glimmer twin 81 Wrote:
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> bros and sistahs
> what kind of fukkin ghetto slang is that


THIS post will get you thrown out of here...mark my words.

well if this post gets me outta here
most people might get outta here

You don't think he's acting a little whacko? Not even a bit? Anyone???

who is he?

Read this post starting a few pages back, and take a guess. Hint: it's not either of us.

well sorry i just sniffed my dad and have been a bit confused

I agree wayyyyy overrated decent song, but its not that great.

This song is the Stones at their live best

I think it's underrated

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whoever doesn't like this better stick with their timberlake and spears.period. Also you never seen the Stones perform it then.

My two cents: I think it is a powerhouse of a song live. A one of a kind really and probably one of the most original songs they have done. I don't know of any other songs by other artists which are similar. Incredible lyrics as well. I think the studio version isn't quite what it could have been. I thought Keith's slide guitar work let the track down a bit but that is only in comparison to Monkey Man.

J.J.Flash Wrote:
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> whoever doesn't like this better stick with their
> timberlake and spears.period. Also you never seen
> the Stones perform it then.

Sorry; gonna have to say it...i never took to it. Hot Rocks was the first Stones tape i bought, and the song just didn't hit me 'square between the eyes' like everything else on the album...

Picked up Let it Bleed later, and the studio version still wasn't doing it for me; hey - i don't skip it on the CD player, i certainly don't hate it - but, and it's a genuine belief, it's nothing *special*. I do love the generic I IV V blues progression thing, I think you can't knock a good harp solo, and as a rule, that songs about serial killers should be good...

And for some reason, it still - almost 20 years after hearing it first, doesn't really set my motor running...

I heard 'em do it at the Twickenham Licks show in Sept 2003 and thought it was fine, but the fact that they did Salt of the Earth was a far bigger deal for me...

now, if you'll excuse me, i'm off to put on my bullet proof vest...

Why? Isn't this a very well-argumented post? No need to put on any vest I guess.

Jelle

While I love Rambler, I think it's pretty daft and childish for poeople to berate others for not liking a song as much as others feel they should.

I got similar blasting and chastising for feeling the same way about Shattered - people popping up giving li'l stonewalling jabs abou how I 'don't get it" I suck" and "Well then I've never seen the Stones, I'm not a fan" blah blah blah.

You those who brow-beat others for their own tastse and opinions, I invite you to whiff my gas, gas, gas.

Really Jaggerfan, how old actually are you?

I love the earliest versions of this song. Exciting, theatrical, fast-paced. However Midnight Rambler like many Stones classics is played very strangely these days. Still good, but slower and kind of wierd. I can't put my finger on it. Shattered, Sway, She Was Hot, Let's spend the night together and Under My Thumb are all lacking live these days.

JaggerFan Wrote:
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> While I love Rambler, I think it's pretty daft and
> childish for poeople to berate others for not
> liking a song as much as others feel they should.
>
> I got similar blasting and chastising for feeling
> the same way about Shattered - people popping up
> giving li'l stonewalling jabs abou how I 'don't
> get it" I suck" and "Well then I've never seen the
> Stones, I'm not a fan" blah blah blah.
>
> You those who brow-beat others for their own
> tastse and opinions, I invite you to whiff my gas,
> gas, gas.


I can't agree Jaggerfan, just read the quotes early in this thread, and see who's using what language to react to certain posts. The first nasty bites come from...? (Not from you, don't worry)

... they come from the poster. You're right. A flaming thread right off the bat. It's one thing to go against the grain and be 'challenging'. It's another to be a li'l turd.

I've yet to see "against the grain and be 'challenging"??

And I've yet to see any post from you that aren't snarky, sarcastic or negating. You must be real fun to party with, albert, or ablett or whatever.

"He's the one, who likes all our pretty songs,
& he likes to sing along & he likes to shoot his gun,
but he don't know what it means.."
-Kurt Cobain

if MR is overrated, then all other Stones music is overrated too! if you personally like MR or not is different thing.

Mick's singing is overrated. Damn he ruins it!

MR is overrated because it is a cheesy song
try playin it on a guitar and you will see you can play
it within 20 mins
again
even brown sugar is way more tricky to play

Are you saying that the quality of a song is measured by the difficulty of the guitar part?

A famous quote about blues (not exact becuase I'm not going to search for it):

The blues can be found in the notes that are not played.

Common knowledge about Keith: He's no virtuoso in the sense of Page/Kooymans/Taylor/many famous others, that play a zillion notes on bizarre scales in ten seconds, but there are very few out there that can build a sound, a groove, a feeling like he does in his playing.

So, if you can play Midnight Rambler in 20 minutes of practice: please get your @ss over at the local studio and record company because you've got a great carreer ahead of you.

Jelle

Glimmertwin81 and a poster named after Mick/Steven Tyler (as if they were in the same league) shouldn't be allowed to post on a Midnight Rambler thread.

oh, "even Brown Sugar" is trickier to play...so if trickiness is the main criteria if a song is overrated or not I guess many Stones songs are overrated in glimmer twin 81s opinion. Ive mentioned it earlier in this thread, one may like or dislike certain songs but of one claims MR is overrated because it basically uses simple chords then much of the Stones music is overrated too. Tomorrow Never Knows by Beatles uses exactly one chord! I mean what bullshit is this to state a song is overrated by the "trickiness" criteria! even if a songs uses simple chord structures its the way it is played. its genius to transform a couple of simple chords into a song!

but glimmer twin 81 is not into serious discussion, he just wants to stir up a fight by stating bullshit in order to offend many fans.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-04-06 14:21 by alimente.

alimente it is pretty arrogant to think telling MR is
overrating is a way to offend fans
it is even not a way to offend the band
but why should it be a way to offend you?????
have you written it?
have you ever played it?
you are a fan and not mick or keith
so relax baby

and btw for sure a song has to be tricky to be a great tune
MR is a simple and useless song imo and i think it is overrated
and it is so bad when fans think MR is THE stones song
in 100 years noone will remember MR but some might remember start me up

glimmer twin 81 Wrote:
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> and btw for sure a song has to be tricky to be a
> great tune



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glimmer twin 81 Wrote:
> and btw for sure a song has to be tricky to be a
> great tune

so what we've learned from this thread is that your definition of a great song is that it has to be:

1) a song that everybody knows and which sells a lot of copies

and

2) a song thats hard to play