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Yeah, and you know, taking influences or using people from contemporary scene doesn't necessarily mean going for youth market, but more like updating one's own game, refreshing it by some new things. That's what artists do, if they just don't want to live in the past. Besides, Watt was also recommended by Paul McCartney, although Mick had already been in touch with him independent of that. I think it is natural for people like Macca and Jagger wanting to be awere of what's going on in the contemporary musical world, to know what the younger colleagues with their fresh minds are up to. The evolution of music did not stop, say, in 1972, or when they were the hottest acts of the day. Probably they, by nature, are not that conservative as far as trends in sounds go compared to many of their old guard fans. Probably due that liberal mind, they actually are what they are, pretty strong figures in music even today. They are not just totally relying on nostalgy card. Much for sure (old dogs don't learn new tricks), but not totally.
There is also an educational point for us old farts: we get to know new ideas and things via our old heroes... They are offered for us in a very easily digestable form, since those are never that radical, but just adding some new flavor on old music (especially in the context of the Stones). But, of course, some purists in music nostalgia will complain that 'Hey, this new album not exactly sound like STICKY FINGERS'...
I join the choir praising a bit more 'experimental-sounding' BRIDGES TO BABYLON compared to more 'retro-sounding' VOODOO LOUNGE and A BIGGER BANG. It sounds more inspired and I think it has aged better than those two. But then again, the Stones were able to put out totally anti-contemporary-sounding but still highly inspired and fresh album (to my ears) with BLUE&LONESOME. The bonus material in new editions of classic albums is also pure and intentionally classical sounding Stones. But unfortunately the bonus material did not seem to gather much interest outside the hardcore fan circles, if not even there. Probably that might also be a good reason to make the new album to sound a bit different, to somehow make it more distinguishable (you know, wouldn't be even a bit artistically questionable if the new album would sound about exactly the same music and soundwise as TATTOO YOU bonus album?). At least "Ghost Town" did.
- Doxa
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2023-09-05 13:06 by Doxa.
Thanks so much for the info! I had a feeling about "new era" possibly meaning more albums, which I find quite exciting. Although that could also be interpreted simply as more live albums or compilations, but hopefully another studio album or two could factor in as well!
Ride like the wind at double speed.....
Everything here is true, like it should be.
However, to draw inspiration of contemporary artists that will pay off musically, you'll always be depending on the quality of that contemporary scene. But that's another discussion
"Is this gonna be your last album?" Keith: "Yes, this and the next five!"
In hard times like these everybody has to cut their expenses… haha
Oh, they left him out? That sucks if true. He mentioned being on three tracks in that Australian radio interview early on the year.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-09-05 13:19 by Topi.
Hi there Harlem, I haven't ventured over to Hackney myself but it's going to be a warm, sunny day tomorrow so why not take a stroll along Mare Street and see what you can see! It remains to be seen if Mick, Keith and Ronnie turn up in 'Pearly Kings of East London' attire! You will catch more online of course, but I am sure it will be available on Youtube after the event.
OK, I give up. Not such exciting photos anyway, but there must be a crew of about 50 people. one of the photos shows them loading in stuff to the auditorium, with a guy with a Stones Sixty tShirt on.
Again, I chatted with a few of the guys, everyone's lips are sealed!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-09-05 13:32 by peoplewitheyes.
Not yet .... but maybe later on, when 'physical tours' are not longer possible for the Stones.
I hope that it means more albums!! And are a bit anxious... Could new era mean some thing like those virtual concerts Abba made? Sure I would like to attend those concerts that I missed: Madison Square Gardens in 1969, Brussels 1973 etc., but...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-09-05 15:50 by GetYerAngie.
I was quietly hoping that too...they have so much in the can, if they're not on the road as much, maybe they continue releasing new material. Singles, EPs and even albums over the next 10 years, and do the residency thing. It's not as maligned as it once was, doing a Vegas stint.
Could be, but it looks like it would be rather the next era, after the 'new era'.
Hope so.
The Beatles Let it Be album was proclaimed as a “new phase Beatles album “.
We know how that new phase turned out.
It’s just promotional PR, that’s all. I wouldn’t read anything into “a new era”.
Rod
I'm afraid it'll be the residency era... Can't blame them, though.
Yes, but the question was if there'll be virtual Stones concerts in future (like ABBA does now) - and I'm quite sure Mick keeps an eye of this future.
Of course. Legacy. But I Guess that is after their ”active period”
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Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: September 5, 2023 12:45
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treaclefingers
Damn!
I thought they had people to carry their gig stuff for them?!
This is all part of the new era!
All of them are Black And Blue
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
Doxa
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Date: September 5, 2023 12:49
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Dan
Finally looked at Watt's credits and it's not encouraging. It's like Jagger is going for the youth market who will never know or care this exists. Still looking forward to hearing it, I could be suprised, especially if he is just punching up stuff Jagger already wrote and not just sharing credit with him.
Look at how much better BTB aged compared to ABB. Risk taking often pays off.
Yeah, and you know, taking influences or using people from contemporary scene doesn't necessarily mean going for youth market, but more like updating one's own game, refreshing it by some new things. That's what artists do, if they just don't want to live in the past. Besides, Watt was also recommended by Paul McCartney, although Mick had already been in touch with him independent of that. I think it is natural for people like Macca and Jagger wanting to be awere of what's going on in the contemporary musical world, to know what the younger colleagues with their fresh minds are up to. The evolution of music did not stop, say, in 1972, or when they were the hottest acts of the day. Probably they, by nature, are not that conservative as far as trends in sounds go compared to many of their old guard fans. Probably due that liberal mind, they actually are what they are, pretty strong figures in music even today. They are not just totally relying on nostalgy card. Much for sure (old dogs don't learn new tricks), but not totally.
There is also an educational point for us old farts: we get to know new ideas and things via our old heroes... They are offered for us in a very easily digestable form, since those are never that radical, but just adding some new flavor on old music (especially in the context of the Stones). But, of course, some purists in music nostalgia will complain that 'Hey, this new album not exactly sound like STICKY FINGERS'...
I join the choir praising a bit more 'experimental-sounding' BRIDGES TO BABYLON compared to more 'retro-sounding' VOODOO LOUNGE and A BIGGER BANG. It sounds more inspired and I think it has aged better than those two. But then again, the Stones were able to put out totally anti-contemporary-sounding but still highly inspired and fresh album (to my ears) with BLUE&LONESOME. The bonus material in new editions of classic albums is also pure and intentionally classical sounding Stones. But unfortunately the bonus material did not seem to gather much interest outside the hardcore fan circles, if not even there. Probably that might also be a good reason to make the new album to sound a bit different, to somehow make it more distinguishable (you know, wouldn't be even a bit artistically questionable if the new album would sound about exactly the same music and soundwise as TATTOO YOU bonus album?). At least "Ghost Town" did.
- Doxa
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2023-09-05 13:06 by Doxa.
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
sf37
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Date: September 5, 2023 12:54
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ukcal
New Era = more Albums, but less or no touring but that may mean a month in Vegas or NYC
Thanks so much for the info! I had a feeling about "new era" possibly meaning more albums, which I find quite exciting. Although that could also be interpreted simply as more live albums or compilations, but hopefully another studio album or two could factor in as well!
Ride like the wind at double speed.....
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: September 5, 2023 12:58
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DoxaQuote
LorenzAgainQuote
Dan
Finally looked at Watt's credits and it's not encouraging. It's like Jagger is going for the youth market who will never know or care this exists. Still looking forward to hearing it, I could be suprised, especially if he is just punching up stuff Jagger already wrote and not just sharing credit with him.
Look at how much better BTB aged compared to ABB. Risk taking often pays off.
Yeah, and you know, taking influences or using people from contemporary scene doesn't necessarily mean going for youth market, but more like updating one's own game, refreshing it by some new things. That's what artists do, if they just want to live in the past. Besides, Watt was also recommended by Paul McCartney, although Mick had already been in touch with him independent of that. I think it is natural for people like Macca and Jagger wanting to be awere of what's going on in the contemporary musical world, to know what the younger colleagues with their fresh minds are up to. The evolution of music did not stop, say, in 1972, or when they were the hottest acts of the day. Probably they, by nature, are not that conservative as far as trends in sounds go compared to many of their old guard fans. Probably due that liberal mind, they actually are what they are, pretty strong figures in music even today. They are not just totally relying on nostalgy card. Much for sure (old dogs don't learn new tricks), but not totally.
There is also an educational point for us old farts: we get to know new ideas and things via our old heroes... They are offered for us in a very easily digestable form, since those are never that radical, but just adding some new flavor on old music (especially in the context of the Stones). But, of course, some purists in music nostalgia will complain that 'Hey, this new album not exactly sound like STICKY FINGERS'...
I join the choir praising a bit more 'experimental-sounding' BRIDGES TO BABYLON compared to more 'retro-sounding' VOODOO LOUNGE and A BIGGER BANG. It sounds more inspired and I think it has aged better than those two. But then again, the Stones were able to put out totally anti-contemporary-sounding but still highly inspired and fresh album with BLUE&LONESOME. The bonus material in new editions of classic albums is also pure and intentionally classical sounding Stones. But unfortunately that did not seem to gather much interest outside the hardcore fan circles, if not even there. Probably that might also be a good reason to make the new album to sound a bit different, to somehow make it more distinguishable (you know, wouldn't be even a bit artistically questionable if the new album would sound about exactly the same music and soundwise as TATTOO YOU bonus album?). At least "Ghost Town" did.
- Doxa
Everything here is true, like it should be.
However, to draw inspiration of contemporary artists that will pay off musically, you'll always be depending on the quality of that contemporary scene. But that's another discussion
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
Irix
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Date: September 5, 2023 13:05
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ukcal
New Era = more Albums, but less or no touring but that may mean a month in Vegas or NYC
"Is this gonna be your last album?" Keith: "Yes, this and the next five!"
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
slewan
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Date: September 5, 2023 13:13
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treaclefingers
Damn!
I thought they had people to carry their gig stuff for them?!
In hard times like these everybody has to cut their expenses… haha
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
Topi
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Date: September 5, 2023 13:18
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chriseganstarBen doesn't think he's on it now. Shame.Quote
ukcal
Hey, got a reply off Ben W, if the track listing is correct
then he is not on the new Album?
New Era = more Albums, but less or no touring but that may mean a month in Vegas or NYC
Guess the Fallon interview will spill the beans
Oh, they left him out? That sucks if true. He mentioned being on three tracks in that Australian radio interview early on the year.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-09-05 13:19 by Topi.
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: September 5, 2023 13:23
Maybe he's on bonus tracks or b-sides.
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
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Manofwealthandtaste
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Date: September 5, 2023 13:25
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The Hackney Diamonds launch is certainly causing a stir in the East End of London. Meanwhile in the West End of London, Christie's auction house are displaying one of the World's largest diamonds!
[www.bbc.co.uk]
Hi,manofwealthandtaste,how much of a stir is going on?
I am planning on catching a train and tube and then walking tomorrow but I’m now wondering if,by the time I get there, I’d see more by viewing online rather than actually being present - not that I’d be able to get inside anyway!
Hi there Harlem, I haven't ventured over to Hackney myself but it's going to be a warm, sunny day tomorrow so why not take a stroll along Mare Street and see what you can see! It remains to be seen if Mick, Keith and Ronnie turn up in 'Pearly Kings of East London' attire! You will catch more online of course, but I am sure it will be available on Youtube after the event.
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
peoplewitheyes
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Date: September 5, 2023 13:26
certainly getting busy at the Empire this morning!
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
peoplewitheyes
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Date: September 5, 2023 13:28
Arrgg! I tried posting the my photo via facebook and via google photos, neither work
with http and https
with http and https
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
peoplewitheyes
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Date: September 5, 2023 13:30
OK, I give up. Not such exciting photos anyway, but there must be a crew of about 50 people. one of the photos shows them loading in stuff to the auditorium, with a guy with a Stones Sixty tShirt on.
Again, I chatted with a few of the guys, everyone's lips are sealed!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-09-05 13:32 by peoplewitheyes.
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
peoplewitheyes
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Date: September 5, 2023 13:33
By the way, I do wonder if the 'new era' is the launch of Stones avatars for a hologram show like ABBA's?
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
bye bye johnny
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Date: September 5, 2023 13:38
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peoplewitheyes
Arrgg! I tried posting the my photo via facebook and via google photos, neither work
with http and https
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
Irix
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Date: September 5, 2023 13:40
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peoplewitheyes
By the way, I do wonder if the 'new era' is the launch of Stones avatars for a hologram show like ABBA's?
Not yet .... but maybe later on, when 'physical tours' are not longer possible for the Stones.
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
peoplewitheyes
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Date: September 5, 2023 13:42
Thank you BBJohnny and Irix! I appreciate it!
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
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peoplewitheyes
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Date: September 5, 2023 13:44
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
GetYerAngie
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Date: September 5, 2023 15:14
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IrixQuote
ukcal
New Era = more Albums, but less or no touring but that may mean a month in Vegas or NYC
"Is this gonna be your last album?" Keith: "Yes, this and the next five!"
I hope that it means more albums!! And are a bit anxious... Could new era mean some thing like those virtual concerts Abba made? Sure I would like to attend those concerts that I missed: Madison Square Gardens in 1969, Brussels 1973 etc., but...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-09-05 15:50 by GetYerAngie.
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: September 5, 2023 15:47
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sf37Quote
ukcal
New Era = more Albums, but less or no touring but that may mean a month in Vegas or NYC
Thanks so much for the info! I had a feeling about "new era" possibly meaning more albums, which I find quite exciting. Although that could also be interpreted simply as more live albums or compilations, but hopefully another studio album or two could factor in as well!
I was quietly hoping that too...they have so much in the can, if they're not on the road as much, maybe they continue releasing new material. Singles, EPs and even albums over the next 10 years, and do the residency thing. It's not as maligned as it once was, doing a Vegas stint.
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: September 5, 2023 15:50
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GetYerAngie
Could new era mean some thing like those virtual concerts Abba made?
Could be, but it looks like it would be rather the next era, after the 'new era'.
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
GetYerAngie
()
Date: September 5, 2023 15:52
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IrixQuote
GetYerAngie
Could new era mean some thing like those virtual concerts Abba made?
Could be, but it looks like it would be rather the next era, after the 'new era'.
Hope so.
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
Doc
()
Date: September 5, 2023 16:06
What is the tee the guy is wearing ? Don't remember this particular design...
Maybe it will be a Rolling Clones tour ? (OK lousy joke)
[doctorstonesblog.blogspot.com]
Maybe it will be a Rolling Clones tour ? (OK lousy joke)
[doctorstonesblog.blogspot.com]
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
bitusa2012
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Date: September 5, 2023 16:07
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IrixQuote
GetYerAngie
Could new era mean some thing like those virtual concerts Abba made?
Could be, but it looks like it would be rather the next era, after the 'new era'.
The Beatles Let it Be album was proclaimed as a “new phase Beatles album “.
We know how that new phase turned out.
It’s just promotional PR, that’s all. I wouldn’t read anything into “a new era”.
Rod
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
StonedRambler
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Date: September 5, 2023 16:10
I would think of a new era in this way:
2005-2007 A Bigger Bang Era
2008-2012 Archive Releases
2012-2022 Touring Greatest Hits without an album (Grrr, No Filter, Sixty)
2023 Hackney Diamonds Era
I would think this word "Era" is nothing more than marketing and does not have any deeper meaning, but I also could be wrong
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2005-2007 A Bigger Bang Era
2008-2012 Archive Releases
2012-2022 Touring Greatest Hits without an album (Grrr, No Filter, Sixty)
2023 Hackney Diamonds Era
I would think this word "Era" is nothing more than marketing and does not have any deeper meaning, but I also could be wrong
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-09-05 16:16 by StonedRambler.
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
shattered1978
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Date: September 5, 2023 16:16
It is all marketing, nothing wrong with that.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-09-05 16:16 by shattered1978.
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: September 5, 2023 16:19
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StonedRambler
I would think of a new era in this way:
2005-2007 A Bigger Bang Era
2008-2012 Archive Releases
2012-2022 Touring Greatest Hits without an album (Grrr, No Filter, Sixty)
2023 Hackney Diamonds Era
I would think this word "Era" is nothing more than marketing and does not have any deeper meaning, but I also could be wrong
I'm afraid it'll be the residency era... Can't blame them, though.
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: September 5, 2023 16:25
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bitusa2012
It’s just promotional PR, that’s all. I wouldn’t read anything into “a new era”.
Yes, but the question was if there'll be virtual Stones concerts in future (like ABBA does now) - and I'm quite sure Mick keeps an eye of this future.
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
tiffanyblu
()
Date: September 5, 2023 16:45
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IrixQuote
bitusa2012
It’s just promotional PR, that’s all. I wouldn’t read anything into “a new era”.
Yes, but the question was if there'll be virtual Stones concerts in future (like ABBA does now) - and I'm quite sure Mick keeps an eye of this future.
Of course. Legacy. But I Guess that is after their ”active period”
Re: Hackney Diamonds - New Rolling Stones album due out soon!
Posted by:
Plink
()
Date: September 5, 2023 16:49
The use of the phrase "New Era" may have been included to counteract predictable talk such as: "Surely this must be the last album", "Mick is 80 - surely he/they can't continue much longer" "the tour was cancelled - surely they can't carry on touring at their ages", "this must be their swan song", "retirement is near", etc.. Instead, I think the idea is to prompt questions about this new era and minimize focus on whether or not this is the "last hurrah". I also think that phrase "New Era" may refer to the fact that the new album will be the first featuring tracks recorded after Charlie's passing.
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