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jbwelda
>You voted him in. This is what you got.
Actually, no, he was not "voted...in", not at all. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by more than two million votes. That is one of the many deep ironies here: these clowns are now against the electoral college, but it is how they came into power to begin with.
Hypocrites and parasites, thieves, liars and criminals.
jb
However, by virtue of the rules of representation, Trump really was voted in. And in the 2020 election, even after his line towards the Covid19 disease,Trump obtained more than 74 million votes. The vital question is how those voters consider what happened yesterday.
Everyone is condemning this. Doesn't matter who you voted for. For years conservatives criticized the violent destruction by various groups supported by the other side, to turn and do the same thing disgusts all but the most extreme which are very, very few and will never be satisfied.
The question, however, is how many of Trump's more than 74 million voters will after this still remain under Trump's leadership, charismatic for quite many of them, and how many will cease to do so? Besides, what would be the conditions for them to act otherwise over time?
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Stoneage
I do not understand why the USA, or Great Britain, do not change to a proportional electoral system. If you do that you will have more than two parties to vote for.
Another question is how long the Republican Party will support Trump. One would think that they out of pure self-interest would distance themselves from him.
Trump? It's like that old Tina Turner song - "what you see is what you get". You voted him in. This is what you got.
When politicians are in opposition they talk about proportional representation, but once they get into power they suddenly develop a great affection for the system that got them elected.
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I do not understand why the USA, or Great Britain, do not change to a proportional electoral system. If you do that you will have more than two parties to vote for.
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schillid
Many of us in and around NYC have been familiar for decades with this scumbag trump...
.. we already knew that he is a despicable dickhead...
Knew it before he ran for president and f*cked up the entire country.
Now... to the many. many people who were -- and some still are -- fooled by trump:
Now... do you get it??
He is dangerous.
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Bellajane
Trump should be removed from office and tried for treason. They are talking about invoking the 25th Amendment (which should have been done long before now), but he only has 2 weeks left and I don't even know if it could be accomplished that quickly. Trump and COVID a perfect storm of Hell.
It made me sick seeing the MAGA maggots brandishing the Confederate flag in the Capitol. What a disgrace.
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emotionalbarbecue
According to some sources there have been some irregularities in vote counting.
I do not know if this information is true.
If it were true USA has a very big problem in terms of legitimacy of their goverment. And Trump voters must be really rightly angry...
(I do not live in USA)
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emotionalbarbecue
According to some sources there have been some irregularities in vote counting.
I do not know if this information is true.
If it were true USA has a very big problem in terms of legitimacy of their goverment. And Trump voters must be really rightly angry...
(I do not live in USA)
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schillid
trump should be removed now or resign
yep...agreed 100%
However, so should the Mayor of DC and the Chief of Police
Trump caused this. Full stop.
However, it is the Mayor the CoP's responsibility to provide security in the city of DC....it is THEIR city....that is fact.
...they failed.
The Mayor or the Chief are not responsible for the Capitol.. on federal land.
That is on the Capitol Police, and the Feds- ie the DOJ, National Guard.
Another interesting aspect of policing in DC, as it is not a state, all serious crimes revert to federal jurisdiction.
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jbwelda
>You voted him in. This is what you got.
Actually, no, he was not "voted...in", not at all. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by more than two million votes. That is one of the many deep ironies here: these clowns are now against the electoral college, but it is how they came into power to begin with.
Hypocrites and parasites, thieves, liars and criminals.
jb
However, by virtue of the rules of representation, Trump really was voted in. And in the 2020 election, even after his line towards the Covid19 disease,Trump obtained more than 74 million votes. The vital question is how those voters consider what happened yesterday.
Everyone is condemning this. Doesn't matter who you voted for. For years conservatives criticized the violent destruction by various groups supported by the other side, to turn and do the same thing disgusts all but the most extreme which are very, very few and will never be satisfied.
The question, however, is how many of Trump's more than 74 million voters will after this still remain under Trump's leadership, charismatic for quite many of them, and how many will cease to do so? Besides, what would be the conditions for them to act otherwise over time?
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emotionalbarbecue
According to some sources there have been some irregularities in vote counting.
I do not know if this information is true.
If it were true USA has a very big problem in terms of legitimacy of their goverment. And Trump voters must be really rightly angry...
(I do not live in USA)
Nice try at false information. The Trump campaign filed 60 lawsuits that were rejected from courts all over the country. Trump is lying about voter fraud. He is the fraud. He has been lying about things for 50 years. Banks in New York will not do business with him. That’s why he has to borrow money from global banks like HSBC.
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Bungo
This is all a direct result of what the Democrats have been doing to Trump and his administration for the last 4 years including overtly stealing a presidential election with the complicit approval of our media. Unfortunately none of this is going to simply die-down and go away. "President elect" Joe Biden and his family still have a lot of illegal activity to answer for and I highly doubt he will complete a 4 year term. The American people see through the false narrative and cover-up by our media.
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emotionalbarbecue
According to some sources there have been some irregularities in vote counting.
I do not know if this information is true.
If it were true USA has a very big problem in terms of legitimacy of their goverment. And Trump voters must be really rightly angry...
(I do not live in USA)
I bet you know well that those allegations have been tried in court. Result: 59-1, hence those are baseless accusations.
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jbwelda
>You voted him in. This is what you got.
Actually, no, he was not "voted...in", not at all. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by more than two million votes. That is one of the many deep ironies here: these clowns are now against the electoral college, but it is how they came into power to begin with.
Hypocrites and parasites, thieves, liars and criminals.
jb
However, by virtue of the rules of representation, Trump really was voted in. And in the 2020 election, even after his line towards the Covid19 disease,Trump obtained more than 74 million votes. The vital question is how those voters consider what happened yesterday.
Everyone is condemning this. Doesn't matter who you voted for. For years conservatives criticized the violent destruction by various groups supported by the other side, to turn and do the same thing disgusts all but the most extreme which are very, very few and will never be satisfied.
The question, however, is how many of Trump's more than 74 million voters will after this still remain under Trump's leadership, charismatic for quite many of them, and how many will cease to do so? Besides, what would be the conditions for them to act otherwise over time?
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Bungo
This is all a direct result of what the Democrats have been doing to Trump and his administration for the last 4 years including overtly stealing a presidential election with the complicit approval of our media. Unfortunately none of this is going to simply die-down and go away. "President elect" Joe Biden and his family still have a lot of illegal activity to answer for and I highly doubt he will complete a 4 year term. The American people see through the false narrative and cover-up by our media.
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emotionalbarbecue
According to some sources there have been some irregularities in vote counting.
I do not know if this information is true.
If it were true USA has a very big problem in terms of legitimacy of their goverment. And Trump voters must be really rightly angry...
(I do not live in USA)
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Maindefender
There are always voter anomalies in presidential elections, not sure the percentage but it's always been tolerated. I really hope some sort of voter reform gets priority. While there wasn't evidence of fraud per se, there certainly was a manipulation of the rules that should never happen again. Politics is a dirty beast.
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bv
This is not the right place to discuss politics.
The thread is here because of the DC Capitol building terror yesterday.
There is absolutely no excuse for terror.
Unarmed Capitol security people got chased by the mob. Horrible to watch videos.
The House got trashed. Democracy was attacked.
I hope FBI and law enforcement find and punish those involved.
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bv
This is not the right place to discuss politics.
The thread is here because of the DC Capitol building terror yesterday.
There is absolutely no excuse for terror.
Unarmed Capitol security people got chased by the mob. Horrible to watch videos.
The House got trashed. Democracy was attacked.
I hope FBI and law enforcement find and punish those involved.
What occurred yesterday in DC was because of Trumps speeches and tweets. He inspired that with his endless lies. Those were Domestic Terrorists in DC. Several explosive devices were found in DC yesterday. The terrorists and Trump should be prosecuted.
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Chris Fountain
I have an idea. Why not split the country into divisions such as the NFL?
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Chris Fountain
I have an idea. Why not split the country into divisions such as the NFL?
Tried that in the 1860's. Didn't work.
It was not given a chance to work.