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OK, any drummers out there who care to comment? I have never hit a drum in my life, so “expert” drummer comments and thoughts would be welcome. To me Charlie has a tremendously light touch for a rock & roll drummer (bearing in mind, and also being aware, of the jazz background that he has). Steve, no offence to him, on the Winos records hits them pretty hard. So Steve’s drumming on the tour should be interesting. You also have the interplay of him and Jones, two very seasoned and excellent musicians. Finally I will add Godspeed on your recovery Charlie, and the very best of luck to the band and to Steve Jordan joining on the upcoming the tour.
Charlie does have that light touch, he's got a slight swing, and stays behind the beat just enough to cause tension. The Stones don't roll without Charles.
Steve is technically a good drummer but his playing bores me. He's too 'on the beat' mostly and his work with Keith was ok for for solidness but something feels missing.
I personally don't want to see the boys without Charlie but will have to have tix for at least the last 6 shows hopin' Charlie shows up by then.
I'll miss Charlotte in my home state.
Yeah, Jordan is on the beat and LOUD, that Neil Young clip shows it very well. The complete opposite of Charlie. Hopefully he can come back for any 2022 gigs in Europe if not it will be a hard decision to go or not...probably "not" at this stage.
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Stoneage
Negativity aside, one must admit they actually care for their fans. It seems important for them to fulfil their obligation concerning the postponed concerts.
And I don't think it's only the money they care about.
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It won’t even sound like the stones. I’m out
LOL! Overreact much? No doubt this sucks but it will sound like the Stones.
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It won’t even sound like the stones. I’m out
LOL! Overreact much? No doubt this sucks but it will sound like the Stones.
Probably not. Watch a Winos video. Jordan beats the hell out of the drums. Charlie has a smooth jazzman's touch. It will sound like Keith Moon sitting in, although Jordan can keep time.
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It won’t even sound like the stones. I’m out
LOL! Overreact much? No doubt this sucks but it will sound like the Stones.
Probably not. Watch a Winos video. Jordan beats the hell out of the drums. Charlie has a smooth jazzman's touch. It will sound like Keith Moon sitting in, although Jordan can keep time.
Duck
Thank you for clarifying the situation. I feel a lot better because it bothered me to think that Steve had bad mouth Bill Wyman. Simply listen what Bill Wyman played with Stones and it is evident that his musical contributions were as important as the rest of band, each one of them. Bill is great and Darryl is a fantastic player. Thank you Roundround.Quote
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Just want to set the record straight... I conducted the interview with Steve Jordan for the Darryl Jones documentary. What has been "quoted" here by some people is wildly exaggerated and inaccurate. It was a long interview and Steve said many positive things about both Bill Wyman and Darryl. He did not trash Bill or devalue his contributions to the Stones at all. He did say that Bill seemed stiff and rusty at the Stones 50th anniversary concert in London in 2012, but he did not trash Bill or say that he was anything other than a great bass player. As is Darryl Jones. This is not a competition. They are both great in their own ways, and I'm sure Steve will do very well with the Stones on this tour...
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It won’t even sound like the stones. I’m out
LOL! Overreact much? No doubt this sucks but it will sound like the Stones.
Probably not. Watch a Winos video. Jordan beats the hell out of the drums. Charlie has a smooth jazzman's touch. It will sound like Keith Moon sitting in, although Jordan can keep time.
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he toured with Clapton and Clapton surely isn't a rock act these days
Steve Jordan can absolutely play with a gentler touch,..I think he'll do a superb job while Charlie is recovering:
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All four signed contracts that include the clause if Ronnie or Charlie are unable to perform, they will be replaced. The current contract also prohibits them from performing - not even a solo one off gig until this tour is completed. Yes, they could refuse to tour and spend years in litigation or settle quickly, either way no one is going to be eager to offer them contracts in the future.
I'm not doubting you, because you've proven to be reliable in regards to inside info. But if they're prohibited from doing any shows until the current tour is finished, how does that explain the show for Robert Kraft in Boston? Does it get a slide because it's a private show?
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I wonder if they will ramp up the tempo on some songs when they have Jordan on drums. Maybe not only Charlie but also Keith is more comfortable with the slower tempos we have become used to the last 10 years.
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hopkins
They sorta should be refundable. The Rolling Stones is what was contracted with the ticket sale.
All the advertising prominently features Mr.Watts.
It's not like a Broadway show where you could get a stand in for a character part.
Now I trust that you're correct because I don't know anything about the actual legalities but it's my feeling. The More I think about it. It's a personal thing admittedly, but the world's greatest Rock and Roll band is what's being promoted.
That's not Steve. No offense. He's a way different stylist.
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Stoneage
Negativity aside, one must admit they actually care for their fans. It seems important for them to fulfil their obligation concerning the postponed concerts.
And I don't think it's only the money they care about.
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Stoneage
Negativity aside, one must admit they actually care for their fans. It seems important for them to fulfil their obligation concerning the postponed concerts.
And I don't think it's only the money they care about.
If you believe that l have a bridge to sell you,It is all about the money and whoever falls by the side (Charlie) too f---ng bad.
They will continue to milk the nostalgia crowds till either Mick or Keith dies,and even then the one left alive will find a way to continue the money machine rolling....
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hopkins
They sorta should be refundable. The Rolling Stones is what was contracted with the ticket sale.
All the advertising prominently features Mr.Watts.
It's not like a Broadway show where you could get a stand in for a character part.
Now I trust that you're correct because I don't know anything about the actual legalities but it's my feeling. The More I think about it. It's a personal thing admittedly, but the world's greatest Rock and Roll band is what's being promoted.
That's not Steve. No offense. He's a way different stylist.
If you bought AC/DC tickets before Brian Johnson lost his hearing for a show after he lost his hearing... and Axl Rose is the singer, it's still AC/DC.
That's the legalities of it. It's that simple.
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Irix
Hopefully the Stones will never do the same as AC/DC did in 2016 - performing as "AXL/DC" in a wheelchair ....
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TornAndFried
Why do people assume the Stones were contractually obligated to continue this tour without Charlie? Do you really think they would have a contract obliging them to play even if one of their principle members was not able to join for whatever reason? They are doing this tour because they choose to.