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rev20
1) wow LOL i have gotten exactly nowhere with the ultra-orthodox
2) my only hope is that the great bulk of silent readers are at least reserving
judgement about Mick's situation with his women, especially currently, because
it is a very serious situation, and that most of you out there, please,
are, and will be, paying attention to the evidence that has been and will be leaking.
3) the only person that Mick has been almost always honest with is himself.
that is his moral code. the only person that Keith has been seriously
dishonest with is himself. just like most humans. which is why we love
keith so much, he's way more like us.
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Hairball
Big thanks to Keith for saving the Stones, and also persuading Mick to do Blue and Lonesome.
I think it's safe to say that's another Keith version of History.
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Hairball
We know he didn't release the Red Devils material for some reason (except one song)
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rev20
the only person that Mick has been almost always honest with is himself.
that is his moral code. the only person that Keith has been seriously
dishonest with is himself. just like most humans. which is why we love
keith so much, he's way more like us.
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Rocky Dijon
I think I've probably said all I can on it. Of course not everyone will agree.
I do like the notion that I turned Keith's words into a fabricated fantasy. You're right, he doesn't always lie. Like when Muddy Waters stopped selling more records than Frank Sinatra and wasn't selling out the Hollywood Bowl any more, the Chess Brothers had him in overalls painting the ceiling at 2120 S. Michigan Avenue. That's probably pretty much the way it went down. It certainly makes for a good story and that is Keith's gift, I would never deny that.
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Hairball
We know he didn't release the Red Devils material for some reason (except one song)
Because a full-length release in that style would have been hopelessly overshadowed by the outcry, "It should have been a Stones album!"
Nonetheless, it is reassuring, given his ever-present penchant for chasing after the latest pop trends, that even when moonlighting away from his day job he still enjoys the blues.
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Rocky Dijon
I do hope you use your very evident gifts for a greater purpose than a bunch of septuagenarians so many of us pretend are still "boys."
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Hairball
As I said, some of what Keith says is BS, but that doesn't mean everything he says is constantly BS.
When you say things like: "Keith's version of events ALWAYS needs to be questioned" and "I refuse to see the world through Jane Rose-tinted glasses", it seems you're unwilling to ever give the man the benefit of the doubt, and everything he says should be mistrusted and/or is a flat out lie. I'm all for being skeptical (and maybe even cynical at times), but there comes a time where one might want accept some of these statements as truth and facts. For the record, I'm not speaking from the perspective of a Keith fanatic, and I know you're not a Keith hater, but surely not everything Keith says is fantasy and fiction (like the Muddy story you cited above).
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But Rocky, Talk is Cheap outselling Primitive Cool almost two to one was a disastrous commercial result for Mick and for Sony at that time. He was Mick Jagger! Keith was his sidekick, as far as most of the public was concerned, if they even knew who he was. Of course, a Jagger solo album was of less interest because there were already many, better Stones albums for people to buy if they wanted to hear him sing.
Agreed in as much as it gave Richard Branson the Stones as soon as the Sony deal was over. To be fair, it wasn't Sony until the STEEL WHEELS tour was well underway, it was CBS.
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Hairball
As I said, some of what Keith says is BS, but that doesn't mean everything he says is constantly BS.
When you say things like: "Keith's version of events ALWAYS needs to be questioned" and "I refuse to see the world through Jane Rose-tinted glasses", it seems you're unwilling to ever give the man the benefit of the doubt, and everything he says should be mistrusted and/or is a flat out lie. I'm all for being skeptical (and maybe even cynical at times), but there comes a time where one might want accept some of these statements as truth and facts. For the record, I'm not speaking from the perspective of a Keith fanatic, and I know you're not a Keith hater, but surely not everything Keith says is fantasy and fiction (like the Muddy story you cited above).
That's fair. And yes, my version of the Muddy story was intended to be ridiculous.
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rev20
(As some of you know, me and Keith used to see the same shrink at the
same time in NYC. keith only stuck with
her maybe 18 months, and transformed from a junky to an alky. i stuck
with her for ten years and cleaned up completely. she was so fcuking
tough. like a root canal every week. Jim Carroll could only last with
her two weeks. unfortunately.)
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i am however putting myself above Jim Carroll LOL
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Stoneage
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Mick... would put the record straight if he thought keith was lying about
the way things happened.
I know Keith exaggerates, especially when drunk and his imagination gets the better of him lol, but fundamentally he is an honest guy, and so is Mick.
1) wow LOL i have gotten exactly nowhere with the ultra-orthodox
2) my only hope is that the great bulk of silent readers are at least reserving
judgement about Mick's situation with his women, especially currently, because
it is a very serious situation, and that most of you out there, please,
are, and will be, paying attention to the evidence that has been and will be leaking.
3) the only person that Mick has been almost always honest with is himself.
that is his moral code. the only person that Keith has been seriously
dishonest with is himself. just like most humans. which is why we love
keith so much, he's way more like us.
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Bliss
>>she is obviously deserving of canonization
Yes indeed. Who knows what she might have achieved if she had conquered her demons and lived?
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35love
Rockman how’d you get that book? Says not released until November 2018,
hmm...
Here is a review of ‘Voices’
[www.theguardian.com]