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Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: walterD ()
Date: April 30, 2019 18:28

Either the Westin San Jose know something - or they never got the memo about the cancellation: [twitter.com]

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: Woz ()
Date: April 30, 2019 18:30

> Do I think that refunds should be given because the shows are not going to be performed on the original dates ? (when pigs fly on a wing )That is not how this concert industry does business and if any or some of us have been around awhile we all know too well that once they get a hold of your Dracmas or Euros or greenbacks good luck getting them to let it go or to give it back .<

You can get a refund for any of the postponed shows right now, easy-peasy. Just contact Ticketmaster, it takes 2 days tops, then Voila! You can get on with your life! Again, easy-peasy.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2019-04-30 18:31 by Woz.

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Date: April 30, 2019 18:43

I just think the new plan has been set but they will not release one thing until

Jagger is 100% released period. I don't know but I am sure there is a given time

frame to be released and it probably varies a few weeks. I also wonder if a body

can reject a replaced heart valve?

If so I am sure that might be one of the milestones we are waiting on.

When Mick is 100% released the dates will fly!

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: keefmick ()
Date: April 30, 2019 18:48

Greek--1) you can get a refund right now. No questions asked. 2) the number of people travelling to see a show like the posters on this board is very small; it is not the Stones job to ensure the tens of people on this board can properly plan their holiday

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: grzegorz67 ()
Date: April 30, 2019 18:56

Quote
keefmick
Greek--1) you can get a refund right now. No questions asked. 2) the number of people travelling to see a show like the posters on this board is very small; it is not the Stones job to ensure the tens of people on this board can properly plan their holiday

Correct. If Bjornulf's made that point once, he's made it 100 times. Like many on here, I've travelled abroad and queued for hours to get into shows, meeting other fans of many, many nationalities during the queueing and socialising which is always such a great part of the gig experience.
But this mix of far travellers in the early queue is not an accurate reflection of the make up of the whole audience. These are the die-hards, who've travelled a long way, eager to make the most of it.
The vast majority of the audience for the Stones and every other artist is local, attending once a tour or once a lifetime.

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: babyblue ()
Date: April 30, 2019 18:59

Quote
TheGreek
I am not a very happy camper with my favorite band being put on the shelf which is quite understandable as our first concern is for the safety and well being of Mick Jagger . Now having said that I do not think there is a chance that the tour will go off this year . Here is why , cardiac surgery is not an easy peasey thing and when you are 75 years old the stakes are higher and much more serious as they should be as well . So Mick Jagger has to deal with his own health and well being and being the frontman for the biggest and greatest rock and roll band in history comes with many factors when you want to tour namely INSURANCE for the tour . Now this is where all bets are off because I believe that the issue with Micks heart was detected during the physical for the insurance carrier to write the policy and thusly the brake was applied to the juggernaut that is the Rolling Stones touring apparatus , and rightly so and it's not like anyone of us wants to see Mick keel over onstage and be rushed to the emergency room by first responders and paramedics . What I am most pissed about is the lack of forthcoming information and details so we can properly prepare and make our plans and live our lives . Do I think that refunds should be given because the shows are not going to be performed on the original dates ? (when pigs fly on a wing )That is not how this concert industry does business and if any or some of us have been around awhile we all know too well that once they get a hold of your Dracmas or Euros or greenbacks good luck getting them to let it go or to give it back . Wouldn't it be nice if they could give us a heads up so we can make our plans for this year ? That's where I am beyond annoyed ! We were all set to make a great trip in June to a fantastic city and had all kinds of wonderful events lined up including shows from our beloved Rolling Stones . Then when the announcement came we all cried out no it cant be , but it is .So we want to make plans to have holiday later in the year and when we are stuck in a perpetual state of limbo that's where my anger flashes out and it has it's own agenda and reasons for coming out as it just spills out at times and at other times it can be put back in the genie bottle and back up on the shelf in the book case next to the infamous Pandora box ,which at different times gets knocked off and all kinds of stuff can and does come tumbling out .What I can not reconcile is how little control we have over these events and the lack of forthcoming information in a timely manner so we can make better informed choices .

I know how you feel.We just have to wait, maybe no tour this year who knows but maybe July start but I wish the news is coming soon as I have hotels booked.

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: April 30, 2019 19:19

Quote
TheGreek
I am not a very happy camper with my favorite band being put on the shelf which is quite understandable as our first concern is for the safety and well being of Mick Jagger . Now having said that I do not think there is a chance that the tour will go off this year . Here is why , cardiac surgery is not an easy peasey thing and when you are 75 years old the stakes are higher and much more serious as they should be as well . So Mick Jagger has to deal with his own health and well being and being the frontman for the biggest and greatest rock and roll band in history comes with many factors when you want to tour namely INSURANCE for the tour . Now this is where all bets are off because I believe that the issue with Micks heart was detected during the physical for the insurance carrier to write the policy and thusly the brake was applied to the juggernaut that is the Rolling Stones touring apparatus , and rightly so and it's not like anyone of us wants to see Mick keel over onstage and be rushed to the emergency room by first responders and paramedics . What I am most pissed about is the lack of forthcoming information and details so we can properly prepare and make our plans and live our lives . Do I think that refunds should be given because the shows are not going to be performed on the original dates ? (when pigs fly on a wing )That is not how this concert industry does business and if any or some of us have been around awhile we all know too well that once they get a hold of your Dracmas or Euros or greenbacks good luck getting them to let it go or to give it back . Wouldn't it be nice if they could give us a heads up so we can make our plans for this year ? That's where I am beyond annoyed ! We were all set to make a great trip in June to a fantastic city and had all kinds of wonderful events lined up including shows from our beloved Rolling Stones . Then when the announcement came we all cried out no it cant be , but it is .So we want to make plans to have holiday later in the year and when we are stuck in a perpetual state of limbo that's where my anger flashes out and it has it's own agenda and reasons for coming out as it just spills out at times and at other times it can be put back in the genie bottle and back up on the shelf in the book case next to the infamous Pandora box ,which at different times gets knocked off and all kinds of stuff can and does come tumbling out .What I can not reconcile is how little control we have over these events and the lack of forthcoming information in a timely manner so we can make better informed choices .

Post makes little sense.
"Now having said that I do not think there is a chance that the tour will go off this year ."
"So we want to make plans to have holiday later in the year and when we are stuck in a perpetual state of limbo "

If you don't believe there's a chance, cash in your chips, get your refunds and release yourself from the self-induced state of perpetual limbo.

"What I can not reconcile is how little control we have over these events and the lack of forthcoming information in a timely manner so we can make better informed choices"

Welcome to Life 101.
Information is not forthcoming for a variety of reasons (not set, no medical release et al), none of them include, let's not release yet so "The Greek's" holiday plans are made more difficult.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2019-04-30 19:25 by MisterDDDD.

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: TheGreek ()
Date: April 30, 2019 21:08

Quote
MisterDDDD
Quote
TheGreek
I am not a very happy camper with my favorite band being put on the shelf which is quite understandable as our first concern is for the safety and well being of Mick Jagger . Now having said that I do not think there is a chance that the tour will go off this year . Here is why , cardiac surgery is not an easy peasey thing and when you are 75 years old the stakes are higher and much more serious as they should be as well . So Mick Jagger has to deal with his own health and well being and being the frontman for the biggest and greatest rock and roll band in history comes with many factors when you want to tour namely INSURANCE for the tour . Now this is where all bets are off because I believe that the issue with Micks heart was detected during the physical for the insurance carrier to write the policy and thusly the brake was applied to the juggernaut that is the Rolling Stones touring apparatus , and rightly so and it's not like anyone of us wants to see Mick keel over onstage and be rushed to the emergency room by first responders and paramedics . What I am most pissed about is the lack of forthcoming information and details so we can properly prepare and make our plans and live our lives . Do I think that refunds should be given because the shows are not going to be performed on the original dates ? (when pigs fly on a wing )That is not how this concert industry does business and if any or some of us have been around awhile we all know too well that once they get a hold of your Dracmas or Euros or greenbacks good luck getting them to let it go or to give it back . Wouldn't it be nice if they could give us a heads up so we can make our plans for this year ? That's where I am beyond annoyed ! We were all set to make a great trip in June to a fantastic city and had all kinds of wonderful events lined up including shows from our beloved Rolling Stones . Then when the announcement came we all cried out no it cant be , but it is .So we want to make plans to have holiday later in the year and when we are stuck in a perpetual state of limbo that's where my anger flashes out and it has it's own agenda and reasons for coming out as it just spills out at times and at other times it can be put back in the genie bottle and back up on the shelf in the book case next to the infamous Pandora box ,which at different times gets knocked off and all kinds of stuff can and does come tumbling out .What I can not reconcile is how little control we have over these events and the lack of forthcoming information in a timely manner so we can make better informed choices .

Post makes little sense.
"Now having said that I do not think there is a chance that the tour will go off this year ."
"So we want to make plans to have holiday later in the year and when we are stuck in a perpetual state of limbo "

If you don't believe there's a chance, cash in your chips, get your refunds and release yourself from the self-induced state of perpetual limbo.

"What I can not reconcile is how little control we have over these events and the lack of forthcoming information in a timely manner so we can make better informed choices"

Welcome to Life 101.
Information is not forthcoming for a variety of reasons (not set, no medical release et al), none of them include, let's not release yet so "The Greek's" holiday plans are made more difficult.
Thanks for your insights !

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: 35love ()
Date: April 30, 2019 22:54

Blah blah blah. Get on the stage or not. We don’t know, Joe.

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: 35love ()
Date: April 30, 2019 23:07

Quote
Woz
> Do I think that refunds should be given because the shows are not going to be performed on the original dates ? (when pigs fly on a wing )That is not how this concert industry does business and if any or some of us have been around awhile we all know too well that once they get a hold of your Dracmas or Euros or greenbacks good luck getting them to let it go or to give it back .<

You can get a refund for any of the postponed shows right now, easy-peasy. Just contact Ticketmaster, it takes 2 days tops, then Voila! You can get on with your life! Again, easy-peasy.

Yep, sure can. Then, you get to sweat out buying tickets again!
Who loves the torture?

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: Woz ()
Date: April 30, 2019 23:17

Quote
35love
Quote
Woz
> Do I think that refunds should be given because the shows are not going to be performed on the original dates ? (when pigs fly on a wing )That is not how this concert industry does business and if any or some of us have been around awhile we all know too well that once they get a hold of your Dracmas or Euros or greenbacks good luck getting them to let it go or to give it back .<

You can get a refund for any of the postponed shows right now, easy-peasy. Just contact Ticketmaster, it takes 2 days tops, then Voila! You can get on with your life! Again, easy-peasy.

Yep, sure can. Then, you get to sweat out buying tickets again!
Who loves the torture?

That's why I kept mine......it's a ticket or money in the bank, either way is OK.

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: DREAMTIME ()
Date: May 1, 2019 00:33

For the record, Mick did not have a heart valve replaced. The new one pops open over the original.

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: mickschix ()
Date: May 1, 2019 01:23

I see Greek's point..not ALL of us bought our expensive tickets from Ticketmaster....who will give a refund upon request. The seats I wanted for the Foxboro show were ALL SWEPT UP BY SCALPERS....AKA STUBHUB....so I am unable to get a refund unless the show on June 8 is cancelled, not simply " postponed"...We KNOW the Stones will NOT be at Gillette Stadium in Foxboro ( Boston) on June 8th but they are keeping my money in the event that the Stones select another date. If for some reason, I can't make that new date, tough crap for me....no refund! I then get to sell my ticket, the seller will NOT buy it back from me. I will NEVER buy from STUBHUB AGAIN! They also added a whopping $135 FEE on top of the already unreal scalp price! I told them NO WAY, and said I would not pay that $135....so they cut the " processing fee" in half....still a ridiculous EXTRA CHARGE! Oh, they were going to add insult to injury and CHARGE ME to list my ticket for sale on their site....such a class act that STUBHUB IS! Again, Iprotested so they said they'd list it FREE if that's what i want to do. I know my hassle is nothing compared to some who have other people tied to their plans but still, it is a headache. I may be selling my ROW 1 seat soon.

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: May 1, 2019 01:43

Quote
mickschix
I see Greek's point..not ALL of us bought our expensive tickets from Ticketmaster....who will give a refund upon request. The seats I wanted for the Foxboro show were ALL SWEPT UP BY SCALPERS....AKA STUBHUB....so I am unable to get a refund unless the show on June 8 is cancelled, not simply " postponed"...We KNOW the Stones will NOT be at Gillette Stadium in Foxboro ( Boston) on June 8th but they are keeping my money in the event that the Stones select another date. If for some reason, I can't make that new date, tough crap for me....no refund! I then get to sell my ticket, the seller will NOT buy it back from me. I will NEVER buy from STUBHUB AGAIN! They also added a whopping $135 FEE on top of the already unreal scalp price! I told them NO WAY, and said I would not pay that $135....so they cut the " processing fee" in half....still a ridiculous EXTRA CHARGE! Oh, they were going to add insult to injury and CHARGE ME to list my ticket for sale on their site....such a class act that STUBHUB IS! Again, Iprotested so they said they'd list it FREE if that's what i want to do. I know my hassle is nothing compared to some who have other people tied to their plans but still, it is a headache. I may be selling my ROW 1 seat soon.

Sure, some individuals are harmed more than others by the postponement and that's a drag.
Non-refundable/changeable air, hotels, and 3rd party ticket holders to name just a few examples. But, you sound like a somewhat savvy buyer (negotiate fee down, re-list for no fee etc), and I consider myself also somewhat savvy, yet I chose the non-changeable airfare to NY (x3) because it was cheaper.
You went 3rd party because you wanted a particular seat real bad.
The risks weren't hidden, to act like there is some conspiracy now is not rational. The consequences of those choices have nothing to do with the band or promoter or Jet Blue or Stubhub et al.
Meanwhile, I hear NY is nice in June winking smiley

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: Keefy ()
Date: May 1, 2019 01:58

Ima hold on to my 2nd row lower Houston tickets...Folks...This is the Rolling f'in Stones..Seen em 18 times since 81..Ima wait it out...Until there is a cancellation. Im stuck like everyone else. But alas such is life...

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: Shott ()
Date: May 1, 2019 04:22

Not sure there has been one fact posted about the tour on this string since since the first one.

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: Cooltoplady ()
Date: May 1, 2019 05:08

Quote
Shott
Not sure there has been one fact posted about the tour on this string since since the first one.

Your post is the second. Totally agree

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: 5stringTele ()
Date: May 1, 2019 05:52

^^ I beg to disagree ... that was the THIRD, not second.

Quote
5stringTele
^^ You know what they say about "no news" ...

"No news is the mother of stupidity."

That fact explains the bulk of this 74-page thread.

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: May 1, 2019 06:28

Quote
5stringTele
^^ I beg to disagree ... that was the THIRD, not second.

Quote
5stringTele
^^ You know what they say about "no news" ...

"No news is the mother of stupidity."

That fact explains the bulk of this 74-page thread.

It's also been said that quoting oneself is a sign of stupidity...


- just kidding. winking smiley

_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: ohmercy61 ()
Date: May 1, 2019 06:45

I know people are bummed out. Me and my friends got let down in Vegas when they cancelled and now this but dam these guys are old ..real old anyone of them could keel over any day now .holding my lucky dips till the end.

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: hopkins ()
Date: May 1, 2019 08:28

Quote
ohmercy61
I know people are bummed out. Me and my friends got let down in Vegas when they cancelled and now this but dam these guys are old ..real old anyone of them could keel over any day now .holding my lucky dips till the end.

sorta like your style. wish we could 'share' with other threads.
note to self: give santaland helpful suggestions on web stuff forget that.
ok, i'm with you. sorta. i think. well, lots of folks are but it sorta took
me decades and professional help, and a whole lot of ....lovin' say...
to sort of learn how to sorta not well....ok...approach it with quite that angle but...i'm still with you.

____

"The Real Old Anyone OF Them Could Keel Over Any Day Now Tour" -North America 2019
_______


ok, I admit that sorta casual, uh, death watch, is sorta appealing in a Daily Mail kinda way...
i get it. we'll all be dead and keith will be still be playing the chords bill wrote for him....
and all that, but....
just askin' how the @#$%& you gonna get that on a tee shirt?

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: TheGreek ()
Date: May 1, 2019 13:56

Quote
mickschix
I see Greek's point..not ALL of us bought our expensive tickets from Ticketmaster....who will give a refund upon request. The seats I wanted for the Foxboro show were ALL SWEPT UP BY SCALPERS....AKA STUBHUB....so I am unable to get a refund unless the show on June 8 is cancelled, not simply " postponed"...We KNOW the Stones will NOT be at Gillette Stadium in Foxboro ( Boston) on June 8th but they are keeping my money in the event that the Stones select another date. If for some reason, I can't make that new date, tough crap for me....no refund! I then get to sell my ticket, the seller will NOT buy it back from me. I will NEVER buy from STUBHUB AGAIN! They also added a whopping $135 FEE on top of the already unreal scalp price! I told them NO WAY, and said I would not pay that $135....so they cut the " processing fee" in half....still a ridiculous EXTRA CHARGE! Oh, they were going to add insult to injury and CHARGE ME to list my ticket for sale on their site....such a class act that STUBHUB IS! Again, Iprotested so they said they'd list it FREE if that's what i want to do. I know my hassle is nothing compared to some who have other people tied to their plans but still, it is a headache. I may be selling my ROW 1 seat soon.
Thanks for your kind words and understanding . I hope for all our sakes this gets resolved amicably for all of us and hope for the best smiling smiley

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: MononoM ()
Date: May 1, 2019 14:49

Quote
Woz
> Do I think that refunds should be given because the shows are not going to be performed on the original dates ? (when pigs fly on a wing )That is not how this concert industry does business and if any or some of us have been around awhile we all know too well that once they get a hold of your Dracmas or Euros or greenbacks good luck getting them to let it go or to give it back .<

You can get a refund for any of the postponed shows right now, easy-peasy. Just contact Ticketmaster, it takes 2 days tops, then Voila! You can get on with your life! Again, easy-peasy.

You can also keep your tickets and wait for the new dates. You can also take your chance by getting more tickets for more shows smiling smiley (thats what i probably gonna do.. i did plan 3 shows for this year.. most likely this will become 5 to 6 shows next year smiling smiley))

Menno

Life's just a cocktail party on the street

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: MononoM ()
Date: May 1, 2019 14:53

oh.. dont get your tix from sites like stubhub or any other 3rd party... I never did. I never will.

Always get your tix from ticketmaster (or whoever is the official promotor) or from the ticket trade section on this website (or shidobee) (or just on the street on the day of the show from another stones-fan (not from a scalper) (at face value).

Life's just a cocktail party on the street

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: kovach ()
Date: May 1, 2019 15:08

Quote
35love
Quote
Woz
> Do I think that refunds should be given because the shows are not going to be performed on the original dates ? (when pigs fly on a wing )That is not how this concert industry does business and if any or some of us have been around awhile we all know too well that once they get a hold of your Dracmas or Euros or greenbacks good luck getting them to let it go or to give it back .<

You can get a refund for any of the postponed shows right now, easy-peasy. Just contact Ticketmaster, it takes 2 days tops, then Voila! You can get on with your life! Again, easy-peasy.

Yep, sure can. Then, you get to sweat out buying tickets again!
Who loves the torture?

Exactly, I want to see the Stones, not get a refund and have to go through the ticket buying process again.

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: DeanGoodman ()
Date: May 1, 2019 16:08

Quote
kovach
Exactly, I want to see the Stones, not get a refund and have to go through the ticket buying process again.

If the Stones do reschedule, they'll be the hottest ticket on the planet. The "ghoul factor" will be off the charts.

(That's a fact.)

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: Kurt ()
Date: May 1, 2019 16:14

Quote
DeanGoodman

If the Stones do reschedule, they'll be the hottest ticket on the planet. The "ghoul factor" will be off the charts.

(That's a fact.)

RIP The Ghoul.


Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: Jeter1984 ()
Date: May 1, 2019 16:17

Quote
MononoM
oh.. dont get your tix from sites like stubhub or any other 3rd party... I never did. I never will.

Always get your tix from ticketmaster (or whoever is the official promotor) or from the ticket trade section on this website (or shidobee) (or just on the street on the day of the show from another stones-fan (not from a scalper) (at face value).

Stubhub is, in many ways, easier to deal with than TM. It's also guaranteed so there are no risks.

Face value means nothing when the market sets the prices.

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: grzegorz67 ()
Date: May 1, 2019 16:20

So, 74 pages and 1 month and 2 days on and the only facts we have are that he had a successful op a week later and is recovering well. That in itself is by far the most important thing but we're still no further forward on rescheduling.

His insurers, his doctors and his family will have the ultimate say on how matters proceed. Much as we're all fans and mad keen to see him, nothing has a higher value than health.

Re: Tour Postponed : The Rolling Stones No Filter Summer Tour USA/Canada 2019
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: May 1, 2019 16:25

Quote
DeanGoodman
Quote
kovach
Exactly, I want to see the Stones, not get a refund and have to go through the ticket buying process again.

If the Stones do reschedule, they'll be the hottest ticket on the planet. The "ghoul factor" will be off the charts.

(That's a fact.)

Respectfully, (That's a theory) at this point.

When they reschedule this and the dust settles, I doubt they'll see any net gain. Most of the shows were at or near sellout level already, getting back to that level of sales may be a challenge.
Similar to the Vegas cancellation of the first show in '16, I suspect the uncertainty about wether the show will go on, will adversely affect sales. Perhaps there will be a small bump in sales from a "ghoul factor" but I doubt it.

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