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DandelionPowderman
That's just not true. I mean, it's true that the digitalisation was beginning to make its mark by this album already. However, when listening to tracks like Terrifying, Blinded By Love, Almost Hear You Sigh, Continental Drift and Slipping Away, I hear great-sounding / engineered tracks, albeit some of them are produced questionably.
Agreed, listening to the "new" Rolling Stones (1989 to present) to me their most enjoyable stuff is the soft rock and the ballads. They do sound very well recorded and produced. A lot of the acoustic guitar work is very nice, clean and precisely recorded. A playlist of just the soft stuff and the ballads is quite enjoyable.
I can't say much about ABB though because I never really listened to it. And of course I join the SOL haters group.
I think the boys got bored with rock and roll or rock songs over the past three decades. They could never beat their earlier rock material anyway. So the essence of the latter-day Rolling Stones is all in the mellow stuff and that includes Keith's contributions. That's perfectly fine with me.
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Pecman
BTW.
Wasn't IORR recorded/engineered by Giorgio Moroder of the Disco Fame?
Now...was Jagger on to his talent a head of time or was it that Giorgio Moroder working with the Stones gave him a name and an avenue for success?
One thing I've noticed over the years...there are very little photo's that
exist of the IORR sessions.
I'm sure Rockman can pull a few but very little exist.
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shortfatfanny
OK - I need some help with this one:
from L to R: Keith, Mick, Stu, Charlie, ...and who's that holding the bass?
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and WTF is Mick J wearing?!
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treaclefingers
ER is one of the best 'sounding'...not sure I understand what is supposed to make it 'worst'? It sounds better than Some Girls.
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treaclefingers
Steel Wheels does suck.
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dmay
Please excuse my lack of knowledge here, but what is the difference between a producer on an album and the engineer? I would think the engineer follows the directions of the producer as to the sound/feel/style of the album in terms of what he/she - the engineer - is to do if mixing the tracks on an album is their primary function. What other functions does an album engineer do?
A producer has the "vision" for what they want the music to sound like, the engineer has to make it happen. Al Schmitt, the producer of Bob Dylan's last two albums had some interesting anecdotes about the recording techniques used with Dylan.
Interview with Al Schmitt and tour of Capitol Studios
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StonedRambler
I understand if someone finds Some Girls sounding bad. It has a lot of edgy high mids which can sound really nasty if you turn it up on bad speakers.
But for me that edgy, agressive sound is exactly what I love about Some Girls!
Always thought that it fits perfectly to the punk-rock-like style many of the songs have (just like the rough Exile-sound fits to those songs)
It sounds wild indeed and was the sound of the Stones' comeback after a few mediocre albums after exile. On my speakers, when turned up loud, Some Girls sounds almost like a live-PA sound.
Here's a very interesting article about the recording techniques of Some Girls
[www.soundonsound.com]
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DandelionPowderman
I can't understand that ER has no bottom. To me (judging by the vinyl record), it has more bottom than treble (the direct opposite of SG) + the best guitar sound ever recorded.
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kowalski
I think it really depends on what material you listen to these albums. For example the Japanese flat transfers SACD's sound great. I mean all of them: from Sticky Fingers to Dirty Work.
But if I had to pick the best sounding albums among them it would be Black and Blue, Emotional Rescue and Tattoo You. Some Girls should be included too but, not sure why, it has a compressed mastering on the SACD.
For the 60's and if listened on any release from the 2002 remasters, I would pick Aftermath and Beggars Banquet. Let It Bleed is quite alright but it doesn't sound as good as BB.
Finally for the digital era (from Steel Wheels), Bridges To Babylon has possibly the better sound overall. A Bigger Bang being possibly the worst engineered Stones album ever (though I got used to its sound with time...)
Blue and Lonesome, despite the compressed mastering, sounds surprisingly quite alright.
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Rockman
Yeah Kowalski ..... you've summed it up pretty well ....
I cant handle the SACD of Some Girls .,..
Bridges To Babylon is good but ya cant crank it very loud .....
As for Aftermath the MONO version boots me every time ....
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Rockman
Yeah I get ya Dandeeeee .... I agree
Although I do lurv the sound of Anybody Seen My Baby ...