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WorriedAboutYou
"Music of The Rolling Stones performed by Chuck Leavell, Mick Jagger and friends"
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triceratops
Maybe this was mentioned...Charlie has back problems that required surgery? That require long recovery time. I have read previously that his back bothers him. Though he can hold up, soldier on for tours. Charlie has done so until this surgery.
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Javadave
Here’s a good video example of Steve Jordan’s aptitude as a cover drummer:
[m.youtube.com]
John Fogerty & Friends-Born On The Bayou
John Fogerty
Jerry Garcia
Bob Weir
Randy Jackson
Steve Jordan
May 27, 1989
Stop AIDS Concert
Oakland Coliseum
Oakland, California
Here’s a high quality matrix audio of the whole show:
[m.youtube.com]
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floodonthepage
The RS article indicated Charlie asked Steve. "I asked my great friend Steve....." something like that.
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georgelicks
Sadly it's only business and insurance today, no more artistic integrity, the cost of not doing the tour is worse, a big lawsuit of many years against them, a time loss, time that they don't have now.
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saltoftheearth
If they invited Mick Taylor and made him part of the band they would still have four original members on stage.
Mick Taylor is not an original member. He replaced Brian Jones.
Funny to see now that the Stones have a black rhythm section.
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Javadave
Here’s a good video example of Steve Jordan’s aptitude as a cover drummer:
[m.youtube.com]
John Fogerty & Friends-Born On The Bayou
John Fogerty
Jerry Garcia
Bob Weir
Randy Jackson
Steve Jordan
May 27, 1989
Stop AIDS Concert
Oakland Coliseum
Oakland, California
Here’s a high quality matrix audio of the whole show:
[m.youtube.com]
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roryfaninva
I'd wager Steve Jordan was already discreetly identified as a contingency before the tour even started. With an 80 year old cancer survivor anchoring a multi multi million dollar tour , the contracts probably mandated it. An ailing Charlie Watts wasnt cold calling anyone from a hospital bed, regardless of how its framed in the PR/media. The show must go on.
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2014Slayer
Read this article this morning, and for some really odd reason, it mentions the Stones playing the Rose Bowl Jan. 1, 2022!
[deadline.com]
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floodonthepage
The RS article indicated Charlie asked Steve. "I asked my great friend Steve....." something like that.
Prior to the official statement from the band - including Charlie's comments - all articles quoted The Sun.
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floodonthepage
A couple things seem clear to me...
1. Charlie wants this, according to the RS article. It sounds like HE asked Steve to do this, which makes a different for me.
2. The fact that theses shows are going forward doesn't (for me) mean that Keith or anyone else still doesn't feel the "No Charlie, No Stones" phrase. It means that the pandemic/contracts/insurers have them "in a spot", a spot that includes the livelihood of many a crew member. Charlie and everyone in the band are helping those people in many ways by going forward, not the least of which financially.
Less clear to me is....
3. The door does seem open for Charlie to come back during the tour, if not later in this tour then down the road with whatever plans they have that we are not aware of...that said, those plans may not include anymore US dates, and with that in mind do I want my (possibly) last Stones show to be w/o Charlie or do I skip the tour...knowing that if I (and enough other people) do that it may in some fashion hurt the larger/extended Stones family (the crew, etc.). I work with someone now who worked on their crew for Licks, and I can imagine what it means to people like him that the "show goes on"....not to mention what if (pie in the sky) Charlie comes back mid-tour...to experience that would be outstanding.
Lastly and ultimately, I think if this truly were a "Charlie is out" scenario, as in done with touring or worse.....if he had passed...then the "No Charlie, No Stones" would take hold and the band would stop. I could be wrong about that (as was exampled by the Who with Entwistle which has been pointed out was likely a contractual jam as well) but I'd like to think I'm right about that.
Charlie did not ask Steve Jordan to play for him, that was Mick and Keith. He was the obvious choice anyway.
Most likely Keith and Ronnie's choice. Btw, do you have sources for this and the surgery-thing?
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MidnightDevilRambler
Just a bad omen for this tour in many respects.
Glad I'm taking a pass this time...
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bv
First of all I hope Charlie will recover completely soon. Then it will be very interesting to see how Steve Jordan will solve complex RS drumming challenges - mastered in an excellent way by Charlie - like Midnight Rambler.
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saltoftheearth
If they invited Mick Taylor and made him part of the band they would still have four original members on stage.
Mick Taylor is not an original member. He replaced Brian Jones.
Funny to see now that the Stones have a black rhythm section.
If you are that critical about it let's tate that he is former member, and he would be more fitting than someone who has neverbeen part of the Stones.
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TheflyingDutchman
Mick Taylor is not an original member. He replaced Brian Jones.