Good thing Keith discovered dentistry!

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Keith and family: look at the faces.


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THere's some cool pics there, Johnny,
the first one is from Switzerland, rehearsals 72

In the black n white photo of the guitars and amps, there is a bunny rabbit on the left, but it does not appear to have any pancakes on its head. Why not?

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What's your favourite flavour?...........Cherry Red!!

>> Are there any band photos from these other sessions in 1970 and at Sunset Sound in 72? <<


do you mean literally photos of the whole band? Jim Marshall of course took a bunch of well-known photos
of the Glimmer Twins and of Keith at Sunset Sound in 72 - i don't know about the whole band, though ...

Great stuff, thanx all!

with sssoul Wrote:
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> >> Are there any band photos from these other
> sessions in 1970 and at Sunset Sound in 72? <<
>
>
> do you mean literally photos of the whole band?

Yup! Make that, any of the others recording?





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theanchorman Wrote:
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> Mathijs Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The entire story of how the Stones recorded
> Exile
> > in Keith's basement is more myth than truth.
> > There's just seven tracks of wich only the
> backing
> > tracks (drums, maybe some rythm guitar, maybe
> some
> > bass) were recorded at Nellcote:
> >
> > Rip this Joint, Shake Your Hips, Casino Boogie,
> > Happy, I Just Wanna See His Face, Turd on the
> Run
> > and Ventilator Blues.
> >
> > Rocks Off, Torn and Frayed, Loving Cup and Soul
> > Survivor were recorded completeley in LA,
> spring
> > 1972.
> >
> > All other tracks were recorded at Stargroves
> and
> > Olympic Sound throughout 1970, and overdubs
> were
> > added in LA, spring 1972. Overdubs means all
> > keyboards, most guitars, all brass, most bass,
> all
> > lead vocals, all backing vocals. All in all I
> > guess about 20% is recorded at Nellcote.
> >
> > Nellcote is an important place as it did set
> the
> > mood for the entire album. In this way, Exile
> can
> > be seen as a concept album, showing the darker,
> > seedy side of Americana music mixed with
> English
> > Rock&Roll drugs royalty.
> >
> > Mathijs
>
>
> No offense, but it has been widley discussed by
> Keith, Andy Johns, etc, that Rocks Off & Soul
> Survivor were absolutley recorded at Nellcote -
> among others you said that weren't..
>
> Also - songs like Sweet Black Angel, Tumbling
> Dice, Sweet Virginia, etc were all worked on while
> at Nellcote...
>
> Christ - Andy Johns has mentioned having 25 hours
> of Nellcote tape on Tumbling Dice alone...


Yeah ... Mathijs, don't be so damn quick and assured with your "facts" all the time. Few things are definite in a subject like this.

I'm not claiming to have the truth either, but I definitely think theanchorman is correct in his points.

Also, Loving Cup (as well as Shine A Light and a few more) were not only recorded in LA '72, they were done as early as '69-70.

Those are some amazing pictures--really great thanks for posting.

I am pretty sure the infamous story of Keith waking up Andy Johns at 5:00 in the morning to record a guitar part was about Rocks Off.

LieB Wrote:
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> theanchorman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Mathijs Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The entire story of how the Stones recorded
> > Exile
> > > in Keith's basement is more myth than truth.
> > > There's just seven tracks of wich only the
> > backing
> > > tracks (drums, maybe some rythm guitar, maybe
> > some
> > > bass) were recorded at Nellcote:
> > >
> > > Rip this Joint, Shake Your Hips, Casino
> Boogie,
> > > Happy, I Just Wanna See His Face, Turd on the
> > Run
> > > and Ventilator Blues.
> > >
> > > Rocks Off, Torn and Frayed, Loving Cup and
> Soul
> > > Survivor were recorded completeley in LA,
> > spring
> > > 1972.
> > >
> > > All other tracks were recorded at Stargroves
> > and
> > > Olympic Sound throughout 1970, and overdubs
> > were
> > > added in LA, spring 1972. Overdubs means all
> > > keyboards, most guitars, all brass, most
> bass,
> > all
> > > lead vocals, all backing vocals. All in all I
> > > guess about 20% is recorded at Nellcote.
> > >
> > > Nellcote is an important place as it did set
> > the
> > > mood for the entire album. In this way, Exile
> > can
> > > be seen as a concept album, showing the
> darker,
> > > seedy side of Americana music mixed with
> > English
> > > Rock&Roll drugs royalty.
> > >
> > > Mathijs
> >
> >
> > No offense, but it has been widley discussed by
> > Keith, Andy Johns, etc, that Rocks Off & Soul
> > Survivor were absolutley recorded at Nellcote -
> > among others you said that weren't..
> >
> > Also - songs like Sweet Black Angel, Tumbling
> > Dice, Sweet Virginia, etc were all worked on
> while
> > at Nellcote...
> >
> > Christ - Andy Johns has mentioned having 25
> hours
> > of Nellcote tape on Tumbling Dice alone...
>
>
> Yeah ... Mathijs, don't be so damn quick and
> assured with your "facts" all the time. Few things
> are definite in a subject like this.
>
> I'm not claiming to have the truth either, but I
> definitely think theanchorman is correct in his
> points.
>
> Also, Loving Cup (as well as Shine A Light and a
> few more) were not only recorded in LA '72, they
> were done as early as '69-70.

Loving Cup was worked on and recorded earlier (even as far back as 1969), but the version that appears on the album was re-recorded in LA.

Shine a Light was recorded at Stargroves, overdubs done in LA.

Tumbling Dice was started at Olympics London and finished in LA.

Soul Survivor was started at Nellcote, but the demo was totally re-recorded in LA due to sound problems in the recordings.

Rocks Off is harder to tell: according to Jimmy Miller it was started in Nellcote, but completely rerecorded in LA, but according to Andy Johns the drums and guitar were done at Nellcote.

Most of this information comes from Jimmy Miller and Andy Johns, but you can (most of the time) also hear it in the recording: the drums recorded at Nellcote sound different to the drums recorded in Olympics and LA. The Nellcote drums have a boxy, airy demo-style sound to it, while all other drums have this punch and directness. Check the drums on Ventilator Blues and Happy to Loving Cup and Tumbling Dice, the differences are clear.

Mathijs

Also maybe due to Jimmy Miller playing the drums on Happy and I think he plays drums on the latter part of Tumbling Dice.

How about some relevant quotes from Mr Miller and Johns?

What is this about Jimmy Miller playing drum son part of TD? This si the first I heard about that.

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

> Loving Cup was worked on and recorded earlier
> (even as far back as 1969), but the version that
> appears on the album was re-recorded in LA.
>
> Shine a Light was recorded at Stargroves, overdubs
> done in LA.
>
> Tumbling Dice was started at Olympics London and
> finished in LA.
>
> Soul Survivor was started at Nellcote, but the
> demo was totally re-recorded in LA due to sound
> problems in the recordings.
>
> Rocks Off is harder to tell: according to Jimmy
> Miller it was started in Nellcote, but completely
> rerecorded in LA, but according to Andy Johns the
> drums and guitar were done at Nellcote.
>
> Most of this information comes from Jimmy Miller
> and Andy Johns, but you can (most of the time)
> also hear it in the recording: the drums recorded
> at Nellcote sound different to the drums recorded
> in Olympics and LA. The Nellcote drums have a
> boxy, airy demo-style sound to it, while all other
> drums have this punch and directness. Check the
> drums on Ventilator Blues and Happy to Loving Cup
> and Tumbling Dice, the differences are clear.
>
> Mathijs

Interesting information. It does sound reasonable. I've never thought about the drums sounding different, but it has crossed my mind that most of Exile sounds too clear to be coming from Nellcote. Some stuff, like Happy and I Just Wanna See His Face are obvious Nellcote jams, but like you said, the directness and punch owes a lot to Olympic and LA. I'd say Jagger's contributions to this album are a bit underrated even though most of us geeks know he kind of "took control" once they got to LA. It's also very likely, which has been said, that many of the tracks were worked on at Nellcote but few of those parts remain (I'd say Tumbling Dice could be such a case).

To your credit, Mathijs, I gotta admit that a well-trained musician's/producer's ear can often be a much better resource than loose -- sometimes contradicting -- quotes from other people.

*Classic* ROCK - No 103 - March 2007



ROCKMAN

Did Keith use alot of open G tuned guitars on the album?

Idiot Wind Wrote:
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> What the @#$%& did they do to the rabbit!

Ask the Hungarians what rabbits are good for!

This is the the thread of the millenium; still loadin......

From Ahmet Ertegun - The Godfather by Andria Lisle MOJO 161 April 2007



ROCKMAN

can we start posting some new exile pictures again? x

thats really somethin special!never have saw those photos...Thnx

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> Rockman, those pics are awesome. There are several
> that I'd never seen before. Thanks!
>
> All photos courtesy of Dominique Tarle:
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Just wonderful stuff!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank ya millions for posting!

Just show this thread and spend the last hour reading it and watching the pictures listening to Exile WOW!!!
Had a great time!!! thank you all for posting these precious material! Specially Rockman ! You're the man mate! Please post as much as you can more!
>Why worry about precision when you're master of feel?<
That's the phrase that I think includes the whole meaning of this great album and Stone's music in general! That's Rock n' Roll created by the best band in the world!!

50 Greatest Rolling Stones Songs - MOJO 166 September 2007.........



ROCKMAN

50 Greatest Rolling Stones Songs - MOJO 166 September 2007.........



ROCKMAN

50 Greatest Rolling Stones Songs - MOJO 166 September 2007.........



ROCKMAN

The Mojo top 50 omitted Rocks Off - how can this happen?

What a FANTASTIC post! Love the pictures and all the notes.