For information about how to use this forum please check out forum help and policies.
Quote
timbernardis
a phrase for the ages: "guitar wankery" -- gotta love it, gotta remember it, and gotta use it again!!!
The band that IS or WAS into heavy guitar wankery - the Grateful Bore. Actually not so, as it was appropriate in their case, and best listened to whilst stoned on Thai weed.
p
Quote
buffalo7478
I'm not sure I could put Jerry Garcia into the great soloists category...and only mind-blowing when the listener is stoned.
Quote
Winning Ugly VXII
It was played in concert a couple of times in 1971 (according to a few people in the band > Wyman,plus a couple others) and then not again in public until 2002. It was rehearsed other times,in the early '70's and mid to late '90's for examples.
Just because they may have rehearsed it in '72,that doesn't mean there is proof that they wanted it to be a part of the 1972 shows.They rehearsed IORR for the 1978 tour but didn't play it again until 1989 if you don't count Live Aid and stuff like that from the mid '80's. We all know that they could have played IORR in '78 but,they did not want to despite rehearsing it.That's just one example.
Quote
Rocky Dijon
He also wrote about how unfortunate it was that Taj Mahal couldn't make it to the taping of ROCK 'N' ROLL CIRCUS.
Quote
I'm not sure I could put Jerry Garcia into the great soloists category...and only mind-blowing when the listener is stoned. I saw him twice with his own band in 1978 and 1979, and twice with the Dead in the early 80s. He did zero for me, but the other 15,000 people that were tripping thought he was god. He did solo a lot, but it went nowhere and was usually struggling to stay in tune.
Quote
T&AQuote
Winning Ugly VXII
It was played in concert a couple of times in 1971 (according to a few people in the band > Wyman,plus a couple others) and then not again in public until 2002. It was rehearsed other times,in the early '70's and mid to late '90's for examples.
Just because they may have rehearsed it in '72,that doesn't mean there is proof that they wanted it to be a part of the 1972 shows.They rehearsed IORR for the 1978 tour but didn't play it again until 1989 if you don't count Live Aid and stuff like that from the mid '80's. We all know that they could have played IORR in '78 but,they did not want to despite rehearsing it.That's just one example.
i still have doubts about the veracity of the live '71 reports. wyman's memory isn't fail-proof....he also contends they did johnny b. goode...and there's not other verifiable proof of that....
Quote
wood played taylor note-for-note? ha. there's at least major probs with that assertion....
i agree 100%,i saw the stones do cyhmk in hartford 2002 and ronnie channeled mick taylor's vibe in the begining of the solo and then went on hos own merry way with the solo. ronnie is not gonna RIPOFF mick taylor's solo note for note because that's beneath him. why? because ronnie wants to put his own stamp on the solo ,but he begins in the same place as mick taylor did .another example when the stones did SWAY in foxboro 2006 and giants stadium 2006. ronnie starts the solo in the same place as mick taylor did then incorporates his own stamp on the solo .ronnie is to aware of mick taylor's style and signature of the songs because that's his job to know this stuff .and i dont really think it would go over to well to be doing note for note RIPOFFS of mick taylor's guitar solosQuote
T&A
wood played taylor note-for-note? ha. there's at least major probs with that assertion....
Quote
kahoosier
Well T&A, I have seen Taylor play this, and Wood multiple times. I have to say, there were occasions Wood strayed, but never garishly, in attempts to put his own brand on what is, in effect, supposed to be the RNR version of a jazz solo, an up to the minute SPONTANEAOUS solo sending out a feeling. But there were other nights that if you closed your eyes and opened your ears without preconcieved notion of ability, Wood came closer to what was immortalized in the studio then anything I have heard by anyone else at any other time, Mr. Taylor included.
Quote
The Greeki agree 100%,i saw the stones do cyhmk in hartford 2002 and ronnie channeled mick taylor's vibe in the begining of the solo and then went on hos own merry way with the solo. ronnie is not gonna RIPOFF mick taylor's solo note for note because that's beneath him. why? because ronnie wants to put his own stamp on the solo ,but he begins in the same place as mick taylor did .another example when the stones did SWAY in foxboro 2006 and giants stadium 2006. ronnie starts the solo in the same place as mick taylor did then incorporates his own stamp on the solo .ronnie is to aware of mick taylor's style and signature of the songs because that's his job to know this stuff .and i dont really think it would go over to well to be doing note for note RIPOFFS of mick taylor's guitar solosQuote
T&A
wood played taylor note-for-note? ha. there's at least major probs with that assertion....
so you dont think that the couple notes that ronnie plays in the start of the solo do not vibe taylor?Quote
T&AQuote
The Greeki agree 100%,i saw the stones do cyhmk in hartford 2002 and ronnie channeled mick taylor's vibe in the begining of the solo and then went on hos own merry way with the solo. ronnie is not gonna RIPOFF mick taylor's solo note for note because that's beneath him. why? because ronnie wants to put his own stamp on the solo ,but he begins in the same place as mick taylor did .another example when the stones did SWAY in foxboro 2006 and giants stadium 2006. ronnie starts the solo in the same place as mick taylor did then incorporates his own stamp on the solo .ronnie is to aware of mick taylor's style and signature of the songs because that's his job to know this stuff .and i dont really think it would go over to well to be doing note for note RIPOFFS of mick taylor's guitar solosQuote
T&A
wood played taylor note-for-note? ha. there's at least major probs with that assertion....
we obviously hear things very differently....no crime in that....
i totally understand now where you are coming from and have to agree .Quote
T&A
i think he is completely trying to ape taylor, yeah. that's the problem. he sounds ridiculous trying to...it would be like keith trying to cop a hendrix solo or something. why bother even trying.
Quote
T&A
i don't prefer one over the other - they are from completely two different schools of guitar playing - and i like both schools. therein lie the probs when woody tries to ape a taylor solo. 1) a solo isn't meant to be copied...it's supposed to be an extemporaneous statement. 2) woody really isn't a soloist and he couldn't copy a taylor solo to save his soul, so why he tries to (or why the band hierarchy wants him to) is beyond me....again, he's a fish out of water trying to tread taylor's waters....
Quote
T&A
can't watch that from this location - but if it's the dreaded roseland version, as I suspect - it's one of the lowest moment's in ron's time with the band, imo....