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The use of the phrase "New Era" may have been included to counteract predictable talk such as: "Surely this must be the last album", "Mick is 80 - surely he/they can't continue much longer" "the tour was cancelled - surely they can't carry on touring at their ages", "this must be their swan song", "retirement is near", etc.. Instead, I think the idea is to prompt questions about this new era and minimize focus on whether or not this is the "last hurrah". I also think that phrase "New Era" may refer to the fact that the new album will be the first featuring tracks recorded after Charlie's passing.

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slewan
maybe it's very simple

last era = touring without new songs (2012-2022)

new era = touring with a new songs

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slewan
maybe it's very simple

last era = touring without new songs (2012-2022)

new era = touring with a new songs

Doom And Gloom
One More Shot
Just Your Fool
Ride 'Em On Down
Hate To See You Go
Living In A Ghost Town
Troubles A'Comin

Not sure if they'll play more new stuff in this new "era", but I hope I'm wrong

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Dan
Finally looked at Watt's credits and it's not encouraging. It's like Jagger is going for the youth market who will never know or care this exists. Still looking forward to hearing it, I could be suprised, especially if he is just punching up stuff Jagger already wrote and not just sharing credit with him.

Look at how much better BTB aged compared to ABB. Risk taking often pays off.

Yeah, and you know, taking influences or using people from contemporary scene doesn't necessarily mean going for youth market, but more like updating one's own game, refreshing it by some new things. That's what artists do, if they just don't want to live in the past. Besides, Watt was also recommended by Paul McCartney, although Mick had already been in touch with him independent of that. I think it is natural for people like Macca and Jagger wanting to be awere of what's going on in the contemporary musical world, to know what the younger colleagues with their fresh minds are up to. The evolution of music did not stop, say, in 1972, or when they were the hottest acts of the day. Probably they, by nature, are not that conservative as far as trends in sounds go compared to many of their old guard fans. Probably due that liberal mind, they actually are what they are, pretty strong figures in music even today. They are not just totally relying on nostalgy card. Much for sure (old dogs don't learn new tricks), but not totally.

There is also an educational point for us old farts: we get to know new ideas and things via our old heroes... They are offered for us in a very easily digestable form, since those are never that radical, but just adding some new flavor on old music (especially in the context of the Stones). But, of course, some purists in music nostalgia will complain that 'Hey, this new album not exactly sound like STICKY FINGERS'...

I join the choir praising a bit more 'experimental-sounding' BRIDGES TO BABYLON compared to more 'retro-sounding' VOODOO LOUNGE and A BIGGER BANG. It sounds more inspired and I think it has aged better than those two. But then again, the Stones were able to put out totally anti-contemporary-sounding but still highly inspired and fresh album (to my ears) with BLUE&LONESOME. The bonus material in new editions of classic albums is also pure and intentionally classical sounding Stones. But unfortunately the bonus material did not seem to gather much interest outside the hardcore fan circles, if not even there. Probably that might also be a good reason to make the new album to sound a bit different, to somehow make it more distinguishable (you know, wouldn't be even a bit artistically questionable if the new album would sound about exactly the same music and soundwise as TATTOO YOU bonus album?). At least "Ghost Town" did.

- Doxa

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it's a tour supplier company, power etc. - [www.fourthgenerationltd.com]

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dkwalika
Is Fourth Generation a separate company, or is this the fourth generation of the Stones:

1. Brian
2. Taylor
3. Ronnie
4. Post-Charlie

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slewan
maybe it's very simple

last era = touring without new songs (2012-2022)

new era = touring with a new songs

Doom And Gloom
One More Shot
Just Your Fool
Ride 'Em On Down
Hate To See You Go
Living In A Ghost Town
Troubles A'Comin

Not sure if they'll play more new stuff in this new "era", but I hope I'm wrong

well, more than a half of the songs you mention are covers. Beside that: have they ever played more than two of them at the same show?

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dnewton99
it's a tour supplier company, power etc. - [www.fourthgenerationltd.com]

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dkwalika
Is Fourth Generation a separate company, or is this the fourth generation of the Stones:

1. Brian
2. Taylor
3. Ronnie
4. Post-Charlie

1. Taylor (Dick)
2. Jones (Brian)
3. Taylor (Mick)
4. Wood (Ronnie)
5. Jones (Darryl)
6. Post-Charlie

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dnewton99
it's a tour supplier company, power etc. - [www.fourthgenerationltd.com]

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dkwalika
Is Fourth Generation a separate company, or is this the fourth generation of the Stones:

1. Brian
2. Taylor
3. Ronnie
4. Post-Charlie

1. Taylor (Dick)
2. Jones (Brian)
3. Taylor (Mick)
4. Wood (Ronnie)
5. Jones (Darryl)
6. Post-Charlie

Let us not make this too complicated. Let's go to essentials:

1. Pre-Charlie
2. Charlie
3. Post-Charlie

- Doxa

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dnewton99
it's a tour supplier company, power etc. - [www.fourthgenerationltd.com]

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dkwalika
Is Fourth Generation a separate company, or is this the fourth generation of the Stones:

1. Brian
2. Taylor
3. Ronnie
4. Post-Charlie

1. Taylor (Dick)
2. Jones (Brian)
3. Taylor (Mick)
4. Wood (Ronnie)
5. Jones (Darryl)
6. Post-Charlie

Let us not make this too complicated. Let's go to essentials:

1. Pre-Charlie
2. Charlie
3. Post-Charlie

- Doxa

I'll take it a step further for simplicity sake:

1. Charlie
2. Post-Charlie

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If they tour behind the album, I have trouble imagining modern shows that have 4-5 slots of new songs. But that is what they did in 2005. The Ottawa show I went to had Rough Justice, Back of my Hand, Infamy and Oh No, Not You Again. There may have even been shows that year with 6 new songs if they mixed in This Place is Empty and Streets of Love.

By 2006 I think they were only doing 2 new songs (Rough / Streets) and in 2007 they ONLY played Rough Justice from ABB.

I'll reserve my judgement for when I hear the new songs, but I still can't imagine them playing a show today with 5 new ones

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bengigan
If they tour behind the album, I have trouble imagining modern shows that have 4-5 slots of new songs. But that is what they did in 2005. The Ottawa show I went to had Rough Justice, Back of my Hand, Infamy and Oh No, Not You Again. There may have even been shows that year with 6 new songs if they mixed in This Place is Empty and Streets of Love.

By 2006 I think they were only doing 2 new songs (Rough / Streets) and in 2007 they ONLY played Rough Justice from ABB.

I'll reserve my judgement for when I hear the new songs, but I still can't imagine them playing a show today with 5 new ones

It would be great if they played the whole thing, with a couple warhorses tacked on at beginning and end. A la 1978 tour.

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so tomorrow ... this is getting exciting!!

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kid killowatt
Personally I think Mick still can perform live for 2 hours, Ronnie maybe.....but Keith I'm not sure.

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The Hackney Diamonds launch is certainly causing a stir in the East End of London. Meanwhile in the West End of London, Christie's auction house are displaying one of the World's largest diamonds!

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Hi,manofwealthandtaste,how much of a stir is going on?

I am planning on catching a train and tube and then walking tomorrow but I’m now wondering if,by the time I get there, I’d see more by viewing online rather than actually being present - not that I’d be able to get inside anyway!

Hi there Harlem, I haven't ventured over to Hackney myself but it's going to be a warm, sunny day tomorrow so why not take a stroll along Mare Street and see what you can see! It remains to be seen if Mick, Keith and Ronnie turn up in 'Pearly Kings of East London' attire! You will catch more online of course, but I am sure it will be available on Youtube after the event.

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Sorry if this has been mentioned, but I'm guessing that the space between Mick and Keith in their promo pic is an homage to Charlie.

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Larger version of the NYC photo posted previously.


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