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Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Date: December 15, 2009 13:10

Carol - the outtake on the VHS release ‘Gimme Shelter’ (Criterion/Homevision GIM 10 is the performance from 28 Nov, 1st Show. It is a different performance than that on the DVD ‘Gimme Shelter’ (Criterion Collection 99). As noted prevously, the version of Carol on the DVD is from the 28 Nov, 2nd show. The VHS outtake version from 28/11 1st show has the same instrumental track as Ya Ya's and Time Trip 4 but has a different (the original) vocal. The versions on Ya Ya's and Time Trip 4 have an overdubbed vocal.

Check Nico's reference 001114A (14th November 2000)

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: December 15, 2009 13:18

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Right Shoe Shuffle
The VHS outtake version from 28/11 1st show has the same instrumental track as Ya Ya's and Time Trip 4 but has a different (the original) vocal.

Is this version available other than than the VHS? Youtube?

Mathijs

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Date: December 15, 2009 13:26

I have the VHS version.Not sure if its on Youtube. The picture blanks out for about 50% of the perfomance but the audio is complete

Check Nicos reference 001121A (21st November)

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Posted by: straycat58 ()
Date: December 15, 2009 13:46

one question about HTW from Gimme shelter.

Could you please tell me at which point of the track is the cut between 28 second show and 27 ?

I think it's exactly at the end of "divorcee in New York City" but I'm not sure.

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Posted by: Eleanor Rigby ()
Date: December 15, 2009 14:24

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Right Shoe Shuffle
I have the VHS version.Not sure if its on Youtube. The picture blanks out for about 50% of the perfomance but the audio is complete

Check Nicos reference 001121A (21st November)

I don't have this either. Don't think I've heard the "original" Carol without overdubs...can you transfer to flac?

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Posted by: WeLoveYou ()
Date: December 17, 2009 18:39

Does anyone know - are there any decent bootlegs of Jumpin' Jack Flash 28-2 and Midnight Rambler 28-1 & 27...perhaps in Hot Stuff?

Cheers,
WLY



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2009-12-17 18:44 by WeLoveYou.

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Date: December 18, 2009 09:50

Carol- 28/11 1st Show from the VHS version of Gimme Shelter. I have the FLAC file of this. Any tips on how to upload it?

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Posted by: vancouver ()
Date: December 18, 2009 10:38

[sendspace.com]


x down left "agree to the terms of service


search the flack file and then upload..then you got a key mark/copy

& paste here

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Date: December 18, 2009 11:24

[www.sendspace.com]

Carol - performed on the 28/11 1st show without the vocal overdub.

Thanks to Vancouver for help with uploading the file

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Posted by: vancouver ()
Date: December 18, 2009 11:45

i didn't not know there was bonus on the vhs !!

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Posted by: vancouver ()
Date: December 18, 2009 11:48

thanks !

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Date: December 18, 2009 12:00

Why did he do vocal overdubs on this one? Great vocals.

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Posted by: Single Malt ()
Date: December 18, 2009 12:54

Thank you very much, Right Shoe Shuffle.

Great vocals. It amazes me why Mick overdubbed so many great original vocals. But now I can add this to my own compilation of Get Yer...

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Posted by: HEILOOBAAS ()
Date: December 18, 2009 18:21

"We're gon' do one more an' we gon' go", is this an overdub or did Mick really say this?


"The Rolling Stones wanted to destroy hotel rooms.
Roxy Music wanted to redecorate them."

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Posted by: Eleanor Rigby ()
Date: December 19, 2009 10:03

excellent - thanks guys

"We're gon' do one more an' we gon' go", is this an overdub or did Mick really say this?

I suspect it's an overdub...but obviously not certain.

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Posted by: Tornandfrayed ()
Date: December 19, 2009 12:21

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Right Shoe Shuffle
[www.sendspace.com]

Carol - performed on the 28/11 1st show without the vocal overdub.

Thanks to Vancouver for help with uploading the file

Thanks so much for sharing, for years I always wanted to her the original version and I never knew it was actually officially released.

Great performance, I don´t know why he thought he needed to do vocal overdubs.

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Date: December 19, 2009 12:35

IMO it seems to play slower than the official overdubbed version on Ya Ya's although I haven't timed it.

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Posted by: Happy Jack ()
Date: December 19, 2009 15:51

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Right Shoe Shuffle
[www.sendspace.com]

Carol - performed on the 28/11 1st show without the vocal overdub.

Thanks to Vancouver for help with uploading the file

Thanks this will help me in the reconstruction of Ya-Ya's. Now are there any more songs from the 28-11 first show without overdubs?

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Posted by: midnrambler ()
Date: December 19, 2009 15:56

Thanks again to everybody who contributed to this thread. I have updated the original post again (with the Carol findings).

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Posted by: WeLoveYou ()
Date: December 19, 2009 19:43

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WeLoveYou
Does anyone know - are there any decent bootlegs of Jumpin' Jack Flash 28-2 and Midnight Rambler 28-1 & 27...perhaps in Hot Stuff?

Cheers,
WLY


Anyone?

Thanks

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Date: December 20, 2009 02:51

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Right Shoe Shuffle
[www.sendspace.com]

Carol - performed on the 28/11 1st show without the vocal overdub.

Thanks to Vancouver for help with uploading the file


This is from a second generation copy of the VHS version of Gimme Shelter released in November 2000. Does anyone have access to a 1st generation source? It would be nice to listen to it in higher fidelity

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Posted by: Sohoe ()
Date: December 20, 2009 03:09

Thanks a lot for that little gem, RSS

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Posted by: bigtyke66 ()
Date: December 20, 2009 05:31

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Right Shoe Shuffle
[www.sendspace.com]

Carol - performed on the 28/11 1st show without the vocal overdub.

Thanks to Vancouver for help with uploading the file
Many thanks for circulating this version!

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Posted by: Eleanor Rigby ()
Date: December 20, 2009 05:44

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vancouver
street fighting man on "gimme shelter" after the voiceover from nov 28 2nd,,,

yes, and if you watch carefully in the GS movie it ends back on the 1st show ! How bizarre!!
Check out Keith's blue top right at the end of the song...he wore this on the "breakfast show".

Also, slightly off topic, the petal throwing you see on the YaYa's delux bonus DVD (at end of Satisfaction) is at the end of SFM #2 show from the 28th...the same petal throwing which can be seen on the Gimme Shelter DVD but from a different camera man.

It was also brought to my attention the slow-mo scenes during Under My Thumb/I'm Free on the bonus DVD is not from the song. Jagger wears his belt at the start of the song, but it's missing during the slow-mo's...so it would be footage after Midnight Rambler...

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Posted by: Happy Jack ()
Date: December 20, 2009 07:10

I made this composite of the intro of Carol from the Shot of Salvation boot and the link posted by Right Shoe Shuffle above. The sound quality differs slightly, but at least the vocals are undubbed:
[www.sendspace.com]

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Posted by: vancouver ()
Date: December 20, 2009 08:27

the dialouge "trousers" is from nov 27.

" the old one for you" nov 28 1st

i did a composite of these two together,

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Posted by: Happy Jack ()
Date: December 20, 2009 08:50

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vancouver
the dialouge "trousers" is from nov 27.

" the old one for you" nov 28 1st

i did a composite of these two together,

Does yours have the same intro? I just took the intro from the Shot of Salvation (which I know as you pointed out is partly from Nov 27 based on the audience recording of that show) and pasted it onto the undubbed version. Is there more dialogue that occurred between JJF and Carol?

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Posted by: vancouver ()
Date: December 20, 2009 09:12

hi ..after jjf "you just gonna wake up" nov 28 2:nd

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Posted by: vancouver ()
Date: December 20, 2009 09:13

sorry .nov 28 1st,(gimme shelter soundtrack)

Re: MSG 1969 Soundboards
Posted by: straycat58 ()
Date: December 20, 2009 12:25

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straycat58
one question about HTW from Gimme shelter.

Could you please tell me at which point of the track is the cut between 28 second show and 27 ?

I think it's exactly at the end of "divorcee in New York City" but I'm not sure.


Sorry, I'm here again with my enquiry which remained unreplied.

Can somebody help me to detect HTW splitting point? This mix from Gimme shelter corresponds to the original versions or is overdubbed?

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