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Dude's got a 60 year career and your still slagging him for quality?....unfuckenbelievable.....what horseshit.
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Dude's got a 60 year career and your still slagging him for quality?....unfuckenbelievable.....what horseshit.
I had a feeling some might take that as a slam against Mick which it wasn't - it was a reply to keithsman who said he had "writers block".
Obviously Mick has written some genuinely great masterpieces throughout his 60 year career, but in the context of the latter/current era which is what we happen to be talking about (clearly), not so much IMO.
Getta Grip/England Lost...some like it and some thought it was crap - whatever, it's definitely not on the same level of quality of some of his greatest, and the general recepetion to them sort of spells that out.
Then again, you might think the quality of Getta Grip is equal to and on the same level as some of the greatest of his 60 year career, and more power to you. I just happen to think differently.
While he defnitely doesn't have writers block (40 demos, etc.), there seems to be something lacking in the quality of what he's written during the latter era - not a slag, just my opinion.
*EDIT: And to balance it out, the same issues with quality could be said about Keith in the latter/current era. Not only does he have a much slower pace with his writing these days, but I really don't think anything of this latter era compares with the masterpieces he wrote in his prime. That said, I thought Crossyed Heart was absolutely great and heartfelt, and gave promise as to what could be on a new Stones album, while at the same time some people thought that album was crappy and boring. Can't please all the people all the time, especially when there are so many variables when talking about the Rolling Stones. The bottom line is that both Mick and Keith, whether solo or with the Stones, have had their moments in the last few decades - but those moments are few and far between. Hoping the two can come together in what could ultimately be a perfect storm, and the final results will be absolute greatness.
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I take it in stride. There's people that don't think they're capable of anything worthwhile but still post. There's people that only like Keith. There's people that think Ronnie should write and sing. There's people that want another blues album or a country album or a soul album or a Christmas album. It takes all kinds to make a Stones board.
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You make a good point there keithsman.
But maybe....just maybe some of those 40 demos were deemed worthy by Keith and the rest, and will indeed be on the new Stones album?
Could have been it was just Getta Grip/England Lost that Keith had an issue with, and rightfully so as it turned out they really weren't Stones worthy.
Whatever the case, glad Mick released them on his own, rather than forcing the issue.
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I had a feeling some might take that as a slam against Mick which it wasn't - it was a reply to keithsman who said he had "writers block".
Obviously Mick has written some genuinely great masterpieces throughout his 60 year career, but in the context of the latter/current era which is what we happen to be talking about (clearly), not so much IMO.
Getta Grip/England Lost...some like it and some thought it was crap - whatever, it's definitely not on the same level of quality of some of his greatest, and the general recepetion to them sort of spells that out.
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I take it in stride. There's people that don't think they're capable of anything worthwhile but still post. There's people that only like Keith. There's people that think Ronnie should write and sing. There's people that want another blues album or a country album or a soul album or a Christmas album. It takes all kinds to make a Stones board.
Well there's your answer: just throw in all of the above genres (including a Christmas carol of course) and it just might satisfy everyone.
Definitely a Ronnie track or more than one is needed.
He managed to complete his last solo album in less than 6 months (according to the RS Database) so maybe his colleagues could learn something.
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I had a feeling some might take that as a slam against Mick which it wasn't - it was a reply to keithsman who said he had "writers block".
Obviously Mick has written some genuinely great masterpieces throughout his 60 year career, but in the context of the latter/current era which is what we happen to be talking about (clearly), not so much IMO.
Getta Grip/England Lost...some like it and some thought it was crap - whatever, it's definitely not on the same level of quality of some of his greatest, and the general recepetion to them sort of spells that out.
The general reception of new music from a 74+ old guy is the same for everyone, nowadays nothing sticks or nothing last, die hard fans are there during the first week and then no one else cares at all, no matter how good or bad the stuff is.
Macca's latest album went 1-8-55-72-146-out in the US chart and he was the most successful of the old acts during the last 4-5 years, he went #1, but after a month his album is dead and gone.
The Stones can release Brown Sugar now and no one would care except die hard fans, sad but true.
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I had a feeling some might take that as a slam against Mick which it wasn't - it was a reply to keithsman who said he had "writers block".
Obviously Mick has written some genuinely great masterpieces throughout his 60 year career, but in the context of the latter/current era which is what we happen to be talking about (clearly), not so much IMO.
Getta Grip/England Lost...some like it and some thought it was crap - whatever, it's definitely not on the same level of quality of some of his greatest, and the general recepetion to them sort of spells that out.
The general reception of new music from a 74+ old guy is the same for everyone, nowadays nothing sticks or nothing last, die hard fans are there during the first week and then no one else cares at all, no matter how good or bad the stuff is.
Macca's latest album went 1-8-55-72-146-out in the US chart and he was the most successful of the old acts during the last 4-5 years, he went #1, but after a month his album is dead and gone.
The Stones can release Brown Sugar now and no one would care except die hard fans, sad but true.
Point taken, and I'm sure Keith's suffered the same lukewarm reception from the general masses - maybe even worse than both Mick and Macca's releases?
I haven't looked at a billboard chart in a while, but the last time I did it was saturated with Drake and the like - hardly anybody cares about the old farts anymore!
Well then...how about we look at the general reception to Getta Grip/England Lost strictly amongst the diehards here on IORR.
Not based on any scientific data ha, but it's my estimation that two out of ten thought it was good, three out of ten were indifferent, and five out of ten thought it was complete trash.
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I had a feeling some might take that as a slam against Mick which it wasn't - it was a reply to keithsman who said he had "writers block".
Obviously Mick has written some genuinely great masterpieces throughout his 60 year career, but in the context of the latter/current era which is what we happen to be talking about (clearly), not so much IMO.
Getta Grip/England Lost...some like it and some thought it was crap - whatever, it's definitely not on the same level of quality of some of his greatest, and the general recepetion to them sort of spells that out.
The general reception of new music from a 74+ old guy is the same for everyone, nowadays nothing sticks or nothing last, die hard fans are there during the first week and then no one else cares at all, no matter how good or bad the stuff is.
Macca's latest album went 1-8-55-72-146-out in the US chart and he was the most successful of the old acts during the last 4-5 years, he went #1, but after a month his album is dead and gone.
The Stones can release Brown Sugar now and no one would care except die hard fans, sad but true.
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I had a feeling some might take that as a slam against Mick which it wasn't - it was a reply to keithsman who said he had "writers block".
Obviously Mick has written some genuinely great masterpieces throughout his 60 year career, but in the context of the latter/current era which is what we happen to be talking about (clearly), not so much IMO.
Getta Grip/England Lost...some like it and some thought it was crap - whatever, it's definitely not on the same level of quality of some of his greatest, and the general recepetion to them sort of spells that out.
The general reception of new music from a 74+ old guy is the same for everyone, nowadays nothing sticks or nothing last, die hard fans are there during the first week and then no one else cares at all, no matter how good or bad the stuff is.
Macca's latest album went 1-8-55-72-146-out in the US chart and he was the most successful of the old acts during the last 4-5 years, he went #1, but after a month his album is dead and gone.
The Stones can release Brown Sugar now and no one would care except die hard fans, sad but true.
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I had a feeling some might take that as a slam against Mick which it wasn't - it was a reply to keithsman who said he had "writers block".
Obviously Mick has written some genuinely great masterpieces throughout his 60 year career, but in the context of the latter/current era which is what we happen to be talking about (clearly), not so much IMO.
Getta Grip/England Lost...some like it and some thought it was crap - whatever, it's definitely not on the same level of quality of some of his greatest, and the general recepetion to them sort of spells that out.
The general reception of new music from a 74+ old guy is the same for everyone, nowadays nothing sticks or nothing last, die hard fans are there during the first week and then no one else cares at all, no matter how good or bad the stuff is.
Macca's latest album went 1-8-55-72-146-out in the US chart and he was the most successful of the old acts during the last 4-5 years, he went #1, but after a month his album is dead and gone.
The Stones can release Brown Sugar now and no one would care except die hard fans, sad but true.
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georgelicks echoes the theory of rock as dead
here's a recent article that had some good points though it is written in the "vice" style that is: you cant be smart if you have 2 lines without a punch
[noisey.vice.com]
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I had a feeling some might take that as a slam against Mick which it wasn't - it was a reply to keithsman who said he had "writers block".
Obviously Mick has written some genuinely great masterpieces throughout his 60 year career, but in the context of the latter/current era which is what we happen to be talking about (clearly), not so much IMO.
Getta Grip/England Lost...some like it and some thought it was crap - whatever, it's definitely not on the same level of quality of some of his greatest, and the general recepetion to them sort of spells that out.
The general reception of new music from a 74+ old guy is the same for everyone, nowadays nothing sticks or nothing last, die hard fans are there during the first week and then no one else cares at all, no matter how good or bad the stuff is.
Macca's latest album went 1-8-55-72-146-out in the US chart and he was the most successful of the old acts during the last 4-5 years, he went #1, but after a month his album is dead and gone.
The Stones can release Brown Sugar now and no one would care except die hard fans, sad but true.
What can you expect from the public, the Stones have not offered one single album of originals in nearly 14 years. 14 years was the time between 1964 to 1978, a span that included all the Stones best quality and quantity of work.
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I had a feeling some might take that as a slam against Mick which it wasn't - it was a reply to keithsman who said he had "writers block".
Obviously Mick has written some genuinely great masterpieces throughout his 60 year career, but in the context of the latter/current era which is what we happen to be talking about (clearly), not so much IMO.
Getta Grip/England Lost...some like it and some thought it was crap - whatever, it's definitely not on the same level of quality of some of his greatest, and the general recepetion to them sort of spells that out.
The general reception of new music from a 74+ old guy is the same for everyone, nowadays nothing sticks or nothing last, die hard fans are there during the first week and then no one else cares at all, no matter how good or bad the stuff is.
Macca's latest album went 1-8-55-72-146-out in the US chart and he was the most successful of the old acts during the last 4-5 years, he went #1, but after a month his album is dead and gone.
The Stones can release Brown Sugar now and no one would care except die hard fans, sad but true.
What can you expect from the public, the Stones have not offered one single album of originals in nearly 14 years. 14 years was the time between 1964 to 1978, a span that included all the Stones best quality and quantity of work.
That's sort of staggering when you stop to think about it.
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You make a good point there keithsman.
But maybe....just maybe some of those 40 demos were deemed worthy by Keith and the rest, and will indeed be on the new Stones album?
Could have been it was just Getta Grip/England Lost that Keith had an issue with, and rightfully so as it turned out they really weren't Stones worthy.
Whatever the case, glad Mick released them on his own, rather than forcing the issue.
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Ian - do you not think I read this thread daily and know every single detail regarding the plans for an album and tour?
Why would I not be happy?
And who says I'm skeptical?
I think your imagination is getting the best of you as you're attempting to draw conclusions that don't exist.
Ian - you need to Getta Grip!!!!
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Ian - do you not think I read this thread daily and know every single detail regarding the plans for an album and tour?
Why would I not be happy?
And who says I'm skeptical?
I think your imagination is getting the best of you as you're attempting to draw conclusions that don't exist.
Ian - you need to Getta Grip!!!!
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Lol ... Well I thought perhaps you were skeptical because I commented / directly replied to one of your earlier comments as soon as this news broke and you never responded is all .. Was certainly no biggy .. I just thought perhaps you were not buying it or so convinced.
Not a big deal .. Rock onward.
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It seems they will do another studio effort this year. Aiming for a spring release, before the North America tour 2019.
Word on Universal is about an early single release, maybe late January or February, then 2 more singles in April/May and the full album in late May or early June.
Thanks for the updates bv and georgelicks!
Wow...for once in this thread I'm left speechless...almost!
The uncertainty is almost about to become a reality...hopefully!!
New album + new tour = happy days are here again for Stones fans!!!
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Ian - do you not think I read this thread daily and know every single detail regarding the plans for an album and tour?
Why would I not be happy?
And who says I'm skeptical?
I think your imagination is getting the best of you as you're attempting to draw conclusions that don't exist.
Ian - you need to Getta Grip!!!!
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Lol ... Well I thought perhaps you were skeptical because I commented / directly replied to one of your earlier comments as soon as this news broke and you never responded is all .. Was certainly no biggy .. I just thought perhaps you were not buying it or so convinced.
Not a big deal .. Rock onward.
Well there will always be a bit of skepticism as I've learned not to judge a book before I've read it, and in the case of this album not to judge it before it's even released!
But to clue you in on how I feel, here's what I wrote just three days ago in this very thread:Quote
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It seems they will do another studio effort this year. Aiming for a spring release, before the North America tour 2019.
Word on Universal is about an early single release, maybe late January or February, then 2 more singles in April/May and the full album in late May or early June.
Thanks for the updates bv and georgelicks!
Wow...for once in this thread I'm left speechless...almost!
The uncertainty is almost about to become a reality...hopefully!!
New album + new tour = happy days are here again for Stones fans!!!
And maybe you should peruse the tour thread where much of my focus has been recently - there's lots of happiness and excitement all over the place!
Come on Ian, I know it's been a long time since a new album and we've had our fun in this thread the last couple of years, but now that things are starting to get real - don't get weird on me now!!!
It's almost time for celebration, not time for psychosis!!!
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….14 years …
wow amazing patience or maybe we are amazing patients ????????