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TravelinMan
I’m in the minority here, but I couldn’t see the album with a different opener. I love the song; it’s voodoo, grimy blues, rock, and Jamaican.
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I’m in the minority here, but I couldn’t see the album with a different opener. I love the song; it’s voodoo, grimy blues, rock, and Jamaican.
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I’m in the minority here, but I couldn’t see the album with a different opener. I love the song; it’s voodoo, grimy blues, rock, and Jamaican.
You are not alone here. I love "Dancing With Mr. D." It was different for the Stones starting an album off with a moody, dark and funk inspired tune rather than some rocker like "Rocks Off" from EXILE. I think it's a great representation of GOATS HEAD SOUP.
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It's possibly though the weakest opener of any Stones studio effort.
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It's possibly though the weakest opener of any Stones studio effort. Tried to love it from the get-go, but to this day fell a bit short.
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I feel like Exile is a 50’s album recorded in the early 70’s by a band in their twenties, while Goats Head is thoroughly a 70’s album. The clav is a quintessential 70’s keyboard.
I don’t consider Dancing With Mr. D a rocker, but a druggy, swampy, blues. Star, Heartbreaker, Silver Train, and the latter part of 100 Years Ago Rock much harder than Mr. D.
As much as I enjoy a lot of the tunes on Goats Head Soup, I always thought that Dancing with Mr D was one of the weakest openers of a Rolling Stone record. I sometimes wonder whether a different running order of songs would have elevated GHS status.
I think it was a miscalculation on their part. It sounded great on stage in '73. Then again, Angie was the only other cut that would have been a strong opener. They usually kicked off albums with a rocker, and there were only a handful to choose from on GHS, with Dancing With Mister D being closest to being a single. I think it's one of the things that make a lot of Stones fans consider this album uneven. Angie is simply head and shoulders above anything else on the album. Kind of like the Undercover album. Undercover of the Night simply blows away the rest of the album, although GHS, overall, was a much stronger work than Undercover.
Criss Cross or Silver Train could have made acceptable openers. CC would have been a more than adequate live song on the '73 tour than Mr. D.
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Maindefender
It's possibly though the weakest opener of any Stones studio effort. Tried to love it from the get-go, but to this day fell a bit short.
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Mainefender-Interesting question. Before it, openers were-Rocks Off, Brown Sugar, Gimme Shelter, Sympathy, Sing This All Together, LSTNT, Paint it Black, She Said Yeah, Mercy, Mercy, ENSTL, Around & Around, and Not Fade Away.
I used US releases. I'd say weakest is Sing this All Together, but Dancing with Mr. D is a close second.
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Not sure if this has already been suggested before, but detailed and reliable recording infos can be found here:
https://aeppli.ch/tug.htm
Specifically for tracks recorded that were released on "Goats Head Soup":
https://aeppli.ch/Stones/TUG1970-1973Up.pdf
Rocky, I looked at this, which is fantastic, for 1979 about Think I'm Going Mad and it says Bobby Keys but one of them "may be Ron Wood" so apparently officially no one knows who played saxophone on Think I'm Going Mad.
Additionally to that, they show no studio work done in 1981 for TATTOO YOU, which is strange seeing that there was work done in 1981, especially the final lead vocals for Start Me Up.
I think all of "Neighbors" was done in '81
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Maindefender
It's possibly though the weakest opener of any Stones studio effort. Tried to love it from the get-go, but to this day fell a bit short.
I don't know..'Dance" wasn't all that great either.
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Goats Head Soup is a masterpiece.
The album was recorded on a break between the 1972 tour and the 1973 tour, not exactly a downturn in the bands playing abilities.
The ignorance displayed in knocking a song like Angie to me is just unforgivable.
A beautiful collaboration between Mick and Keith that takes you back to Lady Jane,Blue turns to Grey and Wild Horses.
That guitar that almost talks - can you hear the music.. the heartfelt singing “where are all my friends, coming down again.,,wish I was out out in California.,,
Went out walking through the woods the other day..
Dancing with Death, silly fools thought the D was devil,good lord listen to the damn song.
Classic rockers like Starfckr and Silver Train.if they released this today you’d be drooling so much you’d be standing in a puddle.
It's not a masterpiece. However, the best songs on GHS is up there with their best stuff ever. As an album it's natural to compare GHS with SF. Both have several slow and rather dreamy pieces of music that bring colour and set the vibe for their respective albums.
When comparing with SF it's evident for me that the rockers on GHS are not in the same league as the ones on SF. That goes for some of the ballads as well.
Rockers:
Brown Sugar vs. Dancing With Mr. D
Sway vs. Heartbreaker
Can't You Hear Me Knocking vs. Silver Train
Bitch vs. Star Star
Ballads:
Wild Horses vs. Coming Down Again
I Got The Blues vs. Angie
Moonlight Mile vs. Winter
Strong album, but not up there with SF, which IS a masterpiece, imo.
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lem motlow
Goats Head Soup is a masterpiece.
The album was recorded on a break between the 1972 tour and the 1973 tour, not exactly a downturn in the bands playing abilities.
The ignorance displayed in knocking a song like Angie to me is just unforgivable.
A beautiful collaboration between Mick and Keith that takes you back to Lady Jane,Blue turns to Grey and Wild Horses.
That guitar that almost talks - can you hear the music.. the heartfelt singing “where are all my friends, coming down again.,,wish I was out out in California.,,
Went out walking through the woods the other day..
Dancing with Death, silly fools thought the D was devil,good lord listen to the damn song.
Classic rockers like Starfckr and Silver Train.if they released this today you’d be drooling so much you’d be standing in a puddle.
It's not a masterpiece. However, the best songs on GHS is up there with their best stuff ever. As an album it's natural to compare GHS with SF. Both have several slow and rather dreamy pieces of music that bring colour and set the vibe for their respective albums.
When comparing with SF it's evident for me that the rockers on GHS are not in the same league as the ones on SF. That goes for some of the ballads as well.
Rockers:
Brown Sugar vs. Dancing With Mr. D
Sway vs. Heartbreaker
Can't You Hear Me Knocking vs. Silver Train
Bitch vs. Star Star
Ballads:
Wild Horses vs. Coming Down Again
I Got The Blues vs. Angie
Moonlight Mile vs. Winter
Strong album, but not up there with SF, which IS a masterpiece, imo.
Nice try but you ultimately failed by getting lazy and going for the nuclear option i.e. using one of the big four.
I could use Sticky Fingers and destroy Abbey Road.
If you had used one of the other Stones masterpieces-December’s Children,Some Girls, Tattoo You or Out of Our Heads you would’ve had to work a little harder but you might’ve made your point.
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If I may interject I'd like to say Sticky Fingers is in my opinion the bigger masterpiece. However I've always wondered why GHS is not more talked about because I too feel it's a masterpiece. Happy to hear it's getting some attention with a new release. Hope there are some exciting extras.
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Dancing With Mr. D was fantastic live, in '73.
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Dancing With Mr. D was fantastic live, in '73.
Yeah and I'd like to know who slowed down the tempo of the song night after night... The very 1st live rendition in Vienna was quite fast but as the tour went on the song started to drag.
Methinks Mick wanted it fast but eventually as the tour went on Keef prevailed, as he considered the track would work better as a kinda-sluggish mid-tempo number.
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Yes I agree with myself...
Didn't Keef once complain Mick always wants to play the songs live too fast? Keef probbaly thinks that if you're too fast you have the rock but you miss the roll/the swing.
Can't say he's wrong if you watch a 1988 video of a Mick gig.
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TravelinMan
I’m in the minority here, but I couldn’t see the album with a different opener. I love the song; it’s voodoo, grimy blues, rock, and Jamaican.
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DandelionPowderman
He did forget that himself in 1982, though. The merck might have had something to do with it.
Love the extra solos before the third verse, btw
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Elmo Lewis
I never cared much for "Mr. D" until I heard the live version on Honk.
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I never cared much for "Mr. D" until I heard the live version on Honk.
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Yes I agree with myself...
Didn't Keef once complain Mick always wants to play the songs live too fast? Keef probbaly thinks that if you're too fast you have the rock but you miss the roll/the swing.
Can't say he's wrong if you watch a 1988 video of a Mick gig.
He did forget that himself in 1982, though. The merck might have had something to do with it.
Love the extra solos before the third verse, btw
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