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Unfortunately every time we try to say something some idiot who hates Mick Taylor says something else.

It is possible to like the Rolling Stones Sans-Mick Taylor, WITHOUT hating Mick Taylor and without being an idiot.

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I don't know why Mick Taylor is limited to 1 # (the same), up to now. Is it a contract thing? To make his appearance very special only one song? But I like the fact that you take matter in hands and you are pro-active. I agree with you that the Stones should play more songs with Taylor. Who would disagree with that really? Good luck!
Rock and roll,
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I don't know why Mick Taylor is limited to 1 # (the same), up to now. Is it a contract thing? To make his appearance very special only one song? But I like the fact that you take matter in hands and you are pro-active. I agree with you that the Stones should play more songs with Taylor. Who would disagree with that really? Good luck!
Rock and roll,
Mops

He's in purgatory now. He has to expiate for quiting the band. If he doesn't complain too much like did Bill Wyman a couple of months ago maybe he'll be allowed to play on two songs...

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I don't know why Mick Taylor is limited to 1 # (the same), up to now. Is it a contract thing? To make his appearance very special only one song? But I like the fact that you take matter in hands and you are pro-active. I agree with you that the Stones should play more songs with Taylor. Who would disagree with that really? Good luck!
Rock and roll,
Mops

He's in purgatory now. He has to expiate for quiting the band. If he doesn't complain too much like did Bill Wyman a couple of months ago maybe he'll be allowed to play on two songs...

When / where did Mick Taylor complain after the 2012 concerts ???

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I don't know why Mick Taylor is limited to 1 # (the same), up to now. Is it a contract thing? To make his appearance very special only one song? But I like the fact that you take matter in hands and you are pro-active. I agree with you that the Stones should play more songs with Taylor. Who would disagree with that really? Good luck!
Rock and roll,
Mops

He's in purgatory now. He has to expiate for quiting the band. If he doesn't complain too much like did Bill Wyman a couple of months ago maybe he'll be allowed to play on two songs...

When / where did Mick Taylor complain after the 2012 concerts ???

I don't see where anyone is suggesting that.

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When / where did Mick Taylor complain after the 2012 concerts ???

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I don't hate Mick Taylor. I do feel sorry for all of the many HUGE Mick Taylor fans who are upset and unhappy because Mick Taylor is only getting one song per concert on this tour.
I wish, for their sakes, that it was different.
But, it's not.
I also think wishing and hoping that it will change is a waste of energy.
Jagger has his guest list and Taylor gets one track just like his other guest artists.

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I don't hate Mick Taylor. I do feel sorry for all of the many HUGE Mick Taylor fans who are upset and unhappy because Mick Taylor is only getting one song per concert on this tour.
I wish, for their sakes, that it was different.
But, it's not.
I also think wishing and hoping that it will change is a waste of energy.
Jagger has his guest list and Taylor gets one track just like his other guest artists.

then why do the other 'guests' not come out at the end and bow with the rest of them???....

95% of what people are there to see is pre-Ron Wood era...Brian can't be there...

the other man...Mick Taylor... who played it first and played it BEST is willing and capable...

they probably still some weird grudge against him for quitting...and being more talented...and wanting credit for songs he had a big hand in...(Time Waits For No One vs. Hey Negrita...wow)...just in the same way Keith holds a grudge after 40+ years and brings up Mick's small dick...sadly the whole thing is band politics...

Ron Wood is their lapdog...he always has been...and that's why he's lasted...he says 'yes sir' to both of them and talks about 'weaving'...that's his main contribution in the last 25 years...that stupid comment about 'the ancient art of weaving'...at best he's their lapdog and Jeff Beck's old bass player...

it's a travesty that they won't allow Mick Taylor to stand there and play the whole set...then they would have 1.5 capable guitarists on stage...

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I wonder how many here who appear so emotional, and overly concerned, about getting Taylor more songs on this tour and spending so much of their time and effort posting so many words here, have ever spent a fraction of that time and effort either thinking about, or actually doing something, to help fight against REAL problems in this world. For instance.....

Slavery still exists, and many new laws fighting human trafficking are needed to fight it.

The worlds oceans are being severely over harvested and international agreement must be made, and kept, to keep them healthy.

Access to healthy drinking water is an increasing concern, and must be addressed.

Something is wrong with the worlds honey bees, look up colony collapse disorder.

Big Business is wanting to gentically modify the worlds crops, and force it upon us.

Global over population is going to kill this planet, humans can not continue to grow at the current rate without casuing major issues.

Those are a just a few of the REAL PROBLEMS facing this planet, and could use the type of attention, petitions and emotional out pouring, that is being given Mick Taylor.

I wonder, "Do any of these "Taylor Activist" "donate" any of thier efforts towards any real issues facing the planet?"

I do spend part of my time, money and efforts where they might do some good. I try to do my part. I support, donate money and write letters or emails to fight real issues in this world, hopefully where they might do the most good.

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Max'sKansasCity
I wonder how many here who appear so emotional, and overly concerned, about getting Taylor more songs on this tour and spending so much of their time and effort posting so many words here, have ever spent a fraction of that time and effort either thinking about, or actually doing something, to help fight against REAL problems in this world. For instance.....

Slavery still exists, and many new laws fighting human trafficking are needed to fight it.

The worlds oceans are being severely over harvested and international agreement must be made, and kept, to keep them healthy.

Access to healthy drinking water is an increasing concern, and must be addressed.

Something is wrong with the worlds honey bees, look up colony collapse disorder.

Big Business is wanting to gentically modify the worlds crops, and force it upon us.

Global over population is going to kill this planet, humans can not continue to grow at the current rate without casuing major issues.

Those are a just a few of the REAL PROBLEMS facing this planet, and could use the type of attention, petitions and emotional out pouring, that is being given Mick Taylor.

I wonder, "Do any of these "Taylor Activist" "donate" any of thier efforts towards any real issues facing the planet?"

I do spend part of my time, money and efforts where they might do some good. I try to do my part. I support, donate money and write letters or emails to fight real issues in this world, hopefully where they might do the most good.

i guess Jesus loves you more than the rest of us then...go hug a tree...to quote Keith...'it's only Rock and Roll man'...

nice backpatting job...on yourself...

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Ye God's you're pompous and taking yourself a bit seriously Max....

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Max'sKansasCity
I wonder how many here who appear so emotional, and overly concerned, about getting Taylor more songs on this tour and spending so much of their time and effort posting so many words here, have ever spent a fraction of that time and effort either thinking about, or actually doing something, to help fight against REAL problems in this world. For instance.....

Slavery still exists, and many new laws fighting human trafficking are needed to fight it.

The worlds oceans are being severely over harvested and international agreement must be made, and kept, to keep them healthy.

Access to healthy drinking water is an increasing concern, and must be addressed.

Something is wrong with the worlds honey bees, look up colony collapse disorder.

Big Business is wanting to gentically modify the worlds crops, and force it upon us.

Global over population is going to kill this planet, humans can not continue to grow at the current rate without casuing major issues.

Those are a just a few of the REAL PROBLEMS facing this planet, and could use the type of attention, petitions and emotional out pouring, that is being given Mick Taylor.

I wonder, "Do any of these "Taylor Activist" "donate" any of thier efforts towards any real issues facing the planet?"

I do spend part of my time, money and efforts where they might do some good. I try to do my part. I support, donate money and write letters or emails to fight real issues in this world, hopefully where they might do the most good.

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I wonder how many here who appear so emotional, and overly concerned, about getting Taylor more songs on this tour and spending so much of their time and effort posting so many words here, have ever spent a fraction of that time and effort either thinking about, or actually doing something, to help fight against REAL problems in this world. For instance.....

Slavery still exists, and many new laws fighting human trafficking are needed to fight it.

The worlds oceans are being severely over harvested and international agreement must be made, and kept, to keep them healthy.

Access to healthy drinking water is an increasing concern, and must be addressed.

Something is wrong with the worlds honey bees, look up colony collapse disorder.

Big Business is wanting to gentically modify the worlds crops, and force it upon us.

Global over population is going to kill this planet, humans can not continue to grow at the current rate without casuing major issues.

Those are a just a few of the REAL PROBLEMS facing this planet, and could use the type of attention, petitions and emotional out pouring, that is being given Mick Taylor.

I wonder, "Do any of these "Taylor Activist" "donate" any of thier efforts towards any real issues facing the planet?"

I do spend part of my time, money and efforts where they might do some good. I try to do my part. I support, donate money and write letters or emails to fight real issues in this world, hopefully where they might do the most good.

i guess Jesus loves you more than the rest of us then...go hug a tree...to quote Keith...'it's only Rock and Roll man'...

nice backpatting job...on yourself...

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Ye God's you're pompous and taking yourself a bit seriously Max....

Wait a second, I am the one taking shit to seriously?

Have you read this thread? People are accusing others of sabotaging the efforts for get Taylor more songs... sabotage? REALLY?

This whole thread is too serious. I was merely saying if people wanna get/be serious, then how about talk about something serious.

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How can a Rolling Stone upstage The Rolling Stones??? Keith and Mick need to realize Taylor can only enhance their thunder. I am very surprised they are being so petty and stingy with his stage time. Meanwhile Taylor has to suck it up for his last chance to escape poverty. I wonder, if he punches Jagger in the nose on the last night will he still get paid?

I'd never thought of it like that...I mean reading Bill German's book (his visit after the HOF induction I think) and hearing that story about the Stones paying for his dental work (or medical bills) at some point was a bit worrying, but poverty? Huh...wonder how much he's getting for that tour...guess $1 million would be a minimum given that they have an $80 million budget to play with!

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Ye God's you're pompous and taking yourself a bit seriously Max....

Wait a second, I am the one taking shit to seriously?

Have you read this thread? People are accusing others of sabotaging the efforts for get Taylor more songs... sabotage? REALLY?

This whole thread is too serious. I was merely saying if people wanna get/be serious, then how about talk about something serious.

no...you went further than that...it's okay - we're all seriously impressed.

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Ye God's you're pompous and taking yourself a bit seriously Max....

Wait a second, I am the one taking shit to seriously?

Have you read this thread? People are accusing others of sabotaging the efforts for get Taylor more songs... sabotage? REALLY?

This whole thread is too serious. I was merely saying if people wanna get/be serious, then how about talk about something serious.

no...you went further than that...it's okay - we're all seriously impressed.

No... I didnt.... go read the thread.
Some of these folks would make great activist, they are serious.

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Ye God's you're pompous and taking yourself a bit seriously Max....

Wait a second, I am the one taking shit to seriously?

Have you read this thread? People are accusing others of sabotaging the efforts for get Taylor more songs... sabotage? REALLY?

This whole thread is too serious. I was merely saying if people wanna get/be serious, then how about talk about something serious.

no...you went further than that...it's okay - we're all seriously impressed.

No... I didnt.... go read the thread.
Some of these folks would make great activist, they are serious.

oh, you mean that wasn't you detailing your mother teresa merits?

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I find the comments by those who defend the way Taylor is being used and defend the "greatest hits" nature of what the Stones live have become, and who claim that the general public doesn't know who Taylor is, interesting.

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I find the comments by those who defend the way Taylor is being used and defend the "greatest hits" nature of what the Stones live have become, and who claim that the general public doesn't know who Taylor is, interesting.

I haven't seen many people take this stance, I definitely have not.

I wish they were more than a greatest hits band, and I think that it would be cool if he played on more songs. I just don't think that people should be suprised that neither thing is happening. It shouldn't come as a surprise that the Stones are acting like selfish, sometimes petty money-grubbers.


Their concert was a lot of fun, at least for me (and i wish there was a forum for people who felt that way so we could talk more about how great the show was), but I went in knowing that they were mostly going to play greatest hits, and being OK with that. I didn't think there was any chance under the sun that they would deliver anything different, no matter how much I'd have loved to hear them play entire sides of Exile.

I do think a lot of people react when the Taylor love extends into "ronnie sucks" or "ronnie should sit out the taylor songs" or "the stones would be an edgy ground-breaking band if only mick taylor played for 10 or 15 or 100 more minutes".

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I find the comments by those who defend the way Taylor is being used and defend the "greatest hits" nature of what the Stones live have become, and who claim that the general public doesn't know who Taylor is, interesting.

I haven't seen many people take this stance, I definitely have not.

I wish they were more than a greatest hits band, and I think that it would be cool if he played on more songs. I just don't think that people should be suprised that neither thing is happening. It shouldn't come as a surprise that the Stones are acting like selfish, sometimes petty money-grubbers.


Their concert was a lot of fun, at least for me (and i wish there was a forum for people who felt that way so we could talk more about how great the show was), but I went in knowing that they were mostly going to play greatest hits, and being OK with that. I didn't think there was any chance under the sun that they would deliver anything different, no matter how much I'd have loved to hear them play entire sides of Exile.

I do think a lot of people react when the Taylor love extends into "ronnie sucks" or "ronnie should sit out the taylor songs" or "the stones would be an edgy ground-breaking band if only mick taylor played for 10 or 15 or 100 more minutes".

Can't argue with what you say. They're going to play all the warhorses every night. Doing so with 3 guitars would be different, though, a way to do something new while still doing the same old numbers. That's what people want, not Richards/Taylor, but Richards/Wood/Taylor. What keith said. 3 guitars. They could do so much with such a lineup. How is this anti-Woody at all? I think he would be the first to support it.

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I find the comments by those who defend the way Taylor is being used and defend the "greatest hits" nature of what the Stones live have become, and who claim that the general public doesn't know who Taylor is, interesting.

I haven't seen many people take this stance, I definitely have not.

I wish they were more than a greatest hits band, and I think that it would be cool if he played on more songs. I just don't think that people should be suprised that neither thing is happening. It shouldn't come as a surprise that the Stones are acting like selfish, sometimes petty money-grubbers.


Their concert was a lot of fun, at least for me (and i wish there was a forum for people who felt that way so we could talk more about how great the show was), but I went in knowing that they were mostly going to play greatest hits, and being OK with that. I didn't think there was any chance under the sun that they would deliver anything different, no matter how much I'd have loved to hear them play entire sides of Exile.

I do think a lot of people react when the Taylor love extends into "ronnie sucks" or "ronnie should sit out the taylor songs" or "the stones would be an edgy ground-breaking band if only mick taylor played for 10 or 15 or 100 more minutes".

Can't argue with what you say. They're going to play all the warhorses every night. Doing so with 3 guitars would be different, though, a way to do something new while still doing the same old numbers. That's what people want, not Richards/Taylor, but Richards/Wood/Taylor. What keith said. 3 guitars. They could do so much with such a lineup. How is this anti-Woody at all? I think he would be the first to support it.

It's NOT anti-Woody, of course. It's just that a few people have knee-jerk responses about Woody based on Taylor being back. I am speculating, but I think Ronnie would be delighted by a "three-guitar attack" and would respond very well to that type of arrangement. It wouldn't work for every song, of course, but a whole mini-set could be designed around that concept.