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The Sicilian
Please, stay home and watch the videos. But while you're at it, describe Charlie's swing for us.
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flilflam
All I hear from Jordan is bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, and bang. Few fills and change of tone when the mood of the song changes. Mainly noise. But, maybe he will get better.
The new drummer should be auditioned and he should be someone from the UK. Many guitarists were auditioned when Mick Taylor left the band. Why not do the same for the drummer ?
Good explanation. I second that. What also makes the "Charlie Swing" are the ghost notes of the snare in between the backbeat. These ghost notes are often super subtle and sometimes not even audible through the guitars, but they were played with a certain swing/shuffle feel and made the whole groove swing. With SJ I don't hear/see these ghostnotes that much. On certain songs like CAGWYW he kinda does it but on others like JJF not at all.Quote
Markdog
Charlie's swing was how he plays the quarter notes and especially the kick drum downbeat. Those are the feel of the drums. Rigid is straight ahead almost computer like but the added swing is the space between the snare hits. the minute placing and pressure of those quarter notes makes all the difference. Eg, have a double kick in the beat, Charlie may emphasize the 2nd one and make the first once softer. Huge difference in feel.
Watch Steve's Gimme Shelter...played correctly but he puts equal priority to kick beats and snare and even though he has groove in it the feel is different.
Best way I can explain how I feel the swing difference.
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flilflam
All I hear from Jordan is bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, and bang. .....
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flilflam
All I hear from Jordan is bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, and bang. .....
Well, he is the drummer.
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His Majesty
Post Jones = different. Post Taylor = different. Post Stu = different. Post Wyman = different. Post Charlie = different.
I have often criticised this band, hah, but I am glad they take no notice of what I and others say.
Steve was the obvious and perfect musician for this next stage of the bands history.
Charlie's death is huge for them and us, but I don't think it's the only reason for the sadness that's around. The whole covid thing has turned the world upside down too and then there's the general mess we find ourselves in via politics etc.
Faced with sickness, death and a divided world, I am sure glad they kept playing. I think this tour is a beautiful and noble attempt to keep going in the face of adversity. They are very good at that. An example for us all.
I love The Rolling Stones.
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Doxa
His Majesty
Very well said. Puts things into perspective. And nice to hear that from you.
- Doxa
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His Majesty
Post Jones = different. Post Taylor = different. Post Stu = different. Post Wyman = different. Post Charlie = different.
I have often criticised this band, hah, but I am glad they take no notice of what I and others say.
Steve was the obvious and perfect musician for this next stage of the bands history.
Charlie's death is huge for them and us, but I don't think it's the only reason for the sadness that's around. The whole covid thing has turned the world upside down too and then there's the general mess we find ourselves in via politics etc.
Faced with sickness, death and a divided world, I am sure glad they kept playing. I think this tour is a beautiful and noble attempt to keep going in the face of adversity. They are very good at that. An example for us all.
I love The Rolling Stones.
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Rocktiludrop
Steve's definitely getting better every show, and pushing the band, jeez they are on fire right now, no telling how hard they will be rocking by show 12 or 13, i hope they add more dates because this is just too good to stop.
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DandelionPowderman
He's been excellent from the get-go, imo.
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DandelionPowderman
He's been excellent from the get-go, imo.
Absolutely.
Man, did they pick the right guy for a near impossible situation.
Keith deserves a lot of praise as well for how well this is working.
It's clear the extra time spent rehearsing with him prior to reg rehearsals has really paid off.