no GAZZA it is not a definition of a great song
but a song that is that much rated like MR
should be will known and hard to play
a cheesy and easy played song can not be the stones'
greatest song

to everybody who claims that rambler is easy to play: record YOUR version of it and post it here (it's not difficult - it does not have to be perfect sounding - a few bars are ok) - it's been a bad day: I need a good laugh!

C

glimmer twin 81 Wrote:
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> no GAZZA it is not a definition of a great song
> but a song that is that much rated like MR
> should be will known and hard to play
> a cheesy and easy played song can not be the
> stones'
> greatest song


glimmer twin 81 Wrote:
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> and btw for sure a song has to be tricky to be a
> great tune

Make up your mind for Christ sake.

Whats this fascination that if a song is easy to PLAY, it cant be great?

The Stones are basically a blues/ R&B based band. It's not Mozart, we're talking about here.

Your absurd definition of what makes a song great basically rules out most of their catalogue (and that of the vast majority of popular music) and ignores anything to do with lyrics/vocal performance and countless other things.

Isnt there a Steve Vai board you could be wasting time on instead with this pretentious twaddle?

Gazza when this thread is annoying you so much
stop posting here and use other threads
you are not the master of iorr
are you?

glimmer twin 81 Wrote:
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> Gazza when this thread is annoying you so much
> stop posting here and use other threads
> you are not the master of iorr
> are you?


Glimmer: stop waisting your time and let us have your sample of Rambler!

C

glimmer twin 81 Wrote:
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> Gazza when this thread is annoying you so much
> stop posting here and use other threads

make me

> you are not the master of iorr
> are you?

why - are you? You started the thread and now you cant handle people disagreeing with you so youre telling them not to post in it?

You've an elevated view of your own ability to bug me, if you think I'm remotely irritated.

The thread isnt annoying me in the slightest, but it sure as hell seems to have got YOU worked up!!

Seriously, how did you become a Stones fan? Did you enter a contest on the back of a cornflakes packet or something?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2007-04-06 16:02 by Gazza.

I like MR..........a lot........

Rolling Stones Tribute

Play Rolling Stones

....which one's that again?

glimmer twin 81 Wrote:
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> no GAZZA it is not a definition of a great song
> but a song that is that much rated like MR
> should be will known and hard to play
> a cheesy and easy played song can not be the
> stones'
> greatest song

Dude, you keep re-proving your ignorance with each successive post.

LOL Gazza...."make me"

sic em

My version is already posted in the "IORR CD" thread in Hot Stuff.

well gazza
i became a stones fan when i a was a little child
steel wheels tour

....steel wheels??? they were basically done by that time.............

glimmer twin 81 Wrote:
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> alimente it is pretty arrogant to think telling MR
> is
> overrating is a way to offend fans
> it is even not a way to offend the band
> but why should it be a way to offend you?????
> have you written it?
> have you ever played it?
> you are a fan and not mick or keith
> so relax baby
>
> and btw for sure a song has to be tricky to be a
> great tune
> MR is a simple and useless song imo and i think it
> is overrated
> and it is so bad when fans think MR is THE stones
> song
> in 100 years noone will remember MR but some might
> remember start me up


hey baby, I am actually relaxing, but not in a way like you, obviously wanking full of joy that you actually managed to start a lenghty thread with a non-topic and bullshit arguments. but I read that you became a fan when you were a child (were?), with Steel Wheels. so you are a younger guy and it is forgiven that you dont know much about essence of Stones.

besides that, all you want to do is bring people up on their feet and make em angry because you know that MR is a tremendously popular tune amongs Stones fans. you started this thread not because you really think MR is mediocre, but purely for the reason to start a fight. your trickiness argument reveals everything, youre not into serious discussions about Stones music, you just try to get some perverse fun out of making people angry and start a fight. but all hope is not lost, you can be helped, there are actually doctors for your problems just check the phonebook under 'P' and then 'Psychologists'.

I think this thread has gone on far too long, the whole thing is rubbish, everyone knows how good MR is and what an idiot Glimmer is so why are we all bothering.

I think this thread should die now!!

Thought is was a good studio track when I was young. I wasn't too huge on it cos I heard it firstly on Rolled Gold which was (and still is) jam packed with one gem after another - and it was my first album of the Stones so needless to say the competition on that double album for best song was huge.

Then I bought Ya Yas a couple of years later and the song blew my 14 year old @#$%& mind!

Live it is a masterpiece. Even studio it is still great - just not as hooky or exciting to listen to for me.

GS live however since VL tour has been a bore on auto pilot if you ask me. Studio of course it's one of the most beautifully presented haunting pieces ever recorded.

kyle m

Have you ever lent somebody $20 and never seen them again? It was probably worth it.

Why dont we all agree that MR is piece of shit.
That could calm the kid down.
Yeah glimmer boy, whathever you say.

Glimmer Twin 81. You became a Stones fan when you were a little child? You still are! MR intro at a live concert - just the best. The lead up, the lead in, the lead out. Glimmer boy, get on it!

i guess i would not like MR more if i were 50 now
my age has nothing to do with it

i didnt know iorr has also an age police
where you are only allowed to have an opinion when you wet your
pants at night cause of incontinence

glimmer twin 81 Wrote:
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> well gazza
> i became a stones fan when i a was a little child
> steel wheels tour


thats not what I asked you. I asked you HOW you became a Stones fan (not "WHEN"), because you seem to have absolutely no grasp of what the band's music is about.

There are plenty of young fans who "get it". You clearly dont.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-04-07 14:29 by Gazza.

well gazza
i became a stones fan at a stones show where MR was not in the setlist

Rambler is in fact t h e Stones song. No one knows the
Stones if he doesn´t know that song. And no one can like
the Stones if he can´t get into that song. The original LIB version is
just a sketch. Like most songs of the band it inflates in a
liveshow, played differently every time! They improvise,
slowing it down, speeding it up, harmonica, guitars, mean
lyrics and a really bad attitude...there is not even one
song by any other band that has all that. And there is NO version
of MR that is the same compared to another version.
That´s what R&R and the Stones are about!

To end this: As long as they can deliver this song, they can
tour and play live!

glimmer twin 81 Wrote:
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> well gazza
> i became a stones fan at a stones show where MR
> was not in the setlist



on the Steel Wheels tour? It was played pretty much every night.

So all the other 300 songs in their catalogue were deemed substandard because they werent played at this show?

Your lack of grasp of the essence of the band's music isnt just confined to not 'getting' one particular song



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-04-07 14:34 by Gazza.

Gazza Wrote:
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> glimmer twin 81 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > well gazza
> > i became a stones fan at a stones show where MR
> > was not in the setlist
>
>
>
> on the Steel Wheels tour? It was played pretty
> much every night.
>


Addition: MR was the only song in that setlist where the
new "sound" (2 keyboards, horns, bv´s) did not ruin it
and where the Stones were just the Stones.

it is more than stupid to say you can only
be a stones fan if you like MR

that is kinda bullshit

Only in your incontinent opinion! Of course you can be a Stones fan. Just not a very educated one. )

yeah right hamish
liking MR makes you very much educated
what is this a phd MR ?? Dr. MR? Prof. MR ??

Is there already someone who posted their attempt at MR? If not, may I ask to play the few bars around the change in tempo (accelaration) towards the last part of the song? The guitar part that goes from the signature motive to the riffing?

I'm probably one of the few fans that actually like the studio version the best. It's not a song in the conventional pop sense with a typical verse, chorus, verse etc. which maybe why its appeal may be lost on a minority of fans and yet its blues based sound for me is virtually as good as anything the Stones have ever recorded. In many ways despite its blues traits it isn't a typical Stones song because of the intricaces of the tempo but it's those changes which elevate the song to being one of the most consistently well played live songs in their catalogue.

Midnight Rambler is really one of a kind in the Stones catalogue so the Stones fans who don't like it have plenty of other songs and styles to justify their reasons for being Stones fans.

Great rocker, specially on stadium shows