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liddas
The new T&A is a good subject.
Of course it is different from the original.
Good or bad?
Doxa sees it as the end of the Stones he loves. I like this version.
Matter of tastes.
What is sure is that you could bet your ass that if keith wanted to play the intro riff as on the original, he would do so.
I understand that from Doxa's point of view, this is even worse, because the new direction this song took is wanted by keith and not imposed by his alleged deficiencies!
As I said I like it. You don't need to compare it to the original. It's good music, and well performed by a great band, that is it.
What I don't get is why we bitch and moan because they never change the arrangements of their old stuff, and when they do so, we bich and moan because they are not like the original.
C
Yeah, you got it right what I tried to say (or whine...)
And you absolutely rised a good point about the 'dilemma' Keith and co are facing now. Well, its not their problem but ours, frankly..
I think I've been inconsistent sometimes - I do complain when the band and the arrengements are so stigmatized. But when there happens a radical change that is not good for me either...
Now, after a day afterwards I try to rethink the case. Namely, the impression I got from the CD - and very much cohers with my other impressions in during last few years - but it is so distinctive here, is the following: only Keith Richards is the force in the band who has encourage to try something different, He doesn't even try to act as he once did or copy himself. Sometimes the results are very impressive: I think the way Keith delivers "You Got The Silver" is absolotely stunning - but not as stunning as I first experienced live at El Ejido! That's something you could describe with the word 'maturation' or "growing up gracely" - words not most familiar in the context of The Stones. He really acts like a man of experience, who have 'seen it all, and done everything' and who doesn't really try to prove anything to anyone anymore and is satisfied with his recent condition, even happy about it. He is really leading the Stones into a new territory, to act like their true age is. Even though his abilities are limited, he does it wonderfully. Straight from one heart to other heart. Keith, you got the gold - the way Mick never does.
But then there are stuff like "Little T&A". Yeah, the tune is rearranged and reinterpreted. Keith sounds very 'grown up' - he sounds like an aged broken-voice drunken Las Vegas maestro, a'la Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin etc. - who enjoys his life with a drink glass in one hand, a cig on the other, and just freerides and enjoys the atmosphere and the admiration. The casual guitar in his hand is as substantial for him as it was once was for Elvis Presley. Looks good but... well, it looks good. Someone posted in LARS forum that he is playing the lead cigarette nowadays, and I think that nails the case.
Yeah, like liddas says, it is a matter of taste if one likes it or not. I hurray the change - that something Jagger hasn't done one inch since 1989 - but I am not really happy at all with the scenario that the next step of The Rolling Stones is going to be Frank Sinatra. Aren't there any other possibilities in sight? I am realist in a sense that Keith is not anymore capable to do things he did some ten to 40 years ago, the great dynamo and guitar nerve is now gone for good. Seemingly Keith is very conscious of that, and tries to compansate his lack of guitar skills (nad other things) with other means - and he is a great, charismatic performer, as SAL movie shows. Anyway, this is quite true of the others quite soon too, no matter what a kind of forever young duracell bunny Mick tries to prove himself to be. So are there other possibilities than to retire? Maybe there are. I think the great groove with Buddy Guy might give a hint what might be like if one wants to left the building with a dignity. One does need to take the Las Vegal model.
But let that to be seen. I still think that Keith songs are the most interesting performances what SAL CD provides (with C&K). All the Mick numbers - perhaps exluding "As Tears Go By" - are musically worthless - there is no any point of them to be realeased. Yeah, some of them are 'half-intersting' from a fan point of view - to hear so-and-so performances of the songs (trying to copy the original with Chuck Leavell lead, and Jagger miming singing) never released before in live album (is that really an argument to release music?), but otherwise 'new' versions of "Jumping Jack Flash", "Start Me Up", "Sympathy For The Devil", "Tumblin Dice" and "Brown Sugar" is a sign of such a creativity that makes one think of the stigmatized Soviet Union in its worst Breznev days. Any try to 'analysize' that what makes THIS particular version of "Jumping Jack Flash" significant (and thereby justified for its release) is a sign of total lack of common sense, judgment and imagination. It looks like that recent Stones did not barely borrow the idea of photograph revisionism from the Soviet Union times, they bloody hell seemed to adapt the whole ideaology of a mammuth that never moves forwards and never rethinks its strategy. Some people here remind the time of the 80's when still there were some people thinking that 'nothing wrong with the system; the criticism is just Western propaganda". I hope the collapse of The Stones, and neither their legacy, will not be like CCCR's...
- Doxa
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2008-04-25 11:41 by Doxa.