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Ann Wohlin at Cotchford Farm in 1969

It's not Cotchford and it's from 1970 for Mayfair.

Pic 1: Leaving Londonderry Hotel, London to go to East Grinstead for the inquest.
Pic 2: Arriving at inquest.

7th July 1969.

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If it was put to a vote and your options were:

1. Accidental drowning (possibly too drunk or stoned to be safe in the pool alone)

Drink, drugs, battered health, wonky heart and liver, asthma, really hot pool. He went under, held his breath for too long and passed out.

Brian was fearless in water. On the night of the 2nd of July 1969 his luck ran out.

Maybe the resulting mess was from the people who were there crapping themselves because they were there and knew it could/would look bad. Stories were told, favours were asked, all giving the impression there was more to it. Frank's injured hand? Getting Brian out of the pool?

The cover up doesn't have to mean he was killed. I think it's just as plausible if not more likely that he had a peaceful exit from this world. That's why no one noticed him not come back up until it was too late. He drifted off in to unconsciousness and then silence, like his final sliding chord on No Expectations.

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Brian - June 1964 - By Peter Stuart.







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If it was put to a vote and your options were:

1. Accidental drowning (possibly too drunk or stoned to be safe in the pool alone)

Drink, drugs, battered health, wonky heart and liver, asthma, really hot pool. He went under, held his breath for too long and passed out.

Brian was fearless in water. On the night of the 2nd of July 1969 his luck ran out.

Maybe the resulting mess was from the people who were there crapping themselves because they were there and knew it could/would look bad. Stories were told, favours were asked, all giving the impression there was more to it. Frank's injured hand? Getting Brian out of the pool?

The cover up doesn't have to mean he was killed. I think it's just as plausible if not more likely that he had a peaceful exit from this world. That's why no one noticed him not come back up until it was too late. He drifted off in to unconsciousness and then silence, like his final sliding chord on No Expectations.

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Sad, but my thoughts as well.



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Ann Wohlin at Cotchford Farm in 1969

It's not Cotchford and it's from 1970 for Mayfair.

OK thanks for the correction - More pictures of her in Mayfair here (Adult Content): [elbagdad.blogspot.com]

An English businessman with the surname Jones contacted the police because he stayed at a hotel in Spain, shortly before Brian died, and received a threatening phone call one night. Brian was staying at the same hotel it turned out and apparently the phone call was put through to the wrong Mr Jones…

Wow, I am getting really confused here, I prob should read more about it. Wasn't the theory of why FT is a suspect because he was ripping off Brian and was mad that Brian was bad-mouthing him?

Shouldn't it have been the other way around, wouldn't Brian be the one to call FT if being ripped off to threaten with violence?

So the implication is FT was mad, made a threat 10 days in advance, and continued to live w/ Brian after that, then decided 10 days later it was finally time to act - the right opportunity perhaps? Just stewed (and keefed) about it for 10 full days?

Ridiculous, this entire thing, if I have that right.

Does anyone know if it’s true that Allen Klein ‘s company owns the rights not only to the 1960s Stones’ music catalogue but also Sam Cooke’s.How was he able to get these catalogues

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Does anyone know if it’s true that Allen Klein ‘s company owns the rights not only to the 1960s Stones’ music catalogue but also Sam Cooke’s.How was he able to get these catalogues

Not sure how he was able to get it, but in the early 2000's ABKCO also released hybrid CD's of Sam Cooke's greatest and Herman's Hermits, both sound great.

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That was the opening sequence?? Wow. It doesn't sound like it matches the film. But IMO it shows Brian as a very adept writer. A pity. He would have done amazing work.

edit - I mean, he did do amazing work, but he would have shown the world a lot more. as his own man.



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No drama, no hyperbole, just highlighting and looking at what he played, what he said and what he was interested in.

Yes! Looking forward to this.

No phoney baloney, overheated murder conspiracies? Good. Maybe I'll look into it.

Great f*ckn stuff, HM! Love your posts. Your breakdown of the Brian/Circus fraud has ruined my childhood. Thanks.

Great to see the Courtfield Road footage. Anyone know who shot it?
Was it purely private footage or for a longer Stones documentary?
The scenes reminded me of the footage in the film Stoned'.
Is Charlie in the film? I saw Bill...with some ladies of course. Mick and Keith and Stash. Michael Cooper possibly. Any others?

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Can someone with the 40 licks CD, perhaps the deluxe? version look in the booklet please?

Does the author of the accompanying text say who played what or is such information actually listed along with the song titles and writing credits?

You mean Stones songs in general? Are you familiar with Keno's overview of songs done by the Stones? He doesn't claim to be perfect, but it can be some help.

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Hey Philip,
I just could not locate your email address in my contacts; had to switch a while back and lost a bunch. Didn't want to start a new OT thread for something completely out of left filed either.
But I wonder if you have this answer. What is that freakin instrument in "Good Vibrations" that gives the song it's movement and throb? I don't know if you could call the pattern triplets; but it's in the lower register.
I was watching that footage of them in studio. Hal Blaine on drums. Who is that on organ and uprite bass? did not realize there were two basses on it.

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Hey Philip,
I just could not locate your email address in my contacts; had to switch a while back and lost a bunch. Didn't want to start a new OT thread for something completely out of left filed either.
But I wonder if you have this answer. What is that freakin instrument in "Good Vibrations" that gives the song it's movement and throb? I don't know if you could call the pattern triplets; but it's in the lower register.
I was watching that footage of them in studio. Hal Blaine on drums. Who is that on organ and uprite bass? did not realize there were two basses on it.

Recorded at Gold Star on 2/18/66 - take 28 is master and the engineer was Cal Harris

Drums - Hal Blaine
Percussion - Frank Capp
Fender Bass - Ray Pohlman
String Bass - Lyle Ritz
Guitars - Al Casey, Billy Strange
Piano - Don Randi
Organ - Larry Knechtel
Sax - Steve Douglas, Bill Green, Plas Johnson, Ray Migliori
Theremin - Paul Tanner

Note: It actually was not a Theremin being played but something simpler that Paul Tanner and inventor Bob Whitsell made. An instrument that made sounds similar to Leon Theremin's creation, but made it a lot simpler for non-experts to hit specific notes and control the volume.

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Gret, great stuff, His Majesty!

- Doxa

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