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georgie48
For those who are in desperate need of seeing them perform, again, there are some many recordings, documentaries, etc. etc., after they have moved to the after life, that "vitual Stones" won't be needed.
Imagine a club-show where everything is real except the Stones themself. They would be virtual, but in life-size, in 3D and 360°.
Watching a concert at home on "DVD" is not the same as watching a live-show with others.
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Hairball
And the prices would be much less expensive
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Hairball
And the prices would be much less expensive
Not sure about that (due to the technical effort) - but agree with the rest about setlist-changes & making it as real as possible (incl. 'sloppiness').
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georgie48
For those who are in desperate need of seeing them perform, again, there are some many recordings, documentaries, etc. etc., after they have moved to the after life, that "vitual Stones" won't be needed.
Imagine a club-show where everything is real except the Stones themself. They would be virtual, but in life-size, in 3D and 360°.
Watching a concert at home on "DVD" is not the same as watching a live-show with others.
And the prices would be much less expensive, along with the possibility of many setlist changes from one show to the next- not just one song here or there.
Might not be as great as experiencing the real deal, but a variety of things that the current Stones have lost touch with could be brought back virtually...
They could even throw in a few mistakes from Keith and Ronnie here and there, and the occasional all around Stonesy sloppiness to make it as real as possible.
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treaclefingers
Could we include a virtual member of the crowd rushing the stage and have the virtual Keith swing his guitar at him?
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georgie48
There is nothing like “a sharing feeling” with all the other viewers in the theatre.
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georgie48
There is nothing like “a sharing feeling” with all the other viewers in the theatre.
Viewed in this way, there was also no “sharing feeling” with all the other spectators in Berlin Waldbühne (3-Aug-22) because people in the neighboring seats were strangers and not interested in each other.
3D green-red glasses are btw pretty low-tech (1970s TV) - there should be something better to depict it as real as possible. And strictly speaking tends in a movie the feeling approaching the real thing also against zero.
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georgie48
Maybe particular kinds of people go to live concerts and isolate themselves from all the others, but myself and many, many others really share the concert experience with eachother.
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NilsHolgersson
I think with ABBA its different because they havent performed as a group in over 40 years and generations of people havent had the chance to see them. So a 'hologram' show is as close to a real concert as fans can get. Now with the Stones they've been performing longer than anyone can remember, and everybody has the chance to see them every 5 years or so. So who needs a hologram show when the real thing is still around? You're not going to get Mick saying funny things in your language about current events or Keith messing up or throwing out a brilliant solo you didnt expect
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NilsHolgersson
I think with ABBA its different because they havent performed as a group in over 40 years and generations of people havent had the chance to see them. So a 'hologram' show is as close to a real concert as fans can get. Now with the Stones they've been performing longer than anyone can remember, and everybody has the chance to see them every 5 years or so. So who needs a hologram show when the real thing is still around? You're not going to get Mick saying funny things in your language about current events or Keith messing up or throwing out a brilliant solo you didnt expect
Exactly. It's ridiculous to even entertain/compare that thought.
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I think with ABBA its different because they havent performed as a group in over 40 years and generations of people havent had the chance to see them. So a 'hologram' show is as close to a real concert as fans can get. Now with the Stones they've been performing longer than anyone can remember, and everybody has the chance to see them every 5 years or so. So who needs a hologram show when the real thing is still around? You're not going to get Mick saying funny things in your language about current events or Keith messing up or throwing out a brilliant solo you didnt expect
Exactly. It's ridiculous to even entertain/compare that thought.
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There seem to be a lot of (younger) people who wear Stones gear without seemingly even being aware who the band are - hard though it is to believe. (And sacrilege too ;-)
Do you think there'll ever come a time when they (or their descendants) make more cash from monetising the famous lapping tongue on clothes and other merchandise than from music and streaming sales?
Somewhere in the early 2000s people started wearing band shirts without any interest in the band. Ramones & Stones shirts seemed amongst the 2 most popular ones. I agree it’s sacrilege!
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There seem to be a lot of (younger) people who wear Stones gear without seemingly even being aware who the band are - hard though it is to believe. (And sacrilege too ;-)
Do you think there'll ever come a time when they (or their descendants) make more cash from monetising the famous lapping tongue on clothes and other merchandise than from music and streaming sales?
Somewhere in the early 2000s people started wearing band shirts without any interest in the band. Ramones & Stones shirts seemed amongst the 2 most popular ones. I agree it’s sacrilege!
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There seem to be a lot of (younger) people who wear Stones gear without seemingly even being aware who the band are - hard though it is to believe. (And sacrilege too ;-)
Do you think there'll ever come a time when they (or their descendants) make more cash from monetising the famous lapping tongue on clothes and other merchandise than from music and streaming sales?
Somewhere in the early 2000s people started wearing band shirts without any interest in the band. Ramones & Stones shirts seemed amongst the 2 most popular ones. I agree it’s sacrilege!
+ AC/DC
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I think with ABBA its different because they havent performed as a group in over 40 years and generations of people havent had the chance to see them. So a 'hologram' show is as close to a real concert as fans can get. Now with the Stones they've been performing longer than anyone can remember, and everybody has the chance to see them every 5 years or so. So who needs a hologram show when the real thing is still around? You're not going to get Mick saying funny things in your language about current events or Keith messing up or throwing out a brilliant solo you didnt expect
Exactly. It's ridiculous to even entertain/compare that thought.
I would love you to be right about everything you say. But, unfortunately, I'm not convinced. Why? There are a couple of reasons I believe. Firstly, how long more will they be around? The most optimistic estimate would surely be no more than about five years. Even that is highly unlikely. So someone, somewhere in the Stones business operation will think 'Okay, we may not have the real thing any longer, but, hey, a virtual concert is a good financial fallback option...' And, painful though it is for those who love the music, the hard fact is that The Rolling Stones have become a huge financial/business operation where commercial organisations that most of us never heard of have a financial stake in the band and a voice in the various decision-making processes.
Secondly, even if the band themselves, or their business associates, are not enthusiastic, they may well feel it necessary to do so simply to block off any pale pirate imitations that will, almost certainly, begin to emerge. Their thinking being 'well at least if WE do it, we will do a quality job'
The Stones are too popular, too iconic and too successful for people to NOT want to keep them 'alive' (I use the world very loosely) somehow. Even if a Virtual Stones would be anathema to purists like myself and to other good people who post on this site.
It's the world we live in!
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Hairball
And the prices would be much less expensive, along with the possibility of many setlist changes from one show to the next- not just one song here or there.
Might not be as great as experiencing the real deal, but a variety of things that the current Stones have lost touch with could be brought back virtually...
They could even throw in a few mistakes from Keith and Ronnie here and there, and the occasional all around Stonesy sloppiness to make it as real as possible.
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Little old "Mini Doxa" is on another drunken rampage having crawled out from under his rock....