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bitusa2012
So... ARE these the same masters as in the last box set????
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Captain Teague
I'm sticking with my original vinyl copies recorded to the best possible quality at the time of release and that's good enough for me.
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GasLightStreet
Anyone going to ape about the fact that these vinyl LPs are being cut from a digital master, which makes it completely pointless regarding sound quality?
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Anyone going to ape about the fact that these vinyl LPs are being cut from a digital master, which makes it completely pointless regarding sound quality?
The digital masters are partly in DSD-format (like on SACD). Vinyl sounds better than SACD?
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I personally don't know. I don't think I've ever listened to a vinyl LP from a digital recording.
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I personally don't know. I don't think I've ever listened to a vinyl LP from a digital recording.
So no latter day Stones-Albums? Miles Showell from Abbey Road said: "two or three of the later albums are digital recordings" -- [iorr.org] .
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Anyone going to ape about the fact that these vinyl LPs are being cut from a digital master, which makes it completely pointless regarding sound quality?
The digital masters are partly in DSD-format (like on SACD). Vinyl sounds better than SACD?
HA HA! Eh, well, for the people that are strictly into the analog idea, from what I understand, that is a huge difference.
I personally don't know. I don't think I've ever listened to a vinyl LP from a digital recording.
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bitusa2012
So... ARE these the same masters as in the last box set????
[Store.uDiscoverMusic.com] - "Every album was remastered & cut at revelatory Half-Speed at Abbey Road Studios" .
Why should they remaster the Albums again when they were already remastered two years ago? - [www.uDiscoverMusic.com] .
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Anyone going to ape about the fact that these vinyl LPs are being cut from a digital master, which makes it completely pointless regarding sound quality?
The digital masters are partly in DSD-format (like on SACD). Vinyl sounds better than SACD?
HA HA! Eh, well, for the people that are strictly into the analog idea, from what I understand, that is a huge difference.
I personally don't know. I don't think I've ever listened to a vinyl LP from a digital recording.
I switched back to vinyl last year. Because of the bigger sleeves and the warmer sound. Yes, I do think the vinyl sounds warmer (to my ears) than the (too) clean and sharp cd. I suppose you could make the cd sound the same with some tube preamp. I also like that for example ABB is now 4x 15 mins slices (appr.) instead of one one hour cake. Makes it more listenable. And the ABB vinyl (from the box set) has a far more ear friendly mastering than the brickwalled cd.
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Spud
The bottom line with these is that , assuming they are the same as the ones in the boxed set, they are on the whole very good.
Do the earlier ones better or even equal the original analogue pressings ?
No they don't ...but they are probably the best vinyl reissues of all these albums... to have been commissioned in the digital age and the ones which were digital from the outset are arguably superior to the original releases.
ABB is definitely the star of the show...with far less compression than the horrendously brick walled original...it sounds like a different and far better album from start to finish.
I'd have loved these to have been available individually from the outset because there are a few of the earlier releases I wouldn't have bothered with .
But I've never regretted springing for the boxed set and would recommend these releases to anyone looking for decent vinyl editions.
Everybody with a turntable should buy the ABB ...because if you haven't heard this Miles Showell cut version...you haven't heard ABB.
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Interesting points Tom.
Yes I agree...the better the HiFi system the more obvious some of these variances are.
(Indeed, the whole rationale of high compression brick wall mastering is to cater for the lowest common denominator of low quality and/or portable playback equipment.)
I'd also agree that the original ABB release on vinyl sounded better than the CD...[which for me is almost a given ]
But the new Miles Showell master is far less compressed , with a much more natural dynamic range and the resulting far more musical sound and feel.
Exile is also a very interesting case.
The earlier Abbey Road remaster of Exile from a few years ago was impressive in terms of clarity but remained overly loud, compressed and "in yer face" sounding. The one in the boxed set, possibly also from a different flat digital transfer, was mastered at lower levels but, again, with a much more natural dynamic range which makes for a far more musical result.
Are either as good an original analogue mastering & pressing ? No...but there's little point in getting into the jaded old analogue versus digital debate.
Even the real Luddites amongst us [like me] would admit that we no longer have original analogue masters in good enough condition to use for remastering projects. We have to use the digital transfers whether we like it or not.
The good news is that folks like Miles Showell have proven that we can produce decent sounding re-issues and that, in the absence of a pristine original pressing...all is not lost