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71Tele
Look, the Stones are a business, first and foremost. They are a "brand" these days more than a "band". Why is this a surprise to anyone? If music was their main interest they would have gotten together numerous times in the last five years for the sheer joy of playing, or to challenge themselves artistically. This simply isn't the case. They are a product like any other product, and they charge what the market will bear. The fact that they have sold out these shows means that from a business standpoint their calculations were correct. In fact, they probably could have charged even more. One may choose to buy the product or not (personally I choose not to, as I find the current product lacking), but why the anger and feelings of betrayal for something that they have been doing for two decades or more, which is to try to extract the most money and profit from their enterprise as possible?
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Max'sKansasCity
What would IORR ever do without all these kind people retelling everyone, over and over, that concerts area business. Esp the ones who love to whine about all sorts of crap... and now telling people they should not whine about what they see as high prices.
Is the popcorn done yet... my bowl is almost empty.
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Ged Rambler
Just come back off holiday to this happy news - its an utter disgrace - lets face it,they're not exactly gonna be firing on all cylinders are they?Not the slightest bit interested at these prices,they can sod off - its a fine thank you to the true fans who have supported them for all these years.
I don't post here often but have been a big fan for almost 40 years and I just don't get it - these people are rich beyond our wildest dreams,why don't they give something back?If this is the score when the real tour arrives,won't be bothering with that either - will go where I get value for money,such as Bruce - no comparison.
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71Tele
Look, the Stones are a business, first and foremost. They are a "brand" these days more than a "band". Why is this a surprise to anyone? If music was their main interest they would have gotten together numerous times in the last five years for the sheer joy of playing, or to challenge themselves artistically. This simply isn't the case. They are a product like any other product, and they charge what the market will bear. The fact that they have sold out these shows means that from a business standpoint their calculations were correct. In fact, they probably could have charged even more. One may choose to buy the product or not (personally I choose not to, as I find the current product lacking), but why the anger and feelings of betrayal for something that they have been doing for two decades or more, which is to try to extract the most money and profit from their enterprise as possible?
E-he-he-he-he-xactly.
When they came out in 1989 with that coin set... I knew they weren't like other bands. And not in a good way either. They are absolutely a brand now. They are not a real band, but a cash cow - an example of a band which had 15 years of inspiration (1962-1977), but ran out of steam. So around '81 they mulled the last decent music in the vaults for Tattoo You and proceeded to INVENT the 'corpoate sponsor' tour.
They had an amazing run of work in the 60s and 70s; and that's what I'm a fan of - old Stones... when they were good, which was a long, long time ago. They of course now have slid down in quality to the epitome of suckage. I'm looking forward to hearing how porly these shows will be, and think about the fools that payed this kind of money for - what we all know will be - an EVEN WEAKER version of the Bigger Bang Tour (aka Voodoo Lounge Part 6).
But they sold the tickets. Because they're still The World's Greatest Rock and Roll Band? No. Because the are a lot of very stupid people out there who buy into hype, and a LOT of tone-deaf fanboys who pretend to have musical sensibilities to know that they're not even "good" anymore, that 100 garage bands out there would blow them off the stage. (a lot of them post here and abuse the word "swing"... yeah, those guys).
Anyone who bought a ticket for these shows; You are a sucker and a fool and I would say it right to your face, and laugh.
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StonesTod
how did it all come to this? whatever happened to my rocknroll? sigh. at least i have my jazz to clutch and to hold....sniff.....
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71Tele
Look, the Stones are a business, first and foremost. They are a "brand" these days more than a "band". Why is this a surprise to anyone? If music was their main interest they would have gotten together numerous times in the last five years for the sheer joy of playing, or to challenge themselves artistically. This simply isn't the case. They are a product like any other product, and they charge what the market will bear. The fact that they have sold out these shows means that from a business standpoint their calculations were correct. In fact, they probably could have charged even more. One may choose to buy the product or not (personally I choose not to, as I find the current product lacking), but why the anger and feelings of betrayal for something that they have been doing for two decades or more, which is to try to extract the most money and profit from their enterprise as possible?
E-he-he-he-he-xactly.
When they came out in 1989 with that coin set... I knew they weren't like other bands. And not in a good way either. They are absolutely a brand now. They are not a real band, but a cash cow - an example of a band which had 15 years of inspiration (1962-1977), but ran out of steam. So around '81 they mulled the last decent music in the vaults for Tattoo You and proceeded to INVENT the 'corpoate sponsor' tour.
They had an amazing run of work in the 60s and 70s; and that's what I'm a fan of - old Stones... when they were good, which was a long, long time ago. They of course now have slid down in quality to the epitome of suckage. I'm looking forward to hearing how porly these shows will be, and think about the fools that payed this kind of money for - what we all know will be - an EVEN WEAKER version of the Bigger Bang Tour (aka Voodoo Lounge Part 6).
But they sold the tickets. Because they're still The World's Greatest Rock and Roll Band? No. Because the are a lot of very stupid people out there who buy into hype, and a LOT of tone-deaf fanboys who pretend to have musical sensibilities to know that they're not even "good" anymore, that 100 garage bands out there would blow them off the stage. (a lot of them post here and abuse the word "swing"... yeah, those guys).
Anyone who bought a ticket for these shows; You are a sucker and a fool and I would say it right to your face, and laugh.
how did it all come to this? whatever happened to my rocknroll? sigh. at least i have my jazz to clutch and to hold....sniff.....
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71Tele
Look, the Stones are a business, first and foremost. They are a "brand" these days more than a "band". Why is this a surprise to anyone? If music was their main interest they would have gotten together numerous times in the last five years for the sheer joy of playing, or to challenge themselves artistically. This simply isn't the case. They are a product like any other product, and they charge what the market will bear. The fact that they have sold out these shows means that from a business standpoint their calculations were correct. In fact, they probably could have charged even more. One may choose to buy the product or not (personally I choose not to, as I find the current product lacking), but why the anger and feelings of betrayal for something that they have been doing for two decades or more, which is to try to extract the most money and profit from their enterprise as possible?
E-he-he-he-he-xactly.
When they came out in 1989 with that coin set... I knew they weren't like other bands. And not in a good way either. They are absolutely a brand now. They are not a real band, but a cash cow - an example of a band which had 15 years of inspiration (1962-1977), but ran out of steam. So around '81 they mulled the last decent music in the vaults for Tattoo You and proceeded to INVENT the 'corpoate sponsor' tour.
They had an amazing run of work in the 60s and 70s; and that's what I'm a fan of - old Stones... when they were good, which was a long, long time ago. They of course now have slid down in quality to the epitome of suckage. I'm looking forward to hearing how porly these shows will be, and think about the fools that payed this kind of money for - what we all know will be - an EVEN WEAKER version of the Bigger Bang Tour (aka Voodoo Lounge Part 6).
But they sold the tickets. Because they're still The World's Greatest Rock and Roll Band? No. Because the are a lot of very stupid people out there who buy into hype, and a LOT of tone-deaf fanboys who pretend to have musical sensibilities to know that they're not even "good" anymore, that 100 garage bands out there would blow them off the stage. (a lot of them post here and abuse the word "swing"... yeah, those guys).
Anyone who bought a ticket for these shows; You are a sucker and a fool and I would say it right to your face, and laugh.
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StonesTod
how did it all come to this? whatever happened to my rocknroll? sigh. at least i have my jazz to clutch and to hold....sniff.....
Rock and roll is still out there. Just not at a Rolling Stones Royal Gathering of Idiots.
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Max'sKansasCitySomeone smart once said.... it can still be found down at the local pub for a $5.00 cover charge, and they sell $2.00 beers. THAT is rock and roll.Quote
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71Tele
Look, the Stones are a business, first and foremost. They are a "brand" these days more than a "band". Why is this a surprise to anyone? If music was their main interest they would have gotten together numerous times in the last five years for the sheer joy of playing, or to challenge themselves artistically. This simply isn't the case. They are a product like any other product, and they charge what the market will bear. The fact that they have sold out these shows means that from a business standpoint their calculations were correct. In fact, they probably could have charged even more. One may choose to buy the product or not (personally I choose not to, as I find the current product lacking), but why the anger and feelings of betrayal for something that they have been doing for two decades or more, which is to try to extract the most money and profit from their enterprise as possible?
E-he-he-he-he-xactly.
When they came out in 1989 with that coin set... I knew they weren't like other bands. And not in a good way either. They are absolutely a brand now. They are not a real band, but a cash cow - an example of a band which had 15 years of inspiration (1962-1977), but ran out of steam. So around '81 they mulled the last decent music in the vaults for Tattoo You and proceeded to INVENT the 'corpoate sponsor' tour.
They had an amazing run of work in the 60s and 70s; and that's what I'm a fan of - old Stones... when they were good, which was a long, long time ago. They of course now have slid down in quality to the epitome of suckage. I'm looking forward to hearing how porly these shows will be, and think about the fools that payed this kind of money for - what we all know will be - an EVEN WEAKER version of the Bigger Bang Tour (aka Voodoo Lounge Part 6).
But they sold the tickets. Because they're still The World's Greatest Rock and Roll Band? No. Because the are a lot of very stupid people out there who buy into hype, and a LOT of tone-deaf fanboys who pretend to have musical sensibilities to know that they're not even "good" anymore, that 100 garage bands out there would blow them off the stage. (a lot of them post here and abuse the word "swing"... yeah, those guys).
Anyone who bought a ticket for these shows; You are a sucker and a fool and I would say it right to your face, and laugh.
how did it all come to this? whatever happened to my rocknroll? sigh. at least i have my jazz to clutch and to hold....sniff.....
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My thought is that Wyman will join them at the 02 shows and Taylor(he's only booked for shows Nov 24 and 30) will join them at the Prudential Center shows.
It could be the reason for the outrageous ticket prices.
Who would have imagined all those years ago that Stones fans would be happy for an extra zero on a ticket price just to see a cameo by Mick Taylor or Bill Wyman?
I wonder how much of that extra revenue the Stones get from these shows because of this speculation will find its way into the bank accounts of the guys in question.
I would guess that it'll be close to just one of those zeroes.
Hmm, Gazza, I am not sure if the type of people scooping up these tickets know, let alone care, about Wyman and Taylor. At least not enough to have speculation drive up prices. Wouldn't it make more sense (if getting more money was the objective) to actually announce and promote appearances by the two ex-members? That might do the trick.
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Max'sKansasCity
What would IORR ever do without all these kind people retelling everyone, over and over, that concerts area business. Esp the ones who love to whine about all sorts of crap... and now telling people they should not whine about what they see as high prices.
Is the popcorn done yet... my bowl is almost empty.
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Sam Spade
My thought is that Wyman will join them at the 02 shows and Taylor(he's only booked for shows Nov 24 and 30) will join them at the Prudential Center shows.
It could be the reason for the outrageous ticket prices.
Who would have imagined all those years ago that Stones fans would be happy for an extra zero on a ticket price just to see a cameo by Mick Taylor or Bill Wyman?
I wonder how much of that extra revenue the Stones get from these shows because of this speculation will find its way into the bank accounts of the guys in question.
I would guess that it'll be close to just one of those zeroes.
Hmm, Gazza, I am not sure if the type of people scooping up these tickets know, let alone care, about Wyman and Taylor. At least not enough to have speculation drive up prices. Wouldn't it make more sense (if getting more money was the objective) to actually announce and promote appearances by the two ex-members? That might do the trick.
I know that - but its people on HERE (who DO know who they are) are justifying the prices in the event that either or both will make cameo appearances.
You could never have forseen that this would happen 25 years ago. Certainly not for a cameo by a bass player who was so low key on stage that he was barely noticeable. (Not a comment on his playing, but more on his stage presence and profile within the band)
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corriecas
i saw crossfire hurricane yesterday, and it was a disappointment, stops at 1982......
I called that one! Thanks for saving me time and money.
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i saw crossfire hurricane yesterday, and it was a disappointment, stops at 1982......
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Mathijs comparision with restaurants make it sound like the reason for the ticketprices going up is because the quality has been rising as well....
BTW, I just tried searching for tickets on seetickets; funny to read the 130 "facebook comments" under the RS ticket search. Seems like the everybody there think the whole band can bugger off; it's not only people on this board who's complaining.
If you are of the opinion that 400 pounds for a second tier ticket is too expensive, then don't buy the ticket. The quality hasn't increased, but the scarcity has. Petrus is mainly so expensive because there's so little amount of bottles produced every year.
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My thought is that Wyman will join them at the 02 shows and Taylor(he's only booked for shows Nov 24 and 30) will join them at the Prudential Center shows.
It could be the reason for the outrageous ticket prices.
Who would have imagined all those years ago that Stones fans would be happy for an extra zero on a ticket price just to see a cameo by Mick Taylor or Bill Wyman?
I wonder how much of that extra revenue the Stones get from these shows because of this speculation will find its way into the bank accounts of the guys in question.
I would guess that it'll be close to just one of those zeroes.
Hmm, Gazza, I am not sure if the type of people scooping up these tickets know, let alone care, about Wyman and Taylor. At least not enough to have speculation drive up prices. Wouldn't it make more sense (if getting more money was the objective) to actually announce and promote appearances by the two ex-members? That might do the trick.
I know that - but its people on HERE (who DO know who they are) are justifying the prices in the event that either or both will make cameo appearances.
You could never have forseen that this would happen 25 years ago. Certainly not for a cameo by a bass player who was so low key on stage that he was barely noticeable. (Not a comment on his playing, but more on his stage presence and profile within the band)
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Max'sKansasCitySomeone smart once said.... it can still be found down at the local pub for a $5.00 cover charge, and they sell $2.00 beers. THAT is rock and roll.Quote
StonesTod
how did it all come to this? whatever happened to my rocknroll? sigh. at least i have my jazz to clutch and to hold....sniff.....
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StonesTod
how did it all come to this? whatever happened to my rocknroll? sigh. at least i have my jazz to clutch and to hold....sniff.....
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lunar!!!
..lets just forget about the whole thing....
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corriecas
i saw crossfire hurricane yesterday, and it was a disappointment, stops at 1982......
I don't understand...people hate "Vegas Stones" and everything that happened after 1982...so why all of a sudden do they need to see that part of their career in a documentary in order for that documentary to be considered good? Everyone loves the early 70's to death and here they made a documentary specifically about it and people still hate it? Fickle.
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pinkfloydthebarber
There are on 2 shows in the UK and 2 in America, what do you expect?! Low prices?
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mgguy
I would venture to say that all of you who refuse to purchase tickets, can't get tickets, can't afford tickets, can't travel, etc. will ALL watch the PPV. You won't be able to kkep yourselves from not watching, even in protest.
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mgguy
I would venture to say that all of you who refuse to purchase tickets, can't get tickets, can't afford tickets, can't travel, etc. will ALL watch the PPV. You won't be able to kkep yourselves from not watching, even in protest.
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Turd On The Run
Wrong. Faulty economics. And short-sided business practice. With 20,000 fans at 100 bucks you get 2,000,000 dollars. With 40,000 fans at 50 bucks you get the same, plus double the ancillary profits from T-Shirt, memorabilia, food and beverages, etc. And I know for a fact that these are the only areas that allow promoters and stadiums (and most bands) to extract any profit from concerts nowadays...the peripherals are the profit margin. So your reasoning is faulty.