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Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: Outlaw ()
Date: September 12, 2011 16:19

Source:[www.google.nl]


The legendary front man plans to pursue he 50th year anniversary concert without his lead guitarist, Keith Richards, because of a recent misunderstanding.

It seems that the feud between the founding members of the Rolling Stones, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, is not passing the test of time as a new one boils up a year before the band's 50th anniversary. Mick Jagger wants to do the concert without the presence of Keith Richards because of some negative comments the guitarist wrote on his biography, "Life."

According to what Richards wrote, Jagger's personal wants hindered the solid plans of an anniversary tour. The comment was made after Jagger announced that he would want to play at the Marquee club in London where they had their first ever gig. Jagger has claimed that he won't be inviting his band mate, who recently won GQ's Writer of the Year, to the reunion concert.

"Maybe we could go back to the Marquee to accept a plaque for 50 years of service instead of a tour. That could work - except Keith obviously can't come. Charlie Watts [who wasn't at the first performance] can come but he wouldn't get the plaque obviously." says Jagger in a post by Times of India.

Jagger has collaborated with the likes of Damian Marley, Joss Stone and AR Rahman for the band's new record, but it seems like not everyone is pleased about it. Jagger opened up about how his former band mates are willing to listen to the Rolling Stone's new record aside from Richards.

"Ronnie's listened to it. He's sweet, he's very supportive. He liked it very much, he liked it all, particularly some of the first tracks we started with. And Charlie liked it. He's all about the grooves, he's got a great ear." claims Jagger in the same report.

"I don't know if Keith really listens to that much. I don't know what Keith listens to. He says he listens to Chuck Berry, I wonder if it is actually true." added the front man in the same post.

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: September 12, 2011 16:28

smiling smiley LOL what a load of crock

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Keep On Rolling smoking smiley

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: Outlaw ()
Date: September 12, 2011 16:34

The news is on several sites, bs? Maybe, let't hope so.

[www.google.nl]

[www.ad.nl]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-09-12 16:35 by Outlaw.

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Date: September 12, 2011 16:35

Bollocks grinning smiley

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: northernale1 ()
Date: September 12, 2011 16:38

jagger knows there is no stones without Richards,,, just like Richards knows there is no stones without Jagger,,,

story is rubbish

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: palmkeith ()
Date: September 12, 2011 16:39

I think this is the original interview:

[www.dailymail.co.uk]

‘Boats are very private places. Fake names in recording sessions – keep it simple… you know’ – ‘Mr Gibson 3.3’, aka Mick Jagger
'If you want to keep things private you can. Fake names in recording sessions,' said Jagger
Under the blinding glare of the Los Angeles sun, on the same dusty Paramount New York street lot where The Godfather was filmed, a jumbled crew of cameramen, anxious assistants, exhausted runners and jaded punk extras all stare as a great boom of sound blares from a hastily constructed, battered voodoo shop frontage – pitched completely at odds against the iconic Forties brownstones.
There’s a momentary, familiar high-pitched wail. Then the battered doors crash open and Mick Jagger, in a tight neon-pink suit and Panama hat, struts into the sunlight, his feet in cerise Nikes kicking up dirt as he leaps through a series of perfectly co-ordinated vocal and physical twists, effortlessly spinning a pair of female dancers as he sings the opening lines of Miracle Worker.

Nobody moves, spellbound by what they’re watching. Even the jaw on the most scary-looking punk has dropped open. Joss Stone, sitting just feet away on a pavement, is completely fixated. Then Jagger stops, walks over to a monitor, frowning as he scrutinises the reel with ex-Eurythmics musician Dave Stewart.

Eventually, Jagger nods to Stewart and says in his ultra-liquid London drawl, ‘OK guys, let’s go again.’
This is an extraordinary event. Live magazine is the only UK publication invited to witness the filming of Jagger’s latest venture. SuperHeavy is a collaboration between Jagger, Stewart, Stone, Damian Marley (son of reggae legend Bob Marley) and Indian-born Oscar-winning soundtrack writer AR Rahman.
Over a period of four days we were given unprecedented access to the performers as the final touches were put to a project that has taken two years, crossed four continents, involved one of the world’s largest superyachts, the personal assistance of Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen, the input of America’s answer to Banksy, Shepard Fairey, not to mention levels of secrecy MI5 would be proud of (more of this later), to achieve. The outcome is a wholly unexpected return of the musicians’ collective ideal of the Sixties and Seventies – the supergroup.
'In a room full of musicians it doesn't take long to work out the dynamics,' said Jagger
As Dave Stewart says, ‘It was all totally secret and we kept it that way for a hell of a long time, which is amazing given the people concerned. This was a journey that could only really develop if it was given space without the rest of the world putting their expectations on it.

'It was essential we kept it secret. We had a codename for recording studios – DD Jam – and when a few people got to hear about Joss and Mick being in a session together it was put out that it was a Nokia campaign.

‘We recorded all over the place: LA, Jamaica, Turkey, Italy, Greece, India, Miami. We had people coming in at different times, different places. Paul Allen lent us his boat (a 414ft megayacht called Octopus with two helicopters, two submarines and a jet-ski dock). Mick would check in under names like Mr Gibson 3.3 – all very Ocean’s Eleven.’

‘Boats are very private places. Fake names in recording sessions – keep it simple… you know’ – ‘Mr Gibson 3.3’, aka Mick Jagger

Hours later, in a suite at the Beverly Hills Four Seasons, Mr Gibson 3.3 – Mick Jagger – is chilling before being driven off to a dance lesson where he will perfect his moves for tomorrow’s filming.

He is dressed in a peacock-blue cotton shirt and steel-grey trousers cut in the skinny, tapered style of a Sixties beatnik. His brown hair remains anti-establishment shoulder length and his face is a Francis Bacon portrait – fantastically riven by a life as extreme as you could get, untouched by surgery and defiantly his own.

Talking to Jagger is like trying to grasp mercury. He smiles and laughs, jokes and parries his way around questions. As it turns out, maintaining absolute secrecy was the least of his concerns.
‘I never found it that hard,’ he says. ‘I was worried about Dave because he often blabs when he’s talking and then my brother (Chris) said something. But if you want to keep things private you can. Dave blagged Paul Allen’s boat and we recorded vocals sailing round Greece and Turkey; boats are very private places. Fake names in recording sessions, keep it simple… you know.’
'It's good, I'm really happy with it. You sit back, you let others do their thing. You have your go, then you let the others go. It's a good process. I'm interested to see what happens next, move on,' said Jagger
Ask him what it was like playing with a completely new band and he grins.

'Well, it was really great but really pressured. Great because it’s good to challenge, to do something different; pressure because day one, we got into a room, no one had written anything, none of us had worked together as a group. I knew Damian’s dad but not really him or AR (Rahman). Then, me and Dave are sitting there with guitars and everyone is sort of looking at the guys with the guitars…’

Were the others looking to him specifically because he was the legend in the room?

‘Well, I dunno about that. Definitely the oldest, the senior. But in a room full of musicians it doesn’t take long to work out the dynamics. I’ve known Dave and worked with him for the past 25 years on projects like Alfie and Ruthless People and just doing our own stuff together.

'And Joss has opened for the Stones. I knew what singing with Joss was actually like and I hung out with her. I know she talks all the time and she is always up and laughing spontaneously. She is not like some broody, moody kind of girl who sits in the corner and you don’t know what she’s thinking. She’s telling you what she is thinking all the time, which is quite good really. And she sings all the time. She sings all her thoughts. I say, “Joss, can I get five minutes off the singing? Joss, shut up. Joss!”’ Jagger laughs.

‘It’s good, I’m really happy with it. You sit back, you let others do their thing. You have your go, then you let the others go. It’s a good process. I’m interested to see what happens next, move on.’

Jagger likes to keep moving; his motto is ‘Don’t look back.’

Jagger, Stewart, Marley and Stone in rehearsal
He nods. ‘I live in the now. But I don’t ever think, “This is amazing, I can’t believe I’m still doing this.” I am doing it. I’m just doing it. And I don’t think, “It’s all gone so fast”, because for me it’s still happening. When I started it was a different century and it seems like it. You move on. This band, this project, it’s all good.’

But it’s impossible to remove Jagger from his extraordinary past and even though we’re here to talk about SuperHeavy, the ghosts of the Rolling Stones and Keith Richards swirl around those skinny shoulders.

Richards’ autobiography, Life, torpedoed the fragile partnership of the Glimmer Twins, as Richards laid in to Jagger for being unbearable and betraying the ethos of the Stones by accepting a knighthood. Worse, Richards struck at the core of Jagger’s legend as a lover by boasting he slept with Mick’s girlfriend, Marianne Faithfull, and claiming Jagger has a ‘tiny todger’.

As bizarre as it seems, ‘Todgergate’ has led to such a rift between the two that the Stones’ long-awaited 50th anniversary tour – due for next year – is currently off, although rumours have emerged recently that lawyers are desperately trying to broker an agreement between the two men.
I tell Jagger I want to ask him something.

Stone fools around by her trailer
He leans back and smiles, ‘When is the next Rolling Stones mega-tour? I don’t know really. There isn’t one so far. But there might be anything, anything can happen. It is the 50th anniversary next year. Everyone kept asking what was the date of our first ever performance, no one was giving the answer, so I decided I may as well bloody well find out myself.

‘The first ever performance we did was in July at the Marquee Club in London and it was billed as Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stones. It was just me and Keith, Brian (Jones) and a backing band. No one else – no Charlie (Watts), he wasn’t even there. I remember it exactly. I was 19 years old. Ricky Fenson on bass, Carlo Little on drums and Nicky Hopkins on piano. They all told us to **** off when we tried to hire them but it was a big deal getting a gig at the Marquee because it was the hottest London club. It was a jazz club trying to break into blues.

‘The gig was amazing – the drummer was going mad and Nicky was rocking his electric piano and I remember the crowd going absolutely wild. I was thinking as I was singing, they obviously have to book us again, this is the most rocking gig they’ve had in the Marquee ever. But they didn’t. They didn’t let us back in there for ages because rock was working-class, rubbish music. It didn’t exist on an intellectual level like jazz. They saw the future and they didn’t like it. That was our first gig and the people we wanted to get the point just didn’t get it.

‘Maybe we could go back to the Marquee to accept a plaque for 50 years of service instead (of a tour). That could work – except Keith can’t obviously come. Charlie could come but he wouldn’t get the plaque, obviously.’

It is the first time Mick has mentioned Keith. It is clearly not looking good for any kind of reunion. I ask him if he played the SuperHeavy album to the Stones (Never Gonna Change is particularly reminiscent of the Stones sound).
‘Ronnie’s listened to it. He’s sweet, he’s very supportive. He liked it very much, he liked it all, particularly some of the first tracks we started with. And Charlie liked it. He’s all about the grooves, he’s got a great ear. Charlie and Ronnie both have their own things but they see the bigger picture. Not everyone sees the big picture.’
Stone and Stewart at the mixing desk
And Keith?

‘I don’t know if Keith really listens to that much. I don’t know what Keith listens to.’
I tell him Keith is usually quoted as saying he listens to Chuck Berry.

Jagger shrugs: ‘Yeah, that is what he says. I wonder if it is actually true.’

Why, given the forensic detail in Richards’ book, did Jagger take it upon himself to research details of the Stones’ first gig?

‘It isn’t necessarily correct,’ he says. ‘Everyone’s recollections of these things are all dim and distanced. It’s a very long time ago. A lot of things have been taken in the intervening period and your memory of it is different from one day to the next. Everyone has a different memory of what actually happened.

‘But if someone said to me, you are completely wrong Mick, Charlie played at the Marquee gig, here’s a picture – well maybe I was wrong. I don’t remember it like that but maybe he was there. But you see, then, that picture might have come from the October gig in the Marquee and who’s to know? And so the point is that somewhere around there, there was a band called the Rolling Stones but the actual first gig in July was not with Charlie or Bill (Wyman).’


Read more: [www.dailymail.co.uk]

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: 1962 ()
Date: September 12, 2011 16:42

This is just a PR work for 2012.

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: marcovandereijk ()
Date: September 12, 2011 16:52

What's the reputation of Daily Mail with regards to quoting people right, complete and within
context?

Just as long as the guitar plays, let it steal your heart away

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: RSbestbandever ()
Date: September 12, 2011 16:53

Quote
Rolling Hansie
smiling smiley LOL what a load of crock

I think so too RH. Some more enticing publicity thrown out there for people to clamor about. Some people are milking this for all they can but I firmly believe there is a Rolling Stones tour in the near future despite any "much talked about rift between those two".

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: RSbestbandever ()
Date: September 12, 2011 16:54

Quote
1962
This is just a PR work for 2012.


Exactly.

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: chelskeith ()
Date: September 12, 2011 16:56

"SOURCE" Camille Banzon - looks like she is just a BLOGGER

24 year old Music writer, International Business Times/ contributor, Clavel Sneaker Magazine/ full time freelancer

TWITTER ACCT @CamilleBanzon:
Music writer, International Business Times | Writer, CLAVEL Sneaker Magazine | Contributor, FHM.com.ph | Discombobulated mumbler

Her Twitter page has an Interesting background selection of skulls, haha

My name is Camille Banzon from Manila, Philippines. I am web content/ print writer and editor with 4 years of experience in the online industry. I cover many topics including music, entertainment, fashion, gaming, lifestyle, health, science, technology, sports and off-beat. When not writing, I love to read, watch movies, listen to music and surf the web for fresh and exciting news.

I have been writing for more than four years now, with my first job being a web content writer for a handful of entertainment and fashion sites. I am also a contributor for Clavel Sneaker Magazine covering artists, musicians, album reviews and store openings. Recently, I have been writing for the Australian Edition of the International Business Times as a sports reporter.

I cant find anything of any substance she has written-

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: M4000D ()
Date: September 12, 2011 16:57

Quote
marcovandereijk
What's the reputation of Daily Mail with regards to quoting people right, complete and within
context?

Yeah

Strange brew.

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: DragonSky ()
Date: September 12, 2011 17:08

I find it to be rather infantile. Mick said Keith can't obviously come obviously. And why would that be? No explanation given or asked.

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: Rickster ()
Date: September 12, 2011 17:10

If there was any truth to this why did they all get together for a meeting last week then? I think this is BS.

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: marcovandereijk ()
Date: September 12, 2011 17:10

Quote
M4000D
Quote
marcovandereijk
What's the reputation of Daily Mail with regards to quoting people right, complete and within
context?

Yeah

Strange brew.

It was a question, actually. But I guess your response is an answer?

Just as long as the guitar plays, let it steal your heart away

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: Sohoe ()
Date: September 12, 2011 17:15

<<Mick said Keith can't obviously come obviously. And why would that be?>>

DragonSky, it's a reference to the incident with Keith and Marquee owner Howard Pendleton back in 1971

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: September 12, 2011 17:16

Infantile is a great observation. It just doesn't sound remotely like Mick.
If you can even get past the line, except Keith obviously can't come. the line that totally blows it, is:

Charlie Watts [who wasn't at the first performance] can come but he wouldn't get the plaque obviously." says Jagger in a post by Times of India.

Plaque? Charlie Watts can come, but wouldn't be allowed to get, 'the plaque'.

Sounds ridiculous.

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Date: September 12, 2011 17:17

Quote
Sohoe
<<Mick said Keith can't obviously come obviously. And why would that be?>>

DragonSky, it's a reference to the incident with Keith and Marquee owner Howard Pendleton back in 1971

Right on!

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: gwen ()
Date: September 12, 2011 17:19

Quote

‘Maybe we could go back to the Marquee to accept a plaque for 50 years of service instead (of a tour). That could work – except Keith can’t obviously come. Charlie could come but he wouldn’t get the plaque, obviously.’

It's a reference to the Marquee / Keith incident(s), right?

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: September 12, 2011 17:20

Quote
Sohoe
it's a reference to the incident with Keith and Marquee owner Howard Pendleton

Good one. I totally missed that. Mick shows he still has humour smiling smiley

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Keep On Rolling smoking smiley

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: DragonSky ()
Date: September 12, 2011 17:26

Quote
Sohoe
<<Mick said Keith can't obviously come obviously. And why would that be?>>

DragonSky, it's a reference to the incident with Keith and Marquee owner Howard Pendleton back in 1971

Oh wow. How strange that that didn't occur to me - he only swung a guitar at his HEAD!

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Date: September 12, 2011 17:39

Pretty sure the joke was about the idea of collecting an honor. Mick joked about receiving a 50 year plaque instead of touring. They were discussing Keith's book and Keith's nose being out of joint over Mick's knighthood so Mick joked that Keith wouldn't accept the honor and Charlie wouldn't qualify since he wasn't in the band in 1962. That's really all that was said. The misinterpretation is just the press being sensational.

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: DragonSky ()
Date: September 12, 2011 17:40

Ah. Funny how that went over my head when I read it the first time.

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: September 12, 2011 17:40

Quote
WilliamPatrickMaynard
Pretty sure the joke was about the idea of collecting an honor. Mick joked about receiving a 50 year plaque instead of touring. They were discussing Keith's book and Keith's nose being out of joint over Mick's knighthood so Mick joked that Keith wouldn't accept the honor and Charlie wouldn't qualify since he wasn't in the band in 1962. That's really all that was said. The misinterpretation is just the press being sensational.

a voice of reason...that actually makes sense.

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: September 12, 2011 17:43

Quote
WilliamPatrickMaynard
Mick joked that Keith wouldn't accept the honor and Charlie wouldn't qualify since he wasn't in the band in 1962.

Thanks again for another good explanation

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Keep On Rolling smoking smiley

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: DragonSky ()
Date: September 12, 2011 17:51

Quote
WilliamPatrickMaynard
Pretty sure the joke was about the idea of collecting an honor. Mick joked about receiving a 50 year plaque instead of touring. They were discussing Keith's book and Keith's nose being out of joint over Mick's knighthood so Mick joked that Keith wouldn't accept the honor and Charlie wouldn't qualify since he wasn't in the band in 1962. That's really all that was said. The misinterpretation is just the press being sensational.

I think what truly lost me on that thinking it was BS is that the, ah, whatever you call a blogger; author of the article didn't review that AT ALL. And so in the first reading of it, well, it seemed ridiculous. But now, of course, having it pointed out, it's a huge DUH.

So it's not about the guitar at the head incident, it is about Mick becoming a Sir. I must be losing my touch ha ha.

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: crawdaddy ()
Date: September 12, 2011 17:54

I am convinced now that Mick was holding his own personal copy of ''LIFE'' as they left the building in London last week.Face to face with Keef he flicked the pages and told him what he thought.The article about Super Heavy is quite good but the Mick and Keith part of it has been extremely exaggerated out of all proportion in my opinion. spinning smiley sticking its tongue out



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2011-09-12 18:06 by crawdaddy.

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Date: September 12, 2011 18:00

Not positive. Just guesswork. Someone else posted the same here yesterday so I'm not the only one who was struck with the thought.

Since we already had posts analyzing their expressions in the photos snapped when they left the meeting in London last week, I'm surprised no one went back and re-interpreted their faces to be indicative of Keith getting his pink slip from Mick.

I'll help stir the pot: Keith is stunned, Charlie prances impishly with glee, Ronnie is so shocked he's started dating a wealthy man ten years older than him (who gallantly opens the door for his date), and Mick is hiding his notebook with a list of guitarists to replace Keith.

Needless to say speculation at IORR should be high that Mick Taylor tops the list. Who better to spur ticket sales?

There, that should be good for awhile.

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Posted by: proudmary ()
Date: September 12, 2011 18:12

Quote
WilliamPatrickMaynard
Not positive. Just guesswork. Someone else posted the same here yesterday so I'm not the only one who was struck with the thought.

Since we already had posts analyzing their expressions in the photos snapped when they left the meeting in London last week, I'm surprised no one went back and re-interpreted their faces to be indicative of Keith getting his pink slip from Mick.

I'll help stir the pot: Keith is stunned, Charlie prances impishly with glee, Ronnie is so shocked he's started dating a wealthy man ten years older than him (who gallantly opens the door for his date), and Mick is hiding his notebook with a list of guitarists to replace Keith.

Needless to say speculation at IORR should be high that Mick Taylor tops the list. Who better to spur ticket sales?

There, that should be good for awhile.


May be at the meeting Mick said the same thing as in the interview - he is willing to mark the 50th anniversary with one concert, but he doesn't want to tour. After this concert the Stones will be over and each of them may go his separate road.

Re: Mick Jagger Wants Rolling Stones Reunion Without Keith Richards
Date: September 12, 2011 18:14

And we have the first one to take the bait. Thanks for joining in the fun, Mary.

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