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Be interesting to see how they promote this new album.
The Who have shown how to promote yourself in today's marketplace. Their tour was nowhere near as big as a Stones tour, but it was interesting and generated lots of press. Townshend and Daltrey did a ton of interviews. As usual, Pete writes the story for the reporter, but Daltrey has also been good this round. I saw them both interviewed where Roger talked openly about how difficult Pete's addictions were, while Pete squirmed. Roger got a lot of positive press showing up in Cincinnati for memorial services.
I would really like to see the Mick and Keith out there talking to various reporters without benefit of their handlers and really just be honest. I think it could see records.
They missed a chance this year with the 50-year anniversary of Altamont and Let it Bleed. Can you imagine Mick returning to Oakland and opening up that story. Or the band returning to Muscle Shoals and cutting a new track with cameras rolling. Gimme Shelter (the movie) was huge for their career and still generates interest in the mainstream.
I think if they opened themselves up a bit and stopped presenting themselves through carefully scripted concert movies they could generate more interest.
The Who album is COMPLETELY DOA, by the only yardstick that matters in music today, the streaming services. No one outside fandom cares. It will chart of course but the charts mean nothing cuz no one but old people buy physical music these days. it would be the same thing, unfortunately, with a new Stones album - great "press," maybe even appearances on NPR, CBS Sunday Morning, and SNL, and the album will come and go in a week or two. Mick and Keith know all this. This, alas, is the real "wall."
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Mmmmmmmm kina disagree.. The Stones are a 'rare' breed. The only one of their kind .. Blue & Lonesome was simply supposed to be an over the holiday treat / special. It was a covers album and it chalked up to #4 on the US charts (which is impressive by any act for a 'covers album'). Over-all it was the best selling album in the whole world for a few weeks. Additionally it maintained solid sales for an extended period after release. B & L was sort of / basically a 'surprise hit' and it received plenty of attention. Not only did it surprise us ...but it also surprised Universal .. >> AND The Stones.
I'm not saying they will get Taylor Swift or Ariana Grande numbers for petes sake (lol)... BUT.... the new album will do well and will sell better than any other act approaching their age. It will be a success .. and it will garnish adequate attention for them.
Oh, I agree that it would probably be a #1 album -- for the little that that means anymore. You know how pitiful Blue & Lonesome was on Spotify? Only 4 of its 12 tracks have more streams than the Alok remix of "Gotta Get a Grip"! Imagine that? A heavily promoted and critically lauded Stones album ... and 8 of its 12 tracks get smoked by one of the remixes of a throwaway unpromoted Jagger solo single.
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But it seems some fans want experimental/artificial technologically advanced sterile sounding contemporary/state of the art mumbo jumbo.
YES!!!
that is exactly what we want mr hb -- thx for articulating it so clearly!
Gimme some mumbo!
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actually Hairball I think I am beginning to care NOT. do they whatever they want or not, at this point I really got no expectations anymore. of course I will be thrilled to hear the new album if it ever comes out (I still love the band, too much interwined with my life to part) but up until then I am ready to consider the possibility that their end, as a recording band, is already behind. cheers
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That said, at this point I think a majority of fans would be pleased to have an original Stones album no matter what it sounds like.
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One wonders what exactly has kept Mr. Jagger in London for the past five weeks or so.
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Hairball
Don't give up hope - we all care about the Stones!
Wondering though if the December sessions yielded any progress (if there were any sessions at all).
Meanwhile Mick is partying up a storm celebrating with Boris Johnson...maybe he'll be inspired to write some new politically themed tunes?
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Don't give up hope - we all care about the Stones!
Wondering though if the December sessions yielded any progress (if there were any sessions at all).
Meanwhile Mick is partying up a storm celebrating with Boris Johnson...maybe he'll be inspired to write some new politically themed tunes?
ahahahahh Hairball, just saying they can do whatever and take all the time they want, I am not starving for a RS record anymore, maybe for the first time in my life when it will come out, if it will, I will be thrilled and hopefully the thrill will last much longer than ABB. The thrill of CEH or B&L will be enough to make me happy. cheers!
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actually Hairball I think I am beginning to care NOT. do they whatever they want or not, at this point I really got no expectations anymore. of course I will be thrilled to hear the new album if it ever comes out (I still love the band, too much interwined with my life to part) but up until then I am ready to consider the possibility that their end, as a recording band, is already behind. cheers
Don't give up hope - we all care about the Stones!
Wondering though if the December sessions yielded any progress (if there were any sessions at all).
Meanwhile Mick is partying up a storm celebrating with Boris Johnson...maybe he'll be inspired to write some new politically themed tunes?
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True but which album do you mean with 'CEH'?
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Lets hope they have been recording the new Bond theme song for Die another day, the movie is out in April and would fit with the us tour and new album...maybe we are just getting one song and an album in dec 2020
would Jagger have the balls to do bond as a solo tune!.....(because Keef didn't like it)
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Don't give up hope - we all care about the Stones!
Wondering though if the December sessions yielded any progress (if there were any sessions at all).
Meanwhile Mick is partying up a storm celebrating with Boris Johnson...maybe he'll be inspired to write some new politically themed tunes?
ahahahahh Hairball, just saying they can do whatever and take all the time they want, I am not starving for a RS record anymore, maybe for the first time in my life when it will come out, if it will, I will be thrilled and hopefully the thrill will last much longer than ABB. The thrill of CEH or B&L will be enough to make me happy. cheers!
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jlowe
I thought those on this site who are allegedly "in the know" were confident that December sessions would take place.
Fake News/Rumours?
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Hairball
Seems to me the new tour - unannounced or not- has more concrete info. than the supposed new Stones album.
BV has mentioned it more than once, and there's now info. that a stadium has supposedly been booked.
As for a new album? Nada.
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I think we should be proud of ourselves. 410 pages of absolutely zero information and still going strong!
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I'm not really sure why you'd ask for what people are hearing just to say it isn't concrete info.
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I think we should be proud of ourselves. 410 pages of absolutely zero information and still going strong!
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I think that the vagueness about the tour and the vagueness about the album (even the supposed December session) may just mean something. Call it wishful thinking but what else can you do than speculate.
This just made me think back to the days when one never knew anything about albums being recorded and tours weren't announced half a year or more in advance. Albums just popped up more or less suddenly, usually preceded about three or four weeks by a single, which usually was the first signal that something new was coming our way. Now, in the internet era, sometimes we know too much, it seems, so, when there isn't news to satisfy our curiosity, we become uneasy for the lack of apparent progress (yes I know it's about 14 years now since the last new record). The Stones may just have decided to not share too much information at this stage or it seems like that anyway. If so, what could that mean?