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Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: September 26, 2023 01:17

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New single! It's nice to have Stevie and Lady Gaga joining on a Rolling Stones song.

yes it is

stevie was the rumored guest that i was most excited about all along

can't wait!grinning smiley

Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: harlem shuffle ()
Date: September 26, 2023 01:20

Faithful has changes her story so many times about Jagger and other things so many times,makes me wonder if she has been senile

Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: September 26, 2023 01:20

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andrew watt on bass?confused smileysad smiley

was hoping for keith again

Amazing how some great news is coming up and some people immediately find something to be negative about.

Gotta hear Andrew's bass playing first before you can dislike it.

didn't mean to sound to negative sorry

just really liked keith's bass playing on angry and was hoping to hear more

i'm sure andrew is a more then a competent bass player and i'm really looking forward to the single

i assure you i'm not a member of the doom and gloom brigade here on iorr

i'm very excited for this album and the next!

in my opinion they haven't made a bad album yet and i don't think they'll start now

All good, don't worry! smiling smiley Also liked Keith's bass playing on Angry and looking forward to hear the other tracks he plays bass on.

As for "Sweet Sounds of Heaven" - we know from the recent interview with Stevie Wonder that they tracked the basic instrument tracks live playing together in one room. That means if Keith was playing guitar someone else had to play bass - and it seems it was Andrew in this case.

right makes sense

i didn't put that together

Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: Putty ()
Date: September 26, 2023 01:31

Just heard the snippet for Sweet sounds of heaven on IG

Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: Deathgod ()
Date: September 26, 2023 01:36

The Gaga track is so tasty
Can’t wait for some Ron and Keef licks and fills over this

Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: September 26, 2023 02:16

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Deathgod
The Gaga track is so tasty
Can’t wait for some Ron and Keef licks and fills over this

"play me somethin' Stevie"..
Sounds Fantastic!!

Been thinking it might difficult for this song to live up to the hype, but that snippet has me convinced it will.. can't wait for the other 7:06 minutes.
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Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: doitywoik ()
Date: September 26, 2023 02:51

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Jackda
Yes, who knows ? Maybe he loves him so much that he wants to help him to write really good music ?

Maybe one day Mick will love Keith so much that he wants to help him to write really good lyrics? spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: mariano ()
Date: September 26, 2023 04:59

smoking smiley

Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: September 26, 2023 06:33

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keefriffhards
GasLightStreet, you are putting me in a box with your assumptions, i love evey album the Stones have made, stuff on Black & Blue , Some Girls , ER, Tattoo You, Undercover, Steel Wheels even Dirty Work and Voodoo Lounge that i love listening to, and the list goes on, but no way are those albums as good as that magical era of creativity from the late 60's early 70s, ( regardless of EOMS poor sales it's still their best album to my ears) but what band has ever achieved that level of genius for a longer period, it just doesn't happen unless your name is Bob Dylan.
So sorry for my outburst, its all good really isn't it with the new album coming out, it's exciting regardless of who features more or who's songs are better, it's Mick and Keith and they're still doing it aren't they, I'm taking a time out from here to listen to the album without people from here ruining it.

It's just how you come across quite often. I've read before that you like whatever but sometimes it's difficult to believe it and, well, sometimes it's extremely difficult to believe it. Mick Jagger came up with Sympathy and Brown Sugar and loads of others. Keith came up with Mr D, If You Can't Rock Me, Shattered, She's So Cold, Start Me Up... and loads of others.

It's all good. It's all great. It doesn't matter who did what.

Could something be better? Probably not. Well, there's a flip side to that - think Mick would've played the riff to Brown Sugar the way we know it?

No.

Think Taylor could've played the intro to Knocking with the same cadence as Keith?

No.

Think Keith could've played Taylor's 1969 Sympathy solo better than Taylor?

No. In fact, we know why - it's on the live album.

Imagine if Keith hadn't've done Coming Down Again - there'd be no Sleep Tonight because he totally ripped himself off, note for note, to get that song.

Then there's Mick 'I Had A Great Teacher' Jagger reversing Start Me Up and inverting Brown Sugar for Sad Sad Sad.

However.

Of course nothing post-1972 "stands up" but that's still a dismissive as to how good SOME GIRLS and TATTOO YOU are, especially. But that's so confined. Why regulate like that when there are great tunes that aren't from 68-72?

But, see, as much as I love the 1969-74 era of

Turd On The Run, Sweet Virginia, 100 Years Ago, Can't You Hear Me Knocking, All Down The Line, I Got The Blues, Winter, Loving Cup, Tops, I Ain't Signifying, Criss Cross, Monkey Man, Dancing With Mr D, Ventilator, Bitch, Coming Down Again, Plundered, Gimme Shelter, Through The Lonely Nights, Sway, Short And Curlies, Hide Your Love, Rocks Off, Midnight Rambler, Sister Morphine, Till The Next Goodbye, Heartbreaker, Soul Survior, Dance Little Sister, Casino Boogie, You Got The Silver, Jiving Sister Fanny, Pass The Wine, Fingerprint File, Tumbling Dice, Let It Bleed, Star Star, Can You Hear The Music, Stop Breaking Down, Brown Sugar, If You Really Want to Be My Friend, Gimme Shelter, Time Waits For No One and Moonlight Mile

I also love the 1976-83 era of

Send It To Me, Tie You Up, ER, Shattered, Worried About You, Neighbours, Melody, She Was Hot, Lies, Crazy Mama, Think I'm Going Mad, Little T&A, Summer Romance, Hang Fire, Pretty Beat Up, Fiji Jim, Undercover Of The Night, She's So Cold, Heaven, Some Girls, All The Way Down, Memory Motel, Everything Is Turning To Gold, Do You Think I Really Care, Dance, Hey Negrita, Slave, Miss You, If I Was A Dancer, No Spare Parts, Black Limo, All About You, When The Whip Comes Down, Too Much Blood, It's A Lie, Start Me Up, Hot Stuff, It Must Be Hell, Miss You, Down In The Hole, Beast Of Burden and Feel On Baby.

To my ears, all of those tunes are just as important to each other outside of their context. Just those two eras I listed - a lot of bands and artists would kill to have either one or both of those bodies of work as their career. 5 of the Taylor era and 5 of the Ronnie era.

If you read those all you'll notice I left some out (I wish I could include Misty Roads and Munich, a few other unreleased but sticking to official) - yet alone didn't include 1968 or what excellent tunes they did in 67 and 66, as well as 1989, 94 and 97 (and about 5 from 2005).

For me, both of those eras are incredible. Fortunately they're different, even within themselves, yet consistent. But just look at that - it's amazing. That's A LOT of music. And it's all excellent, regardless of what critics and sales say.

I could live without anything else in those if necessary.

Fortunately I dig on both sides. Living In A Ghost Town is excellent and HACKNEY will just add to the Stones' cauldron of boiling, swirling rock'n'roll to listen to just as much so as it's fun to crank up Come On, Route 66, Mona, I Wanna Be Your Man, Miss Amanda Jones, Under My Thumb, She Said Yeah, 2000 Light Years, Jumpin' Jack Flash and What To Do from the Brian Jones era... among loads of others.

Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Date: September 26, 2023 08:10

Made me think about Tops.

Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: gcarneiro ()
Date: September 26, 2023 08:21

I might have misread it but is Ronnie not a part of Sweet Sounds of Heaven? He's not been listed among the players, so that's got me confused. He's spoken so highly of it, I thought he'd be all in.

By the way, I kinda wish Gaga's and Paul's, heck, even Elton's, social media accounts were more embracing of this huge collab thing and, you know, that they started promoting it. Sadly, it's been radio silence for the most part. Not really a complaint, just an observation.

Anyway, really excited for this one to drop. Reading the lyrics got me emotional. Hackney Diamonds. Crazy how these Stones are still rolling... October 20th can't come soon enough.

It's a gas, gas, gas!

Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: September 26, 2023 09:09

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gcarneiro
I might have misread it but is Ronnie not a part of Sweet Sounds of Heaven? He's not been listed among the players, so that's got me confused. He's spoken so highly of it, I thought he'd be all in.

Well, according to the list I saw (in the last page), Mick and Keith weren't there either. It's all "feat." players, all principals missing.

- Doxa



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Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: September 26, 2023 09:27

But, according to those a couple of secs, we are going to hear a pretty exceptional Stones song, not to mention a single. Cool. Lady Gaga's hymn-like singing already is sticking to my mind, and dying to hear what Stevie will come up with. Tasty-sounding stuff.

- Doxa



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Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: September 26, 2023 09:56

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Doxa

It's all "feat." players, all principals missing.

From the RS Instagram Story:



[www.Instagram.com] · Full picture, see: [iorr.org] , [iorr.org] .



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Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: powerage78 ()
Date: September 26, 2023 10:10

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I'm just a Bad Boy Boogie



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Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Date: September 26, 2023 10:21

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Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: UrbanSteel ()
Date: September 26, 2023 11:06

I'm afraid this is a digital download single and not a physical CD single. You can't order it as a physical CD single anywhere.

Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: NilsHolgersson ()
Date: September 26, 2023 11:13

A Rolling Stones song with no Mick and Keith performing?

Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: txussilvestre ()
Date: September 26, 2023 11:29

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I might have misread it but is Ronnie not a part of Sweet Sounds of Heaven? He's not been listed among the players, so that's got me confused. He's spoken so highly of it, I thought he'd be all in.

Well, according to the list I saw (in the last page), Mick and Keith weren't there either. It's all "feat." players, all principals missing.

- Doxa

In the NYT article it says: "Jagger and an exuberant Lady Gaga sing, pushing each other to one peak and then, after a pause, restarting the groove as a studio jam that reaches even higher".
So I suppose that Mick, Keith and Ronnie are in the song in their common role of vocals, guitar and guitar, respectively. So maybe they are omitted in the credits for being "self-explanatory".



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Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: September 26, 2023 11:40

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A Rolling Stones song with no Mick and Keith performing?

That's the "New Era" .... winking smiley

Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: September 26, 2023 11:46

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I might have misread it but is Ronnie not a part of Sweet Sounds of Heaven? He's not been listed among the players, so that's got me confused. He's spoken so highly of it, I thought he'd be all in.

Well, according to the list I saw (in the last page), Mick and Keith weren't there either. It's all "feat." players, all principals missing.

- Doxa

In the NYT article it says: "Jagger and an exuberant Lady Gaga sing, pushing each other to one peak and then, after a pause, restarting the groove as a studio jam that reaches even higher".
So I suppose that Mick, Keith and Ronnie are in the song in their common role of vocals, guitar and guitar, respectively. So maybe they are omitted in the credits for being "self-explanatory".

Yeah, the absence of Mick's name alone means that we don't need to worry about the absence of Ronnie. For some reason they decided not to list the core band. They are taken for granted, I suppose. As it actually is: it is the Rolling Stones (Mick, Keith, Ron) featuring all the rest.

- Doxa



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Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: September 26, 2023 11:51

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You can't order it as a physical CD single anywhere.

At the moment. You couldn't order the physical single of 'Angry' when the first snippet of it appeared on 1-Sep-2023 on the special made website. But Hackney Diamonds on Instagram showed a CD case - [iorr.org] .

Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: txussilvestre ()
Date: September 26, 2023 11:59

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I might have misread it but is Ronnie not a part of Sweet Sounds of Heaven? He's not been listed among the players, so that's got me confused. He's spoken so highly of it, I thought he'd be all in.

Well, according to the list I saw (in the last page), Mick and Keith weren't there either. It's all "feat." players, all principals missing.

- Doxa

In the NYT article it says: "Jagger and an exuberant Lady Gaga sing, pushing each other to one peak and then, after a pause, restarting the groove as a studio jam that reaches even higher".
So I suppose that Mick, Keith and Ronnie are in the song in their common role of vocals, guitar and guitar, respectively. So maybe they are omitted in the credits for being "self-explanatory".

Yeah, the absence of Mick's name alone means that we don't need to worry about the absence of Ronnie. For some reason they decided not to list the core band. They are taken for granted, I suppose. As it actually is: it is the Rolling Stones (Mick, Keith, Ron) featuring all the rest.

- Doxa

It is also my understanding



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Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: September 26, 2023 12:18

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Made me think about Tops.

The loose atmosphere reminded me of Invitation with Womack and Covay (long thought to be Mick) or LIND.

SSOH sounds like a great groovy soul track but a single?! Of course that doesn't really mean much these days, especially for the Stones...they only really needed one to launch the album and Angry was fine for that.

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Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: maumau ()
Date: September 26, 2023 12:24

the snippet sounds really sweet, good vibes

that above looks like the list of "featuring" artists beyond the core band, and I really love to see a horn section!

can't wait to hear the whole thing

Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: September 26, 2023 12:29

Actually it will be interesting how strong Ronnie's contribution will be like. He was very prominent on BLUE & LONESOME. Seemingly Keith has worked a lot for this album, and surely Mick plays some guitar as well - as "Angry" indicates - so most likely Ronnie will not have that big role in guitar department as he had in the blues album. But I hope and believe he is more present, and more integrated to the over-all sound, than on A BIGGER BANG.

- Doxa

Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: Wild Slivovitz ()
Date: September 26, 2023 12:41

The snippet doesn't sound to me as part or the finished product, but rather as a display of the featured performances. Let's see!

Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: HardRiffin ()
Date: September 26, 2023 13:17

Keef or Watt on bass?!

Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: September 26, 2023 13:25

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Keef or Watt on bass?!

Andrew Watt - [iorr.org] .

Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out Oct 20
Posted by: bitusa2012 ()
Date: September 26, 2023 13:32

I must be odd then. This few seconds actually fill me with trepidation. Lady GaGa sounds way too shrill to my ears. Ear piercing. I wish her vocals were a bit further down in the mix. A bit fearful, I am. I hope to eat my words when I hear it in full and in proper quality, but for now, um, no. I hear Tops in there, yes, but in a clumsy and over bearing way. Turn her down, please!!

Rod



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