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babyblue
Any Canadians going to Seattle show?
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I just went to stub hub and Stones tix are already for sale for Miami starting at $1100 apiece for side stadium seats near stage.
It's BS. They are simply front loading tix they don't even have yet and trying to get the suckers who panic to take the bait. They are owned by TM so really it's TM trying to take advantage of people even more than they normally do.
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I just went to stub hub and Stones tix are already for sale for Miami starting at $1100 apiece for side stadium seats near stage.
It's BS. They are simply front loading tix they don't even have yet and trying to get the suckers who panic to take the bait. They are owned by TM so really it's TM trying to take advantage of people even more than they normally do.
Stubhub IS NOT owned by Ticketmaster. Get your facts straight. They are a wholly owned subsidiary of EBay.
In many cases people selling the seats are corporate partners or people who have season tickets/luxury suites at these venues and are permitted to buy. They have bought seat licences and get all events.
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Paddy
I've never bought LD tickets directly, I've been lucky to meet kind folk from this site who had some on the day to spare, but I would like to go LD all the way this time. These tickets do not go onsale until the general sale is that correct? They are not available on the presale?
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babyblue
Any Canadians going to Seattle show?
Yep, going down from Vancouver.
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Keefy
Any word on ticket prices?
BV can we start a thread for this?
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Any word on ticket prices?
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Paddy
I've never bought LD tickets directly, I've been lucky to meet kind folk from this site who had some on the day to spare, but I would like to go LD all the way this time. These tickets do not go onsale until the general sale is that correct? They are not available on the presale?
General Sale, yes.
Only available through the official Rolling Stones site link.
Pre-register for code that will be emailed.
[www.rollingstones.com]
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babyblue
Any Canadians going to Seattle show?
Yep, going down from Vancouver.
Should be quite a few of us, even though it's midweek. When my friend & I went down for McCartney in Seattle in 2013, on a Friday, we crossed at a smaller border checkpoint (Aldergrove). When we told the guard what were going for, he said we were like the 100th vehicle crossing that day who were going to the show - and it was barely noon! Also Paul had just played in Vancouver about 7 months earlier, so I can't imagine how many Western Canadian Stones fans will show up after 12+ years.
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JN99
LD has been only so-so for me. Twice got nosebleeds, once got GA (Lucca, where probably 80-90% of all tix were GA), and once got decent side lower level (Vegas '16). I'm not willing to take nosebleeds, in fact tossed the second pair I got and bought pit tix instead. I simply don't enjoy the experience in really bad seats so tend to avoid LD now.
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MoreFastNumbers
I don't get why people think American stadiums are bigger concert venues than the European ones. Maybe the popular bird's eye view pictures during NFL games or the old '81 tour snapshots... Who knows?! But in fact the 2019 USA leg will be very similar to the European legs capacity-wise.
Let's take a look at some recent data of sold out concerts (U2 Joshua Tree Tour '17) with the same stage configurations in the exact same venues the Stones will play next year:
Hard Rock Stadium MIAMI, FL - 48,494
NRG Stadium HOUSTON, TX - 47,669
State Farm Stadium GLENDALE, AZ - 42,814
The Rose Bowl PASADENA, CA - 61,582
Levi’s Stadium SANTA CLARA, CA - 50,072
CenturyLink Field SEATTLE, WA - 57,009
FedExField WASHINGTON, DC - 49,827
Lincoln Financial Field PHILADELPHIA, PA - 56,570
Gillette Stadium FOXBOROUGH, MA - 55,231
MetLife Stadium EAST RUTHERFORD, NJ - 55,321
Soldier Field CHICAGO, IL - 52,539
Average capacity (11 out of the 14 future Stones venues): 52,466
Modern football stadiums are built mainly for weekly sport events not for occasional concerts.
Higher average ticket prices in stronger markets what will make the difference regarding revenues. Not higher averege capacity.
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bv
The smallest venue for the US 2019 tour is probably Jazz Fest
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TKinOH
Good stuff!
I saw one on Levi's Stadium's site, maybe on their social media account...
Always something to see the way Stones' gigs are celebrated... before, during and after.
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I don't get why people think American stadiums are bigger concert venues than the European ones. Maybe the popular bird's eye view pictures during NFL games or the old '81 tour snapshots... Who knows?! But in fact the 2019 USA leg will be very similar to the European legs capacity-wise.
Let's take a look at some recent data of sold out concerts (U2 Joshua Tree Tour '17) with the same stage configurations in the exact same venues the Stones will play next year:
Hard Rock Stadium MIAMI, FL - 48,494
NRG Stadium HOUSTON, TX - 47,669
State Farm Stadium GLENDALE, AZ - 42,814
The Rose Bowl PASADENA, CA - 61,582
Levi’s Stadium SANTA CLARA, CA - 50,072
CenturyLink Field SEATTLE, WA - 57,009
FedExField WASHINGTON, DC - 49,827
Lincoln Financial Field PHILADELPHIA, PA - 56,570
Gillette Stadium FOXBOROUGH, MA - 55,231
MetLife Stadium EAST RUTHERFORD, NJ - 55,321
Soldier Field CHICAGO, IL - 52,539
Average capacity (11 out of the 14 future Stones venues): 52,466
Modern football stadiums are built mainly for weekly sport events not for occasional concerts.
Higher average ticket prices in stronger markets what will make the difference regarding revenues. Not higher averege capacity.
I am 100% sure of the fact that stadiums in USA are way larger capacity than those found in Europe. I have spend days and weeks and years estimating capacity for Stones shows, it is a difficult task, but I am 100% sure there are many many larger stadiums in USA, including those The Rolling Stones will be performing at next spring/summer.
Just take a look at the following list, the world's largest stadiums:
List of stadiums by capacity
Of the top ten stadiums in the world 8 of 10 are in USA, all capacity more than 100,000 people, none of the top 10 stadiums are in Europe (the two others are in North Korea and Australia).
For the next ranked 11-20 in crowd size you find 5 out of 10 again from USA, all capacity more than 87,000, then the two largest in Europe show up : Camp Nou (never played by Stones) and Wembley stadium (new rebuilt stadium never played by Stones).
Typical stadiums for the Stones tour next year i.e. 2019, including the "smaller" Soldier Field and Gillette Stadium:
Venue / Sports capacity / Concert capacity (rs exact numbers)
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Rose Bowl 94,000 / 65,000 (rs: 60,000)
Metlife stadium 80,242 / 65,000
Soldier Field 61,500 / 50,000 (rs: 52,000 - 55,000)
Gillette Stadium 66,000 / 55,000
Please note that concert configurations in US American Football stadiums do typically allow at least 80% of the sports capacity for concerts, some times more. Soldier Field Chicago takes 61,500 for football and 55,000 for Stones concerts (real exact numbers from past shows).
Numbers from The Rolling Stones shows in Europe 2018:
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Olympiastadion, Berlin 74 475 / 67,295 (rs exact number)
St Mary's Stadium, Southampton 32,505 / 26,582 (rs exact number)
Ricoh Arena (stadium), Coventry 32,609 / 31,559 (rs exact number)
Mercedes-Benz Arena, Stuttgart 60,441 / 43,291 (rs exact number)
You will not find any venues during the 2019 USA tour with just 26,000 or 31,000 or even 43,000 people in the crowd, like we had in Europe this summmer. The smallest venue for the US 2019 tour is probably Jazz Fest, I don't know that one, or Gillette Stadium, which is "relatively small" in USA, still large as compared to European soccer stadiums.
A final note, in Europe you may use the rule of thumb taking away 25% to 30% of the sports capacity for concerts, then adding 10,000 or so for GA field standing, and you will getb the concert capacity for Stones shows. This will work for the stadiums mentioned above in Europe. However, american football has got wider, larger fields, as far as I know, soccer fields are smaller in size, and they may place chairs all over the large football field, for some reason chairs take up the same space as GA "people" space, due to fire and securioty regulations, this was something I learned in Shanghai, when the PIT was chairs only, and the capacity was exactly the same as at all other shows, where the PIT was always standing - I counted every chair in the pit in Shanghai...
Nothing wrong with large stadiums, they do allow for a great and large crowd, but except for Camp Neu Barcelona, and may be a few others like Maracana Rio de Janeiro, US football stadiums are among thelargest capacity in thde world, and I am sure they can accomodate at least 20% more people at the average Stones stadium show in USA 2019 as compared to Europe 2017/2018.
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Gaetzi
I'm almost embarrassed to say I paid something around $600 per ticket (with fees?) for good seats on the field in San Diego 2015. We were to the right of the walkway so still a good 30 rows back from the stage. I fear the good seats on this tour are going to be $700-800 plus fees