For information about how to use this forum please check out forum help and policies.
Quote
DandelionPowderman
<Beginning of the end of good Stones rock>
Really? What is SG then, a pop album? ER? TY?
Quote
NaturalustQuote
DandelionPowderman
<Beginning of the end of good Stones rock>
Really? What is SG then, a pop album? ER? TY?
Yep. Some Girls was a good record but the punk/disco vibe and new guitar sounds signaled a death knell for the pure rock Stones that I fell in love with. Don't even get me started on ER and TY. What's clear is that the Stones changed. I'll take the big 4 records over SG, TY and ER anyday. It's all a matter of taste of course but I'm sure there are plenty of fans who understand what I'm talking about.
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
NaturalustQuote
DandelionPowderman
<Beginning of the end of good Stones rock>
Really? What is SG then, a pop album? ER? TY?
Yep. Some Girls was a good record but the punk/disco vibe and new guitar sounds signaled a death knell for the pure rock Stones that I fell in love with. Don't even get me started on ER and TY. What's clear is that the Stones changed. I'll take the big 4 records over SG, TY and ER anyday. It's all a matter of taste of course but I'm sure there are plenty of fans who understand what I'm talking about.
That's your opinion, and that's ok. But to say "surely it was the beginning of the end" is a stretch - imo.
Quote
NaturalustQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
NaturalustQuote
DandelionPowderman
<Beginning of the end of good Stones rock>
Really? What is SG then, a pop album? ER? TY?
Yep. Some Girls was a good record but the punk/disco vibe and new guitar sounds signaled a death knell for the pure rock Stones that I fell in love with. Don't even get me started on ER and TY. What's clear is that the Stones changed. I'll take the big 4 records over SG, TY and ER anyday. It's all a matter of taste of course but I'm sure there are plenty of fans who understand what I'm talking about.
That's your opinion, and that's ok. But to say "surely it was the beginning of the end" is a stretch - imo.
Let's just say that it was the beginning of the end for "old fashioned" Stones music to quote Mick. I think Keith's rhythm on HOF is timeless rock stuff, never get tired of it. Bands like The Black Crowes showed that millions of other rock fans hadn't gotten their fill either.
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
NaturalustQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
NaturalustQuote
DandelionPowderman
<Beginning of the end of good Stones rock>
Really? What is SG then, a pop album? ER? TY?
Yep. Some Girls was a good record but the punk/disco vibe and new guitar sounds signaled a death knell for the pure rock Stones that I fell in love with. Don't even get me started on ER and TY. What's clear is that the Stones changed. I'll take the big 4 records over SG, TY and ER anyday. It's all a matter of taste of course but I'm sure there are plenty of fans who understand what I'm talking about.
That's your opinion, and that's ok. But to say "surely it was the beginning of the end" is a stretch - imo.
Let's just say that it was the beginning of the end for "old fashioned" Stones music to quote Mick. I think Keith's rhythm on HOF is timeless rock stuff, never get tired of it. Bands like The Black Crowes showed that millions of other rock fans hadn't gotten their fill either.
The old fashioned Stones music had a revival with Some Girls, to paraphrase Mick
Quote
DandelionPowderman
Yes it was. The good old Stones played three chords r&b in the 60s, in case you forgot. SG was loaded with songs like that. No misquote, btw
Quote
NaturalustQuote
DandelionPowderman
Yes it was. The good old Stones played three chords r&b in the 60s, in case you forgot. SG was loaded with songs like that. No misquote, btw
Perhaps you are quoting Mick talking about a revival with SG, but certainly not a revival of old fashioned Stones music? It's so obvious SG was a departure with it's punk, new wave and disco stylings, no? Maybe if you produced the quote you are paraphrasing I could understand what context it was made in.....I get the feeling you are just messing with me, which I don't mind of course.
Quote
NaturalustQuote
DandelionPowderman
Yes it was. The good old Stones played three chords r&b in the 60s, in case you forgot. SG was loaded with songs like that. No misquote, btw
Perhaps you are quoting Mick talking about a revival with SG, but certainly not a revival of old fashioned Stones music? It's so obvious SG was a departure with it's punk, new wave and disco stylings, no? Maybe if you produced the quote you are paraphrasing I could understand what context it was made in.....I get the feeling you are just messing with me, which I don't mind of course.
Quote
HMS
The Stones invented punk. Listen to "She Said Yeah".
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
NaturalustQuote
DandelionPowderman
Yes it was. The good old Stones played three chords r&b in the 60s, in case you forgot. SG was loaded with songs like that. No misquote, btw
Perhaps you are quoting Mick talking about a revival with SG, but certainly not a revival of old fashioned Stones music? It's so obvious SG was a departure with it's punk, new wave and disco stylings, no? Maybe if you produced the quote you are paraphrasing I could understand what context it was made in.....I get the feeling you are just messing with me, which I don't mind of course.
I think you are taking the "punk" in SG too seriously. It was good ol' Stones rock a la Brian era, only with an angrier front man.
IWBYM is a good comparison indeed.
So, no, it was not obvious that SG was a departure. Instead, one might say that songs on GHS and IORR represented a departure from good old Stones rock.
I'm not messing with you. Mick said that the SG were revisiting the Brian era rock - or something similar.
Quote
HMS
The Stones invented punk. Listen to "She Said Yeah".
Quote
His MajestyQuote
HMS
The Stones invented punk. Listen to "She Said Yeah".
Sexual, R&B rave up, not punk.
Quote
HMS
Hand Of Fate has everything a Stones-fan could wish for. One of their best post-exile songs.
Quote
His MajestyQuote
HMS
Hand Of Fate has everything a Stones-fan could wish for. One of their best post-exile songs.
Hardly, it's missing so much that made them great.
HOF is more akin to stuff other bands put out trying to sound like the stones.
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
His MajestyQuote
HMS
Hand Of Fate has everything a Stones-fan could wish for. One of their best post-exile songs.
Hardly, it's missing so much that made them great.
HOF is more akin to stuff other bands put out trying to sound like the stones.
He he, in a way that's spot on
That said, other bands rarely succeed in making it as good, though.
Quote
DandelionPowderman
I'd say r&b with a punk attitude.
Quote
Turner68
"She Said Yeah" is arguably *more* punk...
Quote
His MajestyQuote
DandelionPowderman
I'd say r&b with a punk attitude.
Nah, there's no punk attitude there.
Quote
His MajestyQuote
Turner68
"She Said Yeah" is arguably *more* punk...
Something that is not punk cannot be more punk.
Quote
NaturalustQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
NaturalustQuote
DandelionPowderman
Yes it was. The good old Stones played three chords r&b in the 60s, in case you forgot. SG was loaded with songs like that. No misquote, btw
Perhaps you are quoting Mick talking about a revival with SG, but certainly not a revival of old fashioned Stones music? It's so obvious SG was a departure with it's punk, new wave and disco stylings, no? Maybe if you produced the quote you are paraphrasing I could understand what context it was made in.....I get the feeling you are just messing with me, which I don't mind of course.
I think you are taking the "punk" in SG too seriously. It was good ol' Stones rock a la Brian era, only with an angrier front man.
IWBYM is a good comparison indeed.
So, no, it was not obvious that SG was a departure. Instead, one might say that songs on GHS and IORR represented a departure from good old Stones rock.
I'm not messing with you. Mick said that the SG were revisiting the Brian era rock - or something similar.
Well we will just have to disagree on this one. IORR and GHS were still firmly rooted in the rock vibe I'm referring to and SG resembles Brian era rock like a giraffe resembles an alligator. I am surprised you can't hear the obvious difference in both sound, style and songwriting that is so clear to me on Some Girls.
Quote
DandelionPowderman
The song is a riot, a sonical war, fast, heavy and uproar-ish. The roughness and aggressiveness gives me a feeling reminiscent of what we today know as punk.