I've been a fan for 40 years but this ticket fiasco is the final straw. The Stones,Ticketmaster, seatwave etc are surely all working together in the grrreed game. I was annoyed in 2007 when I paid £112 plus £60 stones membership to see them at the O2 in a fan club pre sale and ended up adjacent to the stage and in the very highest point of the nosebleeds.I felt humiliated then but it's a whole new level now. The highest I could afford was £106 but took an age to get through online and by telephone and when I did none available(if the ever were). These are very difficult times for the majority of people, believe it or not. Bunch of out of touch, disgraceful tossers. I hope it filters through to the band how upset and angry the real fans are but we all know it makes no difference. The morals of Cameron and Osbourne, I hope they are proud of themselves.

can't really argue with any of that

Sad, but true.

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I've been a fan for 40 years but this ticket fiasco is the final straw. The Stones,Ticketmaster, seatwave etc are surely all working together in the grrreed game. I was annoyed in 2007 when I paid £112 plus £60 stones membership to see them at the O2 in a fan club pre sale and ended up adjacent to the stage and in the very highest point of the nosebleeds.I felt humiliated then but it's a whole new level now. The highest I could afford was £106 but took an age to get through online and by telephone and when I did none available(if the ever were). These are very difficult times for the majority of people, believe it or not. Bunch of out of touch, disgraceful tossers. I hope it filters through to the band how upset and angry the real fans are but we all know it makes no difference. The morals of Cameron and Osbourne, I hope they are proud of themselves.

You are absolutely right. What strikes me is that a lot of fans here like you rarely post a mail in the years they are a member of this forum but now they do...that should be a sign to the Stones that they really went to far with this. It can hit them like a boomerang. I hope it does.

I feel & share your pain.

They are just immoral w*nkers.
Another sad fact but true is the fact that the "hardcore" fans that use this forum wont even make up 0.1percent of the everyday fans that fancy trying for a ticket...so no opinion here will be noticed.
I hoped maybe the band were going to do a "robin hood"and fleece the fatcats in these 4 shows and maybe subsidise a tour with realistic prices for the common man..
3 2 1 yer back in the room...

Theres right and wrong ways of growing old disgracefully..

Doughboy.

I can't argue with any of these comments either. It's a sad state of affairs and a kick in the teeth to long-standing fans, especially those who are not in a position to spend that kind of money. Disgraceful. If they are not aware of the backlash from fans, then they really are on another planet. But even if they are aware, a public admission or acknowledgement of having screwed their fanbase will never be made.

The last tour was getting up there but this ..............
imo The Rolling Stones are now part of the problem on this planet and not the solution.................

I always thought if someone could make someone else dance, that was a good thing, but in the words of.........They don't move me anymore.................



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So sadly true.

Unfortunately its not going to get any better, Plenty of people who initially baulked at these prices and expressed their disgust ended up not only paying them, but paid them for very, very, bad seats.

As a result the shows appear to be sold out (well, theyre sold out if you factor in the thousands of wannabe ticket touts who buy the tickets, suddenly realise they cant go and put them on other sites for even sillier money which no one in their right mind will buy)

I can sort of understand people spending £400 on excellent seats (while I dont think they should charge that money, if people HAVE that disposable income, its churlish to begrudge them spending it), but when fans are paying £400 for a nosebleed to see a band who'll be touring widely next year anyway, then their levels of desperation (and in some cases, stupidity it has to be said) are only encouraging the greed of the Stones organisation.

History shows that if the Stones develop a pricing model for shows and fans buy into it, the prices will only go one way. Upwards. The fanbase has created this monster. Expect the poorer quality seats to be a rip off next year again.

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Unfortunately its not going to get any better, Plenty of people who initially baulked at these prices and expressed their disgust ended up not only paying them, but paid them for very, very, bad seats.

As a result the shows appear to be sold out (well, theyre sold out if you factor in the thousands of wannabe ticket touts who buy the tickets, suddenly realise they cant go and put them on other sites for even sillier money which no one in their right mind will buy)

I can sort of understand people spending £400 on excellent seats (while I dont think they should charge that money, if people HAVE that disposable income, its churlish to begrudge them spending it), but when fans are paying £400 for a nosebleed to see a band who'll be touring widely next year anyway, then their levels of desperation (and in some cases, stupidity it has to be said) are only encouraging the greed of the Stones organisation.

History shows that if the Stones develop a pricing model for shows and fans buy into it, the prices will only go one way. Upwards. The fanbase has created this monster. Expect the poorer quality seats to be a rip off next year again.

This is my biggest fear as well.

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Unfortunately its not going to get any better, Plenty of people who initially baulked at these prices and expressed their disgust ended up not only paying them, but paid them for very, very, bad seats.

As a result the shows appear to be sold out (well, theyre sold out if you factor in the thousands of wannabe ticket touts who buy the tickets, suddenly realise they cant go and put them on other sites for even sillier money which no one in their right mind will buy)

I can sort of understand people spending £400 on excellent seats (while I dont think they should charge that money, if people HAVE that disposable income, its churlish to begrudge them spending it), but when fans are paying £400 for a nosebleed to see a band who'll be touring widely next year anyway, then their levels of desperation (and in some cases, stupidity it has to be said) are only encouraging the greed of the Stones organisation.

History shows that if the Stones develop a pricing model for shows and fans buy into it, the prices will only go one way. Upwards. The fanbase has created this monster. Expect the poorer quality seats to be a rip off next year again.

We must wait and see about next year tour. Is that for sure?

But, even if there's a tour next year, if they play Europe (Italy, France, Spain...) - and I think they won't do that- NOBODY in those countries will pay these prices. Neither do in South America (Brazil, Argentina... massive fans there)

Playin' in Japan or big cities in USA ?? Perhaps people will pay that outrageous amount of money (Russian tycoons in Moscow, Arabian oil kings...). Stones kwow they can't keep these prices goin' on a long time, maybe, the 50th anniversay shows but no more.

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As a result the shows appear to be sold out (well, theyre sold out if you factor in the thousands of wannabe ticket touts who buy the tickets, suddenly realise they cant go and put them on other sites for even sillier money which no one in their right mind will buy).

After seeing the absurd prices people are asking on eBay, GetMeIn etc. I do wonder if there might be something reasonable on offer at the last moment.
I've no doubt a lot of people have loaded up their credit card debt this morning on the basis of seeing Bill & Mick T on stage next month. Totally out of my reach, and even if it was not, I wouldn't go for it. £150 got me into the third row from the stage last time. £400+? Not for me.

Lee

Theyre planning a tour next year, yes.

I'm not saying that fans in every country will be specifically paying £400 for nosebleeds. You can adjust the figure for each individual economic region in relation to cost of living figures, etc.

However, as this probably wont be a long tour like we're used to,theres also the likelihood that they'll just keep it to the sort of 'A' markets that can afford to pay them the £4 million plus per show fee that they're rrportedly getting for these four shows. Whether that means massive stadiums or arenas is probably down to the local promoter who has to find a way of making a profit on the venture.

i've said all along that i wouldn't spend £400 on a ticket, yet there i was this morning looking!

however, when offered the level 1 seats halfway down the arena i came to my senses and closed the browser.

no way.

go and enjoy the show if you got a ticket, each to their own.

it leaves a bad taste, after all these years they're winding down like this.

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As a result the shows appear to be sold out (well, theyre sold out if you factor in the thousands of wannabe ticket touts who buy the tickets, suddenly realise they cant go and put them on other sites for even sillier money which no one in their right mind will buy).

After seeing the absurd prices people are asking on eBay, GetMeIn etc. I do wonder if there might be something reasonable on offer at the last moment.
I've no doubt a lot of people have loaded up their credit card debt this morning on the basis of seeing Bill & Mick T on stage next month. Totally out of my reach, and even if it was not, I wouldn't go for it. £150 got me into the third row from the stage last time. £400+? Not for me.

Lee

To get even more perspective. Madison Square garden is traditionally one of the most expensive places (per average ticket price) to see the Stones. In January 2006, my flight from Dublin to New York cost £200 and the ticket cost £160. £360 in total..maybe about £380 after fees got added on, I guess.

This morning, for a show in London, I was offered a ticket for £400 which appeared to be located somewhere in outer space.

There comes a time when you have to draw a line in the sand at how much you allow someone to take the piss out of you. Today was mine.

the strange thing is that I feel just as pleased with myself that I was finally able to say 'no' after all this time as a lot of other people are about the fact that they got tickets!



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I can't possibly be the only one who finds this whole spectacle unbelievably
hilarious. But I guess there are still wrestling fans that take that stuff
seriously too...

No wonder Vince McMahon has been called in to co-promote this thing.

I, too, looked this morning, just for fun.
Even at a few minutes after 9am the brower took ages to be directed to the site. After about an hour of trying you finally get an offer for a £ 400 ticket located under the roof. Thanks, but NO thanks.

Look at getmein and you see tickets for £ 15,900! that is fifteen thousand nine hundred British Pounds!!! for one ticket!!! only roughly a net ANNUAL salary!

Maybe it would be hilarous, if it wasn't so disgusting!

Reminds me of Tom Petty's "When Money Becomes King"

Oh please stop with the drama and whining.

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Oh please stop with the drama and whining.

Oh please - if these prices are nothing to you - buy an extra 12 tickets, send them to BV to be raffled on IORR...............nah, course not...........

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Theyre planning a tour next year, yes.

I'm not saying that fans in every country will be specifically paying £400 for nosebleeds. You can adjust the figure for each individual economic region in relation to cost of living figures, etc.

However, as this probably wont be a long tour like we're used to,theres also the likelihood that they'll just keep it to the sort of 'A' markets that can afford to pay them the £4 million plus per show fee that they're rrportedly getting for these four shows. Whether that means massive stadiums or arenas is probably down to the local promoter who has to find a way of making a profit on the venture.

That's what I was thinking, the prices will be adjusted per market. They'll still be the highest ever in each market...but maybe not to the extent that they're selling them for these 4 shows.

Although it may not be much different if they go with the "A" market plan...plus we then get to pay for travel and lodging.

I desperately want to have my 11 year old see the Stones! But I need to decide if it's worth cashing in his college fund for.

i'm afraid Gazza's statements will be so right for next year's prices..i'm very very afraid he is spotone..it won't drop , the prices you know...i was hoping to let my daughter who turned 13 this year to take her along next year together with my wife but at the current price rates..well....

All the tickets are doom and gloom
All is darkness in my room
Through the light your face I see
Mick take a chance
Keith won't you dance with me ?



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Oh please stop with the drama and whining.

Oh please - if these prices are nothing to you - buy an extra 12 tickets, send them to BV to be raffled on IORR...............nah, course not...........

+1

despite tough time for many of us, there are plenty of people who have a ton os extra money and will pay even if they dont really care about the stones. or they have jobs where they get the tix for free from business. demand is there so prices are gonna be high....pretty simple.

There is still plenty of money in this world, it is just in fewer bank accounts.

Four Shows. Eighty thousand seats. They used to sell that many for one show on a world tour. After the corporate people and the other scumbag ticket brokers get ahold of there's they probably aren't that many left. Especially here in the US. Those brokers are savages . And I am not leaving the Stones themselves out of the blame. Don't kid yourself. These guys know exactly what the prices are . They want there's or they aren't playing. Or as Keith said. 16 million sounds about right. What a shithead. That is just spitting in the fans face when you say shit like that.

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Four Shows. Eighty thousand seats. They used to sell that many for one show on a world tour. After the corporate people and the other scumbag ticket brokers get ahold of there's they probably aren't that many left. Especially here in the US. Those brokers are savages . And I am not leaving the Stones themselves out of the blame. Don't kid yourself. These guys know exactly what the prices are . They want there's or they aren't playing. Or as Keith said. 16 million sounds about right. What a shithead. That is just spitting in the fans face when you say shit like that.

Yes that's how a lot of the fans feel. Interesting is how Darryl will feel? He only gets 50.000 per show. Talking about shit...

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Oh please stop with the drama and whining.

Oh please - if these prices are nothing to you - buy an extra 12 tickets, send them to BV to be raffled on IORR...............nah, course not...........

+1

To quote John Lennon, "It's just a rock and roll band, it's nothing important.", I love American football but can afford to go to the Superbowl. I don't whine endlessly about how it literally makes me sick. I don't have endless supplies of cash, but for this very rare event, I decided to fore go other luxuries for the next year or so.

Personally, I think these for shows will be special 50th anniv. events with Wyman and Taylor, and a more proper (and properly priced) tour to follow in 2013. Also, this tour serves as a barometer as to what they will be able to charge for tickets for larger (stadiums) this summer as to keep the number of dates to a minimum, but the number of seats and fan opportunity to a maximum. IMO, this will translate to an appropriate supply of reasonably priced tickets for the masses.

lol..............Ladies & Gentlemen, please welcome The stomach churning Rolling stones.................

Just because the organisers and teams involved in the Super Bowl are scalping their teams fans doesn't mean the Stones should.........
mick jagger said at one show...MSG 2003 I think - "The Stones and the fans are just like one big family"....................well?............

There's no kindness or consideration that one would normally be happy to bestow on family in this ..................there's a sort of slight of hand that there's some 'giving' going on but there's not, it's just like a @#$%& ing big hoover powering up to suck up a much xmas money as possible. they can't even be bothered to imagine revamping the setlists much. Me - I'd say 4 warhorses max per show and at least 5 per show that have more or less never been played.



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