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Spud
I'm hoping for an Abbey Road vinyl remaster at some point ...from a nice flat digital transfer.
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peoplewitheyes
Could someone explain why anyone would want to buy so many editions of the same album? I don't mean with this live cd, but people buying up to a dozen versions of the same original HD album. It's like a mania or an obsession and I just can't understand it. Can't these consumers see they're being played like a violin?
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HD Special Live Edition sold out in CD Japan
So whats the bonus on the Japanese Hack Rack ????
Is it still just Living In a Ghost Town on the Hack disc ????
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Billboard magazine and stones website indicate it is a January 2024 release and other sites like Amazon UK say December 15. I have not found a listing with Amazon USA yet
Universal is milking the album where the audience is buying the album: UK and Europe.
In the US is all about touring, the album is almost out of the Top 200 so all the promotion is in the UK, radio airplay for Mess It Up, bonus live version out on the week before Christamas, etc.
Sales wise. Billboard determines all!!!
No telling with streaming (at the moment?).
What a mess! Streaming has turned the music world upside down, compared to the past, in regard to what is a success.
The whole shitshow about Spotify is alarming - there are others! Why is Spotify so big when they pay so little? Is is just the access? That labels and bands have taken Spotify in? The promotion?
What's the old standard - be leery of those that advertise a lot? Yet so many artists/bands are promoting Spotify... while hardly getting paid!
THANKS FOR THE EXPOSURE! they look like, even though they chose to participate, when Tidal offers much better quality.
Obviously The Rolling Stones are making more than $0.004 cents per stream (in the US) per UME. As they should. But UME is making that, not the Stones.
The record deal the Stones have with UME (UMe) dictates aspects. UME is probably mostly interested in the quick nickel than the long dime when it comes to Stones reissues, deluxe or not.
Way more on the new album. HACKNEY DIAMONDS should outsell any reissue since 2010 probably.
What a weird business, a catalogue act.
"Let's find a way to convince people that bought SOME GIRLS and TATTOO YOU to buy HACKNEY DIAMONDS."
The (actually not) strange thing is... it's as good as those two albums and better since anything post-1981.
The whole Christmas thing, though... I get the possible bump in sales because "Oh they need to have this as an Xmas gift" mentality but it's not like 2 million people will do that yet alone 20 million or maybe even 20,000.
Yet BLUE AND LONESOME was revealing.
Whatever.
Streaming has made sales flaccid in regard to "relevance", which, if you look at history, "relevance" with rock, hard rock, rock'n'roll, ended in 1997 when Soundgarden broke up.
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peoplewitheyes
Could someone explain why anyone would want to buy so many editions of the same album? I don't mean with this live cd, but people buying up to a dozen versions of the same original HD album. It's like a mania or an obsession and I just can't understand it. Can't these consumers see they're being played like a violin?
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peoplewitheyes
Could someone explain why anyone would want to buy so many editions of the same album? I don't mean with this live cd, but people buying up to a dozen versions of the same original HD album. It's like a mania or an obsession and I just can't understand it. Can't these consumers see they're being played like a violin?
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peoplewitheyes
Could someone explain why anyone would want to buy so many editions of the same album? I don't mean with this live cd, but people buying up to a dozen versions of the same original HD album. It's like a mania or an obsession and I just can't understand it. Can't these consumers see they're being played like a violin?
Being played like an entire orchestra my friend, not just a violin! Good luck to them if they want to shell out vast amounts of money for coloured vinyl, for CDs with the same tracks in a different order, or with a different picture on the front. Or whatever other presentational variations the band - or more likely, the suits - dream up so they can sell the same material over and over and over and over...
I don't get it myself. But I want to emphasise my respect for anyone seeing this in an entirely different way to me. I'm afraid I'm just one of those boring people who buys ONE copy of an album. I may also buy any singles released from it, but only if these differ significantly from the version on the album I already own. I must also say that I am horrified that The Stones now only release one track singles. No extras at all. No 'b sides' - as they used to be called when I was a boy. No remixes. Diddly squat!
It all feels exploitive to me. Very exploitive. But, as I've been saying, clearly many others don't.
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Physical singles would be the perfect opportunity to let some outtakes from 1982 onwards out
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Physical singles would be the perfect opportunity to let some outtakes from 1982 onwards out
Similar to the 'Miss You (Remix)' on the 'Don't Stop' CD-Single.
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peoplewitheyes
Could someone explain why anyone would want to buy so many editions of the same album? I don't mean with this live cd, but people buying up to a dozen versions of the same original HD album. It's like a mania or an obsession and I just can't understand it. Can't these consumers see they're being played like a violin?
Being played like an entire orchestra my friend, not just a violin! Good luck to them if they want to shell out vast amounts of money for coloured vinyl, for CDs with the same tracks in a different order, or with a different picture on the front. Or whatever other presentational variations the band - or more likely, the suits - dream up so they can sell the same material over and over and over and over...
I don't get it myself. But I want to emphasise my respect for anyone seeing this in an entirely different way to me. I'm afraid I'm just one of those boring people who buys ONE copy of an album. I may also buy any singles released from it, but only if these differ significantly from the version on the album I already own. I must also say that I am horrified that The Stones now only release one track singles. No extras at all. No 'b sides' - as they used to be called when I was a boy. No remixes. Diddly squat!
It all feels exploitive to me. Very exploitive. But, as I've been saying, clearly many others don't.
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peoplewitheyes
Could someone explain why anyone would want to buy so many editions of the same album? I don't mean with this live cd, but people buying up to a dozen versions of the same original HD album.
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peoplewitheyes
Could someone explain why anyone would want to buy so many editions of the same album? I don't mean with this live cd, but people buying up to a dozen versions of the same original HD album. It's like a mania or an obsession and I just can't understand it. Can't these consumers see they're being played like a violin?
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peoplewitheyes
Could someone explain why anyone would want to buy so many editions of the same album? I don't mean with this live cd, but people buying up to a dozen versions of the same original HD album. It's like a mania or an obsession and I just can't understand it. Can't these consumers see they're being played like a violin?
I love colored vinyl. Though really for me the definitive version to own of HD is the Paul Smith one. Really wish I’d bought 2 of that one so I could open one. Best damn cover.
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Spud
I'm hoping for an Abbey Road vinyl remaster at some point ...from a nice flat digital transfer.
Here's a comparison of 'Hackney Diamonds' - Digital vs Vinyl - [MagicVinylDigital.net] .
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Just in time for Xmas, sales bump. Do I purchase it again - I have the Japanese digipack version, the standard jewel case, the cassette, and the CD/Bluray box. A fifth copy? Likely will, hard to say no - extra CD, amended booklet.
There'll be another version next year maybe with DVD, the remixes..etc. Will probably purchase that too lol
Thankfully the album is great, 6 or so weeks' in and the charm of it still as potent as that first listening.
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marquess
Where can I find the Cassette?
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georgelicks
Hackney Diamond has the best performance in the UK chart for a studio album since Sticky Fingers.
UK chart run for HD after 6 weeks:
1-3-4-8-4-3
And Studio albums since 1971:
Sticky Fingers
*1*-1-1-1-2-2
Exile On Main Street
*1*-3-4-5-6-11
Goats Head Soup
*1*-1-2-2-5-6
It's Only Rock'n Roll
5-*2*-5-13-14-21
Black And Blue
4-*2*-2-6-6-6
Some Girls
30-*2*-4-4-3-4
Emotional Rescue
*1*-1-2-2-3-5
Tattoo You
*2*-2-3-6-10-10
Undercover
*3*-5-15-26-33-39
Dirty Work
*4*-8-14-29-34-59
Steel Wheels
*2*-6-13-19-28-43
Voodoo Lounge
*1*-2-4-4-6-12
Bridges To Babylon
*6*-12-27-38-62-69
A Bigger Bang
*2*-13-32-61-92-out
Blue & Lonesome
*1*-2-4-5-5-10
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This in particular. At least, the japanese SSOH CD-single has the short version as a bonus track! Apart from that, absolutely "nil". Physical singles would be the perfect opportunity to let some outtakes from 1982 onwards out - from albums that probably will never see any deluxe/expanded editions anyway, like For Your Precious Love, Still In Love, Giving It up and the like. Looks like they keep everything that's usable for future exploitation...
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peoplewitheyes
Could someone explain why anyone would want to buy so many editions of the same album? I don't mean with this live cd, but people buying up to a dozen versions of the same original HD album. It's like a mania or an obsession and I just can't understand it. Can't these consumers see they're being played like a violin?
I love colored vinyl. Though really for me the definitive version to own of HD is the Paul Smith one. Really wish I’d bought 2 of that one so I could open one. Best damn cover.
I think the answer to the question is some people have disposable income and they have a hobby. They choose to collect, kind of like stamps or coins.
You could a similar question "why would someone spend a thousand dollars for a group of 80 year olds playing music for 2 hours?"
I could suggest "consumers are being played like several violins"...but it's not my place to other people do with their money.
Just because things don't fit your narrative doesn't mean they don't make sense for other people.
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