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Keith's solo on SFTD for me now is sad - if he would just play it in the right key is all I ask. But Keith never really replicated his solo from YA YAS all these years.
You two may think that, but do not imagine or even pretend to speak for most Stones fans or 100s of thousands of concert attendees who are enjoying the great music at the shows being played right now. Based on the posted reviews FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY THERE, the band still plays very well.Quote
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I think at this point, if we're all being honest, we're largely willing to pay just to be in their physical presence for a few hours. Nothing wrong with that...it's truly a thrill to see icons like Mick Jagger and Keith Richards in the flesh in front of your eyes. It's kind of weird when you think about it, but that's the truth.
We're hearing (very) rough approximations of classic songs we all love, but the real thrill is seeing them all together again.
I think that is an accurate representation of the Stones fan now. Well said
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Keith's solo on SFTD for me now is sad - if he would just play it in the right key is all I ask. But Keith never really replicated his solo from YA YAS all these years.
Trust me, Keith could play it at the 12th root fret, notes straight out of the minor pentatonic scale like the original, and sound great.
He likes to noodle and change it up.
It's like you look at a picture of yourself from the 80's, would you still wear you're hair like that?
It's Rock and Roll and for the past decade, Keith is more into the "ROLL".
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It's like you look at a picture of yourself from the 80's, would you still wear you're hair like that?
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laertisflash
I'm with Leonioid. Basically I trust my ears. What I heard during the one (so far) gig of the current tour I have attended was pure, powerful rock sound.
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OpenG
The talk of Keith letting Ronnie do the solos - Keith is going down with his guitar - When was the last time he gave up a solo live that he always performed? - Way back when MT did the solo I think on Carol on the 72/73 tour.
Keith's solo on SFTD for me now is sad - if he would just play it in the right key
is all I ask. But Keith never really replicated his solo from YA YAS all these years.
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I think there are many moments live when Keith has surpassed YA YAS Sympathy solo imho.
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I think there are many moments live when Keith has surpassed YA YAS Sympathy solo imho.
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Is Keith using some kind of ''touch sensitive'' overdrive pedal here? I'm thinking about the bend he hits at 2:43. Sounds really cool,
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I think there are many moments live when Keith has surpassed YA YAS Sympathy solo imho.
[www.youtube.com]
Is Keith using some kind of ''touch sensitive'' overdrive pedal here? I'm thinking about the bend he hits at 2:43. Sounds really cool,
Not sure, but i wish he would pick up that guitar and set up again because it worked so well for him. Does a great GS with the same Guitar, OK its played a little too fast but Keith really became a great soloist at this point in time.
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I think there are many moments live when Keith has surpassed YA YAS Sympathy solo imho.
[www.youtube.com]
Is Keith using some kind of ''touch sensitive'' overdrive pedal here? I'm thinking about the bend he hits at 2:43. Sounds really cool,
Not sure, but i wish he would pick up that guitar and set up again because it worked so well for him. Does a great GS with the same Guitar, OK its played a little too fast but Keith really became a great soloist at this point in time.
[www.youtube.com]
His 89/90 sound with lots of delay would probably hide the mistakes a bit better. I mean the sound he's had since 2012 really highlights every mistake he does since it's so naked and trebly. I think the best would be if he went back to the ''clean'' sound he had on the licks-tour, then atleast the mistakes wouldn't hurt everyone's ears so much.
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I think there are many moments live when Keith has surpassed YA YAS Sympathy solo imho.
[www.youtube.com]
Is Keith using some kind of ''touch sensitive'' overdrive pedal here? I'm thinking about the bend he hits at 2:43. Sounds really cool,
Not sure, but i wish he would pick up that guitar and set up again because it worked so well for him. Does a great GS with the same Guitar, OK its played a little too fast but Keith really became a great soloist at this point in time.
[www.youtube.com]
His 89/90 sound with lots of delay would probably hide the mistakes a bit better. I mean the sound he's had since 2012 really highlights every mistake he does since it's so naked and trebly. I think the best would be if he went back to the ''clean'' sound he had on the licks-tour, then atleast the mistakes wouldn't hurt everyone's ears so much.
This is something i think about a lot. I wonder why Keith doesn't use a more forgiving sound with lots of delay. It's as if he doesn't go back to the hotel and ever watch youtube to see what he sounds like. I would imagine a close friend or one of his children would play something back to him, or at least mention that people are discussing his mistakes.
Perhaps no one wants to hurt his feelings, its strange because its as if he doesn't realize he is making these mistakes. If he new he would change his set up, or would he ? Perhaps he loves this sound, he loves being LOUD.
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I personally love this strong, clear and sharp sound of their guitars much much better than the 1990 sound.
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I personally love this strong, clear and sharp sound of their guitars much much better than the 1990 sound.
Yeah, they sound good but my favorite sound was 1972 when they used those Ampeg stacks.
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laertisflash
"I think the best would be if he went back to the ''clean'' sound he had on the licks-tour, then at least the mistakes wouldn't hurt everyone's ears so much"
What Blockbuster says is a stimulus for some thoughts and remembering...
Back in 2003 Keith did some mistakes which could be covered by no one and nothing - band's member or sound's type. And the reason was simple: He often screwed up the intro of Brown Sugar that was opener song, then. He messed up very badly the opening riffs at Stockholm Stadion, at Amsterdam Arena, at Stade de France and, if memory helps, in 3-4 additional cases. But we had NOT discussions about "Keith being unable to play guitar anymore", then.
On the current tour Keith botched once the intro of a song that is sporadically played, like "Beast Of Burden" and, for an week or so, we had serious bouts of hysteria here...
Back in 2003, in Prague, Keith started Midnight Rambler with the riff of Tumblin Dice. For everyone it was a funny fact. He just forgot the exact row of the songs.
Nothing less, nothing more. On the current tour, in Barcelona, he forgot that Mick had to introduced "Rocks Of" as the "vote/winner" song of the night and on IORR board some guys seemed prepared to convene an International Conference of Healthcare Professionals, so that we know how fast is Keith "losing his brain"...
Sometimes I think that many guys on the board burden Keith with their own agonies about life, aging, time going past in space.. Just a thought.
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laertisflash
Excellent post, HonkeyTonkFlash. Especially these phrases:
"Another thought is how the visuals influence the way we hear things. While watching images on the big screens, one may tend to hear a Keith that sounds as old as he looks. Ronnie, at time looks cadaverous. But then I closed my eyes and just listened...and then I found myself visualizing the Stones as they were much longer ago. When it comes to the sound, they're still the Stones even if Keith is no longer leading the charge with awesome riffage as in times past. Taking in the overall sound and imaging how much more exciting it is to actually be there, they're still the Stones and that's a pretty cool thing."
That's exactly what I wrote a few days ago: Don't judge the whole thing from the factor "how does Keith look and move". Judge it from how they really sound! And yes, they sound as you have described. And, believe me, anyone being there can understand how different, how "full", how stronger the real sound is, compered to the sound coming (?) from the YT clips.
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I can't hear a thing!
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keefriff99
I don't understand why it's so hard to express a nuanced view around here. You're either pigeon-holed into expressing one of two thoughts:
"Keith can't play anymore and is at death's door."
or
"Keith is ripping it up like it's 1989 again."
It seems those of us trying to express a middle opinion automatically get shoved to one or the other extremes by angry people who don't want to understand where we're coming from.