on stage to when he exits the stage after the encores I don't know what show you saw that only lasted 2 hours 15 minutes that was a regular tour show. His shows usued to be shorter, but in the past 5-6 years have grown longer I have seen a bunch of these shows since 2009: Coachella Festival in 2009, L.A. 2 times and San Francisco in 2010, Las Vegas in 2011, Vancouver in 2012 and Seattle in 2013 and these shows have all been well past 2 and a half hours and in some cases around 2 hours 50-55 minutes.
I saw Paul's show in Vancouver and then the Stones in Toronto last year. Paul was definitely longer, maybe 30 minutes.
With that said, didn't feel at all let down by the length of the Stones show...if anything a bit surprised by how long the Paul show was.
Great to have seen them within 8 months of one another!
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The thing simply is, that Macca are in better shape than The Stones.
Sure enough, Jagger can perform every bit as much as McCartney, but Mick are dependent of the other Stones, where for example Keith, can't do it for more than two hours. Paul are in great shape and can hire the backing musicians he needs.
Remember The Stones in 1994/95, played almost 2 and a half hours.
First, it is a complete myth that McCartney is out playing 3 hour shows. He isn't, unless you count the video with Beatles tunes that plays before he comes on stage. His current show, where he is performing live, last 2 hours & 15 minutes. And while Paul is in great shape, he isn't in as fit as Mick... nor is doing half the activities that Mick does at any given show. He is charming, he basically moves a little bit and talks much more between songs. The big moment in the show is when he stands on a riser that elevates him some 40 feet above the main stage. He also has a very young band backing him up. They are great musicians but no well known names. A comparable would be if Mick ditched the entire band and went out with session musicians. Now we all know Paul has little option to tour otherwise with the exception of going out with Ringo.
As for the Stones, their shows can still last 2 and half hours. That was still the case when they were playing North American last year. I saw both McCartney & the Stones last June (2014) and the two Stones shows in Philadelphia were both longer than Sir Paul's show. Remember the 14 on Fire Tour saw a reduction in the number of songs played with only 19 being played on any given night.
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He also has a very young band backing him up.
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The thing simply is, that Macca are in better shape than The Stones.
Sure enough, Jagger can perform every bit as much as McCartney, but Mick are dependent of the other Stones, where for example Keith, can't do it for more than two hours. Paul are in great shape and can hire the backing musicians he needs.
Remember The Stones in 1994/95, played almost 2 and a half hours.
First, it is a complete myth that McCartney is out playing 3 hour shows. He isn't, unless you count the video with Beatles tunes that plays before heQuote
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comes on stage. His current show, where he is performing live, last 2 hours & 15 minutes. And while Paul is in great shape, he isn't in as fit as Mick... nor is doing half the activities that Mick does at any given show. He is charming, he basically moves a little bit and talks much more between songs. The big moment in the show is when he stands on a riser that elevates him some 40 feet above the main stage. He also has a very young band backing him up. They are great musicians but no well known names. A comparable would be if Mick ditched the entire band and went out with session musicians. Now we all know Paul has little option to tour otherwise with the exception of going out with Ringo.
As for the Stones, their shows can still last 2 and half hours. That was still the case when they were playing North American last year. I saw both McCartney & the Stones last June (2014) and the two Stones shows in Philadelphia were both longer than Sir Paul's show. Remember the 14 on Fire Tour saw a reduction in the number of songs played with only 19 being played on any given night.
McCartney doesn't play concerts that last 3 hours but he comes very close They are far longer than 2 hours 15 minutes and usually are about 2 hours 45 minutes from when he first walks on stage to when he exits the stage after the encores I don't know what show you saw that only lasted 2 hours 15 minutes that was a regular tour show. His shows usued to be shorter, but in the past 5-6 years have grown longer I have seen a bunch of these shows since 2009: Coachella Festival in 2009, L.A. 2 times and San Francisco in 2010, Las Vegas in 2011, Vancouver in 2012 and Seattle in 2013 and these shows have all been well past 2 and a half hours and in some cases around 2 hours 50-55 minutes.
I saw Paul's show in Vancouver and then the Stones in Toronto last year. Paul was definitely longer, maybe 30 minutes.
With that said, didn't feel at all let down by the length of the Stones show...if anything a bit surprised by how long the Paul show was.
Great to have seen them within 8 months of one another!
I can't comment on how long Sir Paul's shows use to last 5 years ago. What I can tell you is that his show in Brooklyn last year last 2 hours and 15 minutes. I know this because I was there and it was almost exactly 6 months to the day from when the Stones played the same venue. It was also a Saturday night for both shows.
As for how long he played in other cities, I can't comment because I wasn't there. But I can point you to a site that provides the set lists:
[www.setlist.fm]
And a very simple review shows you that his setlist doesn't change that much at any given point in his tour. It would seem it takes longer to play the same 30 songs if he is in Canada? Or perhaps he just like to talk more to our friends to the north?
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And perhaps you overestimated the lenght of the show you saw?
I definitely had the song count wrong when I stated 30 but I definitely recall looking at my watch when he took the stage just around 9:15 that night and then when he left the stage at 11:30pm. Now I am not counting the lenghty video that started playing around 8:45pm leading into his performance. If you counted that, you would have 2 hours and 45 minutes. And how is it possible to play nearly 40 songs in just over 2 hours.... easy when a good many of them are only 2 minutes long. And I am not making that up. A good many of the tunes on the setlist are played in under 3 minutes.
And the lenghty of time really doesn't matter, because the Stones still deliver a superior live experience. I couldn't believe the contrast of the two shows held in the same venue on the same night of the week just 6 months apart? I know crowds can be different (even with the same band playing) but it was like night and day. But please forgive me if I show favor to the Stones on a Stones message board. If we are merely counting songs, Sir Paul will win all the time. Excitement is a different matter.
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And perhaps you overestimated the lenght of the show you saw?
I definitely had the song count wrong when I stated 30 but I definitely recall looking at my watch when he took the stage just around 9:15 that night and then when he left the stage at 11:30pm. Now I am not counting the lenghty video that started playing around 8:45pm leading into his performance. If you counted that, you would have 2 hours and 45 minutes. And how is it possible to play nearly 40 songs in just over 2 hours.... easy when a good many of them are only 2 minutes long. And I am not making that up. A good many of the tunes on the setlist are played in under 3 minutes.
And the lenghty of time really doesn't matter, because the Stones still deliver a superior live experience. I couldn't believe the contrast of the two shows held in the same venue on the same night of the week just 6 months apart? I know crowds can be different (even with the same band playing) but it was like night and day. But please forgive me if I show favor to the Stones on a Stones message board. If we are merely counting songs, Sir Paul will win all the time. Excitement is a different matter.
You are just not accurate with your times. First of all, most of McCartney's songs are pop songs, or radio friendly hits. By design they're anywhere from 2:30 to 4:30 long. I've seen many of his shows, including this last round, and he's doing full versions of each. When people say there are three hour shows, no one is ever talking about timed music, but instead the first song kicked off at 8:00 p.m. and the last chord was played at 11:00 p.m. Moreover, McCartney never leaves the stage. He sings each and every song AND is playing an instrument for each one. and for whatever reason, he even rarely drinks water. A certain lead singer of another group leaves the stage for two songs of the 19 or so that are played and gets to take a break.
But these are different types of shows. McCartney's not running around, but he's still putting quite a lot of energy into performance. Stones music is more blues oriented, some extended jams, that give the singer a break from his running around. I've seen both acts plenty of times and would not want to denigrate either, but if you've seen a Stones show from 1998-2003 then you've seen the 2014 version. McCartney varies his set list every tour.
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As I said above. I just saw Macca's show in Chicago last Wed. It clocked in at 2 hours and 50 minutes. NOT counting the video. He told three short stories. One about Hendrix after Let Me Roll it/Foxy Lady, one about Blackbird and the civil rights movement, and one about Something. And his band, while younger than Paul are all in their fifties, and have been playing with Paul longer than The Beatles and The Wings!
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LYL, I wouldn't focus so much on the quantity of time but rather the quality, did you enjoy it?
By your own admission you don't like to sit that long, so I guess you 'lucked out'.
For some reason in Brooklyn, although he played the same number of songs, and told the same number of stories, you got roughly 30 minutes less of concert than the rest of the tour.
Well, either that or just possibly you are mistaken. No, I'm sure it couldn't be that....likelier Paul just sped up the songs.
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LYL, I wouldn't focus so much on the quantity of time but rather the quality, did you enjoy it?
By your own admission you don't like to sit that long, so I guess you 'lucked out'.
For some reason in Brooklyn, although he played the same number of songs, and told the same number of stories, you got roughly 30 minutes less of concert than the rest of the tour.
Well, either that or just possibly you are mistaken. No, I'm sure it couldn't be that....likelier Paul just sped up the songs.
To directly answer your question treaclefingers.... yes I enjoyed myself. I am sorry if that wasn't clear from all I wrote. Perhaps English isn't your first language and you have some difficult with your own reading comprehension as I did communicate that I enjoyed myself more than once. But I did want to provide a clear and direct answer so I am certain you aren't "mistaken".
And your quantity verses quality statement is really better directed at others in this thread as you seem to have missed all that I've been communicating in this thread with respect to Macca live verses the Stones.
I've just looked at my watch, which I often do and believe I've spend enough time sharing on this thread for now.