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retired_dog
On first listening, I've pinpointed this track directly to Primitive Cool - due to the vocal delivery and the fact that any rough edges that would indicate any Stones involvement are missing. However, it's possible that this little thingy derives from the She's The Boss sessions, brought over to the Stones to see if it could be of use for Dirty Work, then after some tentative work (possibly including some licks from Ronnie) discarded, and then resurrected for Primitive Cool with finalized vocals by Mick, only to be discarded once again.
It was a short timespan anyway, and for that time period a certain crossover between solo and Stones work would represent not that of a huge anomality as it may appear now.
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retired_dog
Your question alone of who's owning the publishing rights to the 1965 Stones Paris show is telling enough that you still have absolutely no clue, otherwise my explanation in my post above concerning Paris 1965 would have been more than enough!
Just a small hint: Who composed "Hey Crawdaddy", "Carol", "It's All Over Now", "Little Red Rooster", "Off The Hook" and all the other songs included in this particular show?
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SomeTorontoGirl
Irix, am still shut out, even after your help and calling in a few favours at this end.
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retired_dog
Your question alone of who's owning the publishing rights to the 1965 Stones Paris show is telling enough that you still have absolutely no clue, otherwise my explanation in my post above concerning Paris 1965 would have been more than enough!
Just a small hint: Who composed "Hey Crawdaddy", "Carol", "It's All Over Now", "Little Red Rooster", "Off The Hook" and all the other songs included in this particular show?
Sorry, I just don't think you are that well informed yourself. I leave it at that because I don't like your tone of voice.
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SomeTorontoGirl
OMG - IRIX! You rock!
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GetYerAngie
I've got Desperate Man on replay since the these outtakes was leaked. I'm still so surprised that a track like that has remained for so long in the vaults.
The falsetto at 1.57 gives one goosebumps.
If we get a Tattoo You deluxe it would fit there I think.
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chevysales
does anyone still have iPods? I thought they've been gone for years...
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SomeTorontoGirl
OMG - IRIX! You rock!
Do the ALAC-files work on the iPod?
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Hairball
Never have been able warm up to Desperate Man as it sounds way too generic, and as maumau stated there's a alot similarities with Don't Stop.
Nothing wrong with Micks vocals to my ears - he actually sounds great, but the song itself is forgettable imo.
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Doxa
A few words about the song number two (a long way to go, but I enjoy each step, and I am not in hurry anywhere!).
There seems to be no doubt that "Trouble's A Coming" derives from EMOTIONAL RESCUE sessions (1979), since the track is already known (under different title) from other bootlegs.
That's a non-disputed, but an interesting fact, since my ears wouldn't have naturally located it here. Musically I would say it belongs more to the first part of 70's, to the likes of "Stop Breakin' Down", "Hide Your Love" and "Crazy Mama". There is that sort of laid back, steady, dark and damn tight blues-based groove they mastered during the early 70's (but of which they had more or less get rid of by the joyful, free-going 'punkish' SOME GIRLS era). Another oddity is Mick's straight phrasing with certain type of melodic hooks (that also sound something he did more during the first half of the 70's). Yeah, there is a bit of that SOME GIRLS/EMOTIONAL RESCUE era arrogance and conscious roughness, but not that much.
Probably in its own context it sounded a bit 'too retro' R&B number for them making a cool, sexy follow-up album to fresh, updated-sounding SOME GIRLS (Haha, as "Start Me Up" supposedly did for it too..), so I understand it didn't make EMOTIONAL RESCUE.
But opinions: Damn I like this track helluva lot. I think the groove of it - as simple and straight-forward it is - is such hypnotic and totally irrestible for my ears. The way the guitars, the bass, the drums and the piano speak the same language in a perfect synch, with such a taste and no bullshitting ('less is more' and a 'sum is more than its parts', etc.). I could listen it forever... and as simple as the melody of it as catchy it is, almost like a Fogerty tune (I already once woke up that chorus ringing in head...) And wow - how Mick delivers it! Following the melody note by note humbly with nothing extra. Raw, naked and simple. Altogether, good noise: musically full of interesting choices in its simplicity - the chord changes when they happen and when they do not! - pure Stones magic!
- Doxa
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SomeTorontoGirl
Not...yet. Sadly. Every other thing will sync but not these tracks.
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Hairball
Never have been able warm up to Desperate Man as it sounds way too generic, and as maumau stated there's a alot similarities with Don't Stop.
Nothing wrong with Micks vocals to my ears - he actually sounds great, but the song itself is forgettable imo.
I was referring to Nobody's Perfect as the similar mould to Don't Stop. Desperate Man is a nice crafted modern era bluesy stones, nice guitar work, so nice that in some moments you can go as far as feeling a "tonights the night" vibe (then I wake up ) but with a smile on my face . good work
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SomeTorontoGirl
Not...yet. Sadly. Every other thing will sync but not these tracks.
So at least iTunes does import/show/play the Tracks? I've made an update with the Metadata - [iorr.org] . Sync & Play tested - works on my iPad (late 2012), don't have an iPod anymore.
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SomeTorontoGirl
Maybe my iPod is too old - no idea how long I’ve had it but the back says ‘XXX GB’ and everything else is in Latin.
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Irix
Dunno what the issue could be. File-size of the ALACs is in total 1.37 GB. Not enough space on the iPod? Does manual sync from iTunes to the iPod (drag & drop) work?
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SomeTorontoGirl
Not...yet. Sadly. Every other thing will sync but not these tracks.
So at least iTunes does import/show/play the Tracks? I've made an update with the Metadata - [iorr.org] . Sync & Play tested - works on my iPad (late 2012), don't have an iPod anymore.
Yes, they all play perfectly on my (15-year-old) iMac and my laptop, but just won’t sync. Maybe my iPod is too old - no idea how long I’ve had it but the back says ‘XXX GB’ and everything else is in Latin.
I had also burned CDs yesterday, from the original download (which is why I keep my old Mac!) but they played really poorly on my Bose unit so I tried them in the car - the CDs are fine but my Bose is now apparently garbage. A bad week for tech here. Nothing for it but to go for a drive and play the CDs in the car.
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Taylor1
Nobody’s Perfect has the best lyrics of any of these outtakes Musically it needs more work.The guitars are awful. The solo doesn’t suit the lyrics at all.A reworked song,and it is a song that has meaning as opposed to something like Curtis
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rollmops
Any guess on who is playing the rhythm guitar on "Cooking up"? It does not sound like Keith. It is an energic strumming but no "chopping" a la Keith. May be Jagger. If it's him, it proves that he is a decent strummer.
Rockandroll,
Mops