Mick owes Stones fans nothing. He's a successful artists who has earned himself the ability to do whatever the $%&# he wants to.

Just because there are fans out there who base their lives around his band nd feel entitled to empty their accounts for some imagined "50th Anniversary Ca$h-Cow", does not mean that Mick has to oblige.

The only purpose I can see THAT serve would be so Keith and Charlie can fianlly retire, as they should (well, Charlie would likely welcome that but Keith SHOULD retire the music industry without anything creatively left to offer us).

COme to think of it maybe Mich SHOULD do the "50th Wallet Rape to Hear Keith Play 3 notes per solo" tour if only to be an artist with the albatross bearing down every 3-4-5 years.

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Only three Supergroups that I know of.

John, Paul, George, and Ringo.

Mick, Keith, Charlie, Bill, Mick T. and Ronnie.

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I disagree in as much as I find Mick and Dave's songwriting collaborations to be hit and miss. "Old Habits Die Hard," "The Blind Leading the Blind," and "Kow Tow" are among Mick's best solo work and stand nicely alongside WANDERING SPIRIT. I would put them up against any Jagger-Richards tracks from the same period.

Of course, if we're talking "Ruthless People" or "Let's Work," I might just agree with you.

"Kow Tow" is the best solo Mick from the 80s, while "Blind Leading the Blind" is one of the best Mick has ever done, ever. But that's because Mick sounds good, i doubt Stewart provoked that - Jagger just happened to be inspired. Stewart is too safe. I don't care if Mick explores his options outside the Stones, never have, but I just wish he would work with people more adventurous. Look at Plant, working with Alison Krauss, or whoever. Jagger tends to play it safe and it does no wonders for his art or creativity. I wish he would step out on a limb.



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Mick owes Stones fans nothing. He's a successful artists who has earned himself the ability to do whatever the $%&# he wants to.

Just because there are fans out there who base their lives around his band nd feel entitled to empty their accounts for some imagined "50th Anniversary Ca$h-Cow", does not mean that Mick has to oblige.

The only purpose I can see THAT serve would be so Keith and Charlie can fianlly retire, as they should (well, Charlie would likely welcome that but Keith SHOULD retire the music industry without anything creatively left to offer us).

COme to think of it maybe Mich SHOULD do the "50th Wallet Rape to Hear Keith Play 3 notes per solo" tour if only to be an artist with the albatross bearing down every 3-4-5 years.

I don't get it. If touring after 49 years is not something he wanted to do, why would touring after 50 years.

Why would anyone want to see a 50 year anniversity tour? It would obviously be a disaster. Stones are my favorite band easily, but anyone who wants to see them tour again is just plain nuts. They are almost 70 years old for Gods sake. They look awful and they can't play anymore. Stop encouraging them to make a joke of themselves and destroy their legacy more then they already have.

Gee how can anyone not see this.

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Well, well, well. It turns out May 21, 2011 really was the end of the world,
or at least the end of the world as we know it, with regards to the Rolling
Stones. Or as A.R. Rahman put it on his facebook page: the birth date
of Super Heavy.

Y'know, I started my participation on these Super Heavy threads with
the observation that Mick tends to get involved in these non-Stones
things when it is his observation that Keith and the fans don't really
miss the Stones enough, and are not really putting their hearts into it.

Well, do you miss the Stones enough now?

No? Not yet?

Don't worry, you will.

The other observation I made in the beginning was that Mick was a
stunningly bold artist. And is there any more bold of a statement that
he could have made than to have turned his back on the Stones 50th
to join another band as just a musician, musical composer, and backup
vocalist?

Some of you may be asking, tell us, Rev, tell us, what must we do to
get the Rolling Stones to return? Well, I suggest clapping, and clapping
hard, and clapping long. Clapping for Mick. And for Keith. And for Charlie
and for Ronnie. Clap your little hearts out. Or else Tinkerbell will die.

I have to admit I like your style, twenny, you are definitely entertaining, however, you have yet to see the power of the Magical Mystery Tour, or have you?

I don't think so. All I remember about the magical mystery tour is that they
promised me if I rolled up to it, I'd get everything I need, and my satisfaction
was guaranteed. But all I got was this shitty cardboard walrus mask.

Must have been the wrong Magical Mystery Tour. Welcome to the world of magic where all dreams come true. Yes, Super Heavy will roll, as will the Stones, we will have the best of both worlds and soar to heights never before achieved.

I think our best bet is to pray that Keith gets to work writing a lot of
new music for the Stones, which will get us our slightly-belated 50th in 2013.
But if Keith puts his energy into part 2 of his autobio, as he has threatened,
or into the Winos, as he also threatens, then all bets are off. Mick has his
ten songs ready for the 50th, as promised, so where's Keith's? I mean, a lot
of Stones fans say they don't like how Mick writes music, so again, where's Keith's?

2012 is the year, enjoy the ride!

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Mick owes Stones fans nothing. He's a successful artists who has earned himself the ability to do whatever the $%&# he wants to.

Just because there are fans out there who base their lives around his band nd feel entitled to empty their accounts for some imagined "50th Anniversary Ca$h-Cow", does not mean that Mick has to oblige.

The only purpose I can see THAT serve would be so Keith and Charlie can fianlly retire, as they should (well, Charlie would likely welcome that but Keith SHOULD retire the music industry without anything creatively left to offer us).

COme to think of it maybe Mich SHOULD do the "50th Wallet Rape to Hear Keith Play 3 notes per solo" tour if only to be an artist with the albatross bearing down every 3-4-5 years.

I don't get it. If touring after 49 years is not something he wanted to do, why would touring after 50 years.

Why would anyone want to see a 50 year anniversity tour? It would obviously be a disaster. Stones are my favorite band easily, but anyone who wants to see them tour again is just plain nuts. They are almost 70 years old for Gods sake. They look awful and they can't play anymore. Stop encouraging them to make a joke of themselves and destroy their legacy more then they already have.

Gee how can anyone not see this.

For one thing they don't really need to tour at all, all they really need to do is focus on doing a few shows to commemorate their 50th. "Call up" Wyman and Taylor and rehearse their asses off. A new album would be frosting on the cake.

Crow - let it go

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Crow - let it go

I promise if on May 31, 2012 we are still spinning our wheels I will let it go. In the meantime I will just shut up for awhile, at least on the subject of a 50th anniversary tour. I am actually starting to annoy myself.

this is not a supergroup. not close.

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"Lonely Without You" I get, selections by other "group" members might strike some as semi-OT.

Well, I have a much different view. I don't put quotes around the word "group".
These are not sidemen or backing musicians. These are Mick's full partners
in his new venture, his close collaborators, all of them his co-writers and
co-producers, not on a solo project, not on a soundtrack, but in a new band
that is seeking a recording contract and seeking to tour. These are Mick's new
Keith Richardses, and so I view their previous work as being actually even more
relevant than Ronnie Wood's pre-Stones work, or Mick Taylor's post-Stones stuff.

Joss Stone, son of a preacher man, live, redddddddd hot!

(Now, when Mick writes a melody that's kinda outside his range, whamo!
Just hand it to Joss.)







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Y'know, at first, I was sure that this was just Mick fcuking around again,
with some hot chick on the side. But I forgot he doesn't do that anymore.
No, its much more serious this time. He's fallen in love with somebody else.
I'm really sorry we were such bitches to him, worse than marianne and bianca
and jerry combined, and I guess the only thing I'm surprised about is that
he loved us as long as he did, the way we behaved. But I'm doing better now,
I think, only a few crying jags this morning. And to be honest, yeah, I do
hope he falls out of love with them at some point and back in love with us,
but I know that's not likely, so I'm trying to get strong and move on.
I mean, I'd even settle for one more good roll in the hay with Mick, if he
ever gets bored or is mistreated by his new love...

Anyway, Mick, just so you know I'll always care, this one is for you,
"Beautiful" by Damian Marley:

(now, when Mick writes a rap, instead of having to face scorn and disdain
for daring to do so at his age, whamo! just hand it to Damian.)







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I said earlier that I believed that one important factor in this break-up
was Keith not keeping his promise to work hard on writing music for the
50th anniversary. I said Keith figured he could call Mick's bluff and
Mick would just fold and do most of the work anyway. Little did Keith
know that Mick was holding a royal flush (ten of hearts Dave, Jack Damian,
Queen Joss, King A.R., and of course our ace Mick). And what was Kieth
holding? Pfff. Sixes and sevens and nines.

Here's a slight but pretty piece from the Slumdog Millionaire soundtrack,
which shows that Allah Racka Rahman can do "subtle" too. By the way,
I'm not sure, but isn't it pronounced Allah Rocker Rockman? Oh my god,
another Rockman!







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The quotes around "group" that you found to be a slight to Mick's equals in writing and producing and performing are also to be found in the thread title as well.

Glad you've moved on and have accepted that SUPER HEAVY is the band for you now and far better than the Stones could ever hope to be in 2011. I'd like to dedicate "Hey, Jude" to those who have not yet come to terms with this. Rev, care to post a Youtube link?

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Glad you've moved on and have accepted that SUPER HEAVY is the band for you now and far better than the Stones could ever hope to be in 2011.

Thanks for the kind wishes, but I'm not there yet. As I was saying, it's not been
easy. At first, the denial, that no way could the Stones be finished. Then the
anger, at Keith and y'all for killing them. Then stage 3, the tears, which
haven't stopped yet, just slowed a bit. I think I've rushed a bit too fast
into stage 4, the red red wine. Oh well, it kinda goes with all these fine
beats from Damien, A.R., and (be still my heart) JOSS!

...a supergroup would have been with Jack White on Guitar, Ringo on Drums and Jack Bruce on bass...

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...a supergroup would have been with Jack White on Guitar, Ringo on Drums and Jack Bruce on bass...

To me that would be if Bob Dylan, George Harrison, Jeff Lynne, Roy Orbison and Tom Petty would form a group.

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I don't get it.

Don't worry. That happens a lot to me too

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...a supergroup would have been with Jack White on Guitar, Ringo on Drums and Jack Bruce on bass...

To me that would be if Bob Dylan, George Harrison, Jeff Lynne, Roy Orbison and Tom Petty would form a group.

and THEY DID!

these so called supergroups are usually a full on bore-fest...........



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...a supergroup would have been with Jack White on Guitar, Ringo on Drums and Jack Bruce on bass...

Of those three, only Jack White has the necessary artistic heft and work ethic
for Super Heavy, but not really the right style or temperment. Hopefully Jack
White can work with Mick on one of the bluesy rootsy solo albums Mick will be
doing when Super Heavy is on hiatus.

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these so called supergroups are usually a full on bore-fest...........

I agree, let's not call Super Heavy a supergroup, because that implies
that the individuals are more important than the whole, whereas Super
Heavy is really just a band, where only the music matters. That's why
the least well known and wealthy members, Damian and Joss, will be
the most visible.

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these so called supergroups are usually a full on bore-fest...........

I agree, let's not call Super Heavy a supergroup, because that implies
that the individuals are more important than the whole, whereas Super
Heavy is really just a band, where only the music matters. That's why
the least well known and wealthy members, Damian and Joss, will be
the most visible.

What about Miles Davis-Wayne Shorter-Herbie Hancock-Ron Carter-Tony Williams

This is Miles Super-Quintet...Boring?



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I wake up refreshed this morning content in the knowledge that I too helped kill The Rolling Stones.

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I wake up refreshed this morning content in the knowledge that I too helped kill The Rolling Stones.

Joke if you must, joke if it helps kill the pain of MAYBE having to deal with
the death of the Stones. Obviously I have no inside information. Neither am
I predicting or prophesizing. I'm just laying odds like everybody else. Know
this: I've been a fan since 1964, and never once, amidst any and every
crisis, neither with the loss of Jones nor Taylor nor Oldham nor Stu nor
Klein nor Jimmy Miller nor even when M and K were at each other throats nor
when ronnie or charlie were all but gone, did I ever raise my personal odds-
meter of the stones ending above zero percent. never once.

but now, in all sincerity, in light of recent events, suddenly i find that meter
at 55%. i don't like it, its like my worst fear come maybe true, but i am
trying to deal with it, in my own patented atypical way, of writing about it
and living it, in a sense. its hard to face your worst fear. I'm sorry if
my way of doing it, of speculating on it, and putting myself through it,
is unpleasant to you or anyone else. But my speculations are not empty,
they are based on the evidence available at this time, however scant that
may be. One thing to my advantage: if it happens, I've been going through
it already, while y'all have chosen to cling to equally speculative
pie-in-the-sky.

I pray y'all are right, but what should I do if I honestly think there's
a very good chance that you're wrong?

Lastly, to get back to your joke: I've written at length at what I think
has been the essentially damaging role of the Stones hardcore fan over the
last fifteen or twenty years, both on this website and on others. I've
yet to receive a substantive rebuttal, just empty jokes like yours, or
other responses that put the responsibility, or potential responsibility,
elsewhere. Lately, it has become the fashion to put it all on Keith (just
like everybody used to put it all on Mick), but I have made a well-reasoned
argument on why I think it runs more deeply and much more broadly than
that. I'll just say this: the more people scoff, the more people try to
run away from what is right now happening to their precious rolling stones
and try to pretend that NOTHING is happening, the more (sadly) i become
convinced that we've reached our waterloo.

you're starting to frighten me, twenny revlights
twenny revlights = Harold Camping?



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There's a rumuor going which that says Justin Bieber will be in the "supergroup"

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......according to DS 18 tracks....2 yr project. There go the good ones (songs that is)

there are zero songs brought into this project by mick jagger. every single
Super Heavy song was the on-site spontaneous invention of the entire SH band.
whatever songs mick has written for the stones in the last six years are
still there now and will still be there come 2012.



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A.R. Rahman with the Pussy Cat Dolls.

Over 35 million youtube views!

Thank you for all of the great links!

You're of course welcome. Funny that you chose my favorite. Hooda thunket?
My current favorite rolling stones related video is by the pussy cat dolls lol!

Jai Ho! (May victory be yours!)



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I'll now finish up my survey of the prior work of the
Glimmer Quints, with the posting of my last three
suggested videos. I've watched at least fifty, but
have tried to choose only the dozen or so that seem
to me to possibly give the best insight into what
Mick is doing, and why. I think this next one is
important in that A.R. sets down a nice groove and
then places on top of it a succession of voices,
male and female, solo and group, eastern and western,
and it all works as a unified track. While I still
think the featured numbers from Super Heavy will primarily
front just Damien and Joss, I think some of the deeper
cuts will be more like this, leaving room for grandpa
jagger to express himself vocally.