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one question about HTW from Gimme shelter.

Could you please tell me at which point of the track is the cut between 28 second show and 27 ?

I think it's exactly at the end of "divorcee in New York City" but I'm not sure.

Sorry, I'm here again with my enquiry which remained unreplied.

Can somebody help me to detect HTW splitting point? This mix from Gimme shelter corresponds to the original versions or is overdubbed?

Yes I think you are right with the end of "divorcee in New York City". You can even hear the slightly different sound.

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sorry .nov 28 1st,(gimme shelter soundtrack)

So we've got two dates for the dialogue. Sounds good. I've edited JJF from the 27th appropriately to disguise the mixed dialogue.

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Carol - performed on the 28/11 1st show without the vocal overdub.

Thanks to Vancouver for help with uploading the file

Sympathy For The Devil 28/11 1st show - We know about the edit but does it have a vocal overdub? After listening to the audience recordings of the the other two MSG performances I'm inclined to think it has. IMO the only two perfomances on Ya Ya's without a vocal overdub appear to be LIV and MR

I've been very much looking into building a compilation of the original soundboard recordings from MSG 1969 during the pandemic so I found this thread if it's okay to rehash it from the dead. So far this is the information I have about the sources from Get Yer Ya Yas Out:

Jumpin' Jack Flash (MSG 11/27) [Vocals Overdubbed]
Carol (11/28, 1st Show) [Vocals Overdubbed]
Stray Cat Blues (Baltimore 11/26 and/or MSG 11/28, 1st Show) [Vocals Overdubbed]
Love In Vain (Baltimore 11/26)
Midnight Rambler (MSG, 11/28, 2nd Show)
Sympathy For The Devil (MSG 11/28, 1st Show) [Vocals Overdubbed]
Live With Me (MSG 11/28, 2nd Show) [Vocals Overdubbed]
Little Queenie (MSG 11/28, 1st Show) [Vocals Overdubbed]
Honky Tonk Women (MSG 11/27 & 11/28, 2nd Show) [Vocals Overdubbed]
Street Fighting Man (MSG 11/28, 1st Show) [Vocals Overdubbed]

A few questions. Does anyone know for sure the source of Stray Cat Blues? Listening to the Baltimore version, it sounds very similar to the one on GYYYO but not quite at the same time. It's a shame there's no complete bootleg of the MSG 11/28, 1st Show to know for sure. Second, there was talk here of the VHS copy of GIMME SHELTER having bonus footage of the version of Carol from GYYYO with its original vocals. Is anyone able to post that here?

Much appreciated!!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2020-10-19 06:58 by JordyLicks96.

I found this on a DVD-R when I was recently doing a clean up. It was originally posted here via a youtube link about 10 years ago. Interesting because it is the Yas Ya's version without the vocal overdub. The audio of this appeared a year ago as part of the Abcko 2020 dump.

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Speaking of which, wouldn't all the Abkco dump recordings of a year ago be considered basically "soundboard" or close enough? Are the old ones somehow superior or just give different audio tracks? I mean except for the early show on the 28th which was incomplete in the dump case.


plexi

Wow, dear Stones friends.

So happy to see the rollingstones.net research still referenced.

Vocals were the first and most obvious comparison against audience and movie recordings.

Musically, I looked for unique 'sound markers' like 'feedback' or 'throwback' as MJ would say.

Note-by-note and bar-by-bar analysis is really a challenge.

Don't forget the ABKCO RS69TRAX releases on youtube New Year's eve 2019.

They are soundboards and sensational when properly filtered.

I will finish the ABCKO copyright analysis this year!

Yours,

Chris M.
chrism42@aol.com

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