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syrel
In the grand scheme of things, there aren't enough of us travelling fans to make us being livid a material factor in decisions. But I am now wondering whether I will regret some of my cancellations... The more I think about this, the more puzzled I am about how it has been orchestrated. And TM are still selling tickets to venues, just with a date TBD (not helpful for those flying in).
I can't get refunds on the flights, however, so if they have some shows in late June I could still arrange something. If they start on 2nd July, however, then I really will be livid!!
syrel
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Doxa
Nice photos, thank you for sharing them!
Sometimes it feels a bit absurd to think what Mick Jagger still does. Training like an athlete to keep his body in condition to accomplish its task on stage. A 75 years old guy! I mean, all 'real' athletes and dancers, and whoever who based their career on physical condition, would have had retired decades earlier, but this guy just pushes hard still, like the age means nothing.. And not like any smart person of his age just to keep one's body in condition to function properly in daily routines, but in order to 'move like Jagger', to put that a two hour show convincingly in the front of some 50 000 people... Is there anyone in the world like him?
I wouldn't be surprised that after training hard once again for another tour, his body might have reacted a bit, and the doctors say 'look, Sir, you need to give your body a rest for while'. And now Mick, after having the adrenaline going strong for the upcoming going in his body, with an itchy feet, is 'working hard' to do nothing, just to stay still... (this wasn't speculation what has happened now, but more like a general observation stemming from the thought that Sir Mick is a normal mortal after all, and that sort of thing could have happened any moment...)
I guess that for quite many people of his age that lovely photo of him with his family on the beach might be the only way of life and quality time one needs, seeks and desires... No doubt Micks loves it too, but I have the picture that he is there forced to hold his horses back...
But in any case, one can take this as a warning - the day when Mick Jagger cannot 'move like Jagger' cannot be that faraway. There needs to be certain laws of nature applying for him, too. And when that day comes, anyone knowing a bit about the band knows that there is no any longer a live act called The Rolling Stones. Mick Jagger, with his proudness and professionalsim, will never reduce his act - he will not need our empathy, our love for him, when sitting in a wheelchair and singing 'Jumpin'Jack Flash', but our adoration of what he actually does. He has has very strong standards for that.
When facing these mortal kind of things (which, thankfully, wasn't such fatal as they first might have sounded like), also some positive things occur. The luxury of complaining the artistic features of The Stones today, such as set lists, the lack of new album, does seem to take a second seat for a while. It is good that people are taking the Stones so seriously in the sense of hoping from them - the guys facing their 80 years soon - 'more' than what they are willing or able to give. But at the same time that attitude might also needs a bit of 'reality check'. It will not be now, but not that far in future that when all of that 'complaining' about some semantical features might look a bit ridiculous, and then people would love to be in that privileged position again to 'complain' about their upgoing doings.
Personally I made that peace with myself about ten years ago, after having analyzed to death a thing I called at the time as 'Vegas Era' and of its artistic merits (or the lack of them). The biggest problem I discover was the guy with his dated concepts facing me in the mirror. After that I've been just grateful for anything this band has offered ever since. Actually it's been wonderful times, not just having an opportunity to see them live if I have wanted (even with Mick Taylor, for god's sake!), or to get an incredible blues album (an old harcore fan wet dream), but also having those numerous vault releases, which for years sounded something the band (Mick) didn't have any interest in (another old fan dream, and SOME GIRLS LIVE IN TEXAS alone was a total bomb!). Keef's solo album was also a nice bonus. Yep, I could criticise, like I surely have done, some of the features in all of those projects (why Taylor was not used more, why this and that cut didn't or did make, say, EXILE or SOME GIRLS bonus album, why Keef is such an old fart relying musically just on his PR persona, etc.), but that's pretty privileged stuff to do under the sun!
- Doxa
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syrel
I was flying over twice... I am going to visit San Francisco and Seattle as I've always wanted to visit them anyway. I was also doing New York/Chicago/Ontario. I won't fly back to visit them so cancelled my refundable accommodation.
syrel
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Doxa
Sometimes it feels a bit absurd to think what Mick Jagger still does. Training like an athlete to keep his body in condition to accomplish its task on stage. A 75 years old guy! I mean, all 'real' athletes and dancers, and whoever who based their career on physical condition, would have had retired decades earlier, but this guy just pushes hard still, like the age means nothing.. And not like any smart person of his age just to keep one's body in condition to function properly in daily routines, but in order to 'move like Jagger', to put that a two hour show convincingly in the front of some 50 000 people... Is there anyone in the world like him?
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Doxa
Nice photos, thank you for sharing them!
Sometimes it feels a bit absurd to think what Mick Jagger still does. Training like an athlete to keep his body in condition to accomplish its task on stage. A 75 years old guy! I mean, all 'real' athletes and dancers, and whoever who based their career on physical condition, would have had retired decades earlier, but this guy just pushes hard still, like the age means nothing.. And not like any smart person of his age just to keep one's body in condition to function properly in daily routines, but in order to 'move like Jagger', to put that a two hour show convincingly in the front of some 50 000 people... Is there anyone in the world like him?
I wouldn't be surprised that after training hard once again for another tour, his body might have reacted a bit, and the doctors say 'look, Sir, you need to give your body a rest for while'. And now Mick, after having the adrenaline going strong for the upcoming going in his body, with an itchy feet, is 'working hard' to do nothing, just to stay still... (this wasn't speculation what has happened now, but more like a general observation stemming from the thought that Sir Mick is a normal mortal after all, and that sort of thing could have happened any moment...)
I guess that for quite many people of his age that lovely photo of him with his family on the beach might be the only way of life and quality time one needs, seeks and desires... No doubt Mick loves it too, but I have the picture that he is there forced to hold his horses back...
But in any case, one can take this as a warning - the day when Mick Jagger cannot 'move like Jagger' cannot be that faraway. There needs to be certain laws of nature applying for him, too. And when that day comes, anyone knowing a bit about the band knows that there is no any longer a live act called The Rolling Stones. Mick Jagger, with his proudness and professionalsim, will never reduce his act - he will not need our empathy, our love for him, when sitting in a wheelchair and singing 'Jumpin'Jack Flash', but our adoration of what he actually does. He has has very strong standards for that.
When facing these mortal kind of things (which, thankfully, wasn't such fatal as they first might have sounded like), also some positive things occur. The luxury of complaining the artistic features of The Stones today, such as set lists, the lack of new album, does seem to take a second seat for a while. It is good that people are taking the Stones so seriously in the sense of hoping from them - the guys facing their 80 years soon - 'more' than what they are willing or able to give. But at the same time that attitude might also needs a bit of 'reality check'. It will not be now, but not that far in future that when all of that 'complaining' about some semantical features might look a bit ridiculous, and then people would love to be in that privileged position again to 'complain' about their upgoing doings.
Personally I made that peace with myself about ten years ago, after having analyzed to death a thing I called at the time as 'Vegas Era' and of its artistic merits (or the lack of them). The biggest problem I discover was the guy with his dated concepts facing me in the mirror. After that I've been just grateful for anything this band has offered ever since. Actually it's been wonderful times, not just having an opportunity to see them live if I have wanted (even with Mick Taylor, for god's sake!), or to get an incredible blues album (an old harcore fan wet dream), but also having those numerous vault releases, which for years sounded something the band (Mick) didn't have any interest in (another old fan dream, and SOME GIRLS LIVE IN TEXAS alone was a total bomb!). Keef's solo album was also a nice bonus. Yep, I could criticise, like I surely have done, some of the features in all of those projects (why Taylor was not used more, why this and that cut didn't or did make, say, EXILE or SOME GIRLS bonus album, why Keef is such an old fart relying musically just on his PR persona, etc.), but that's pretty privileged stuff to do under the sun!
- Doxa
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Redhotcarpet
They can’t reveal the reason because of ticket sales. They want to maintain sales and minimize refunds. If it is just a small injury they better have a doctor say that. Stop the speculations.
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syrel
In the grand scheme of things, there aren't enough of us travelling fans to make us being livid a material factor in decisions. But I am now wondering whether I will regret some of my cancellations... The more I think about this, the more puzzled I am about how it has been orchestrated. And TM are still selling tickets to venues, just with a date TBD (not helpful for those flying in).
I can't get refunds on the flights, however, so if they have some shows in late June I could still arrange something. If they start on 2nd July, however, then I really will be livid!!
syrel
I've cancelled nothing because most of what I've booked is non refundable anyway. I fancy a trip over, Stones or not. If the tour restarts before or between my travel dates of June 7-24, then I'll look into getting flights or buses to wherever they are. I'm flying into Boston and back out from New York and you can get transport connections to just about anywhere from both of those cities.
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gotdablouse
It has to be something like that indeed but the strategy seems flawed, who's going to be buying $x00 tickets now for a show that WILL (as per the PR) be rescheduled so at a date unknown ! And it's not like they're offering a discount ?
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MisterDDDD
Lot going on that week in Seattle, syrel.
Neil Young, Tedeschi Trucks, Lisa Fischer all in town (going to Lisa's Thurs. show with another fan feel free to join if inclined, dinner show, good table)
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schwonek
Guys, relax. It is good to be anywhere!
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schwonek
Guys, relax. It is good to be anywhere!
Did the dyed hair already wash out?
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grzegorz67
No doubt Charlie went straight home. No photos of him anywhere.
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Doxa
That's no Jack Daniels on the Rocks, that's cold Tea.
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Alef
But why not disclose what it is, if it is insignificant.
Maybe something to do with the private parts.
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grzegorz67
Keith hasn't bothered to dye his hair for years. Quite a few artists of that vintage no longer bother - Paul McCartney having recently joined them.